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What is this?

  • 31-01-2012 11:27am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,344 ✭✭✭


    Alright, i think this is the right place to post this, can anyone tell me what this is?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭xflyer


    Mason's apron I would guess, there's a clue in the picture? Now to google that!

    Edit: One minute later, Yup!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,344 ✭✭✭Is mise le key


    xflyer wrote: »
    Mason's apron I would guess, there's a clue in the picture? Now to google that!

    Edit: One minute later, Yup!

    Correct, but it is remarkably similar to this which is what struck me,

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Jonny7


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,344 ✭✭✭Is mise le key


    Jonny7 wrote: »
    what-you-did-there-i-see-it.thumbnail.jpg

    :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 267 ✭✭jargon buster


    So a Masons apron looks like an envelope.
    Your point being?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,344 ✭✭✭Is mise le key


    So a Masons apron looks like an envelope.
    Your point being?

    No, it looks remarkably like Googles choice of style of enevelope, here are what you get on most other styles when you look,

    email.png

    Email-envelope-icon-300x236.jpg

    Now here is another graphic from googles business app for email,

    190706.jpg

    Now, the significance of the letter G in masonry, beside the enevelope which is styled remarkably similar to a masons apron, just struck me as being very coincidental.


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    So are you really wondering why Google Mail and the Masons would use a stylised M in stuff?

    But then the Google mail symbol doesn't look like the mason's apron as it has additional lines the apron does not have.

    So what exactly is the conspiracy here?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,344 ✭✭✭Is mise le key


    King Mob wrote: »
    So are you really wondering why Google Mail and the Masons would use a stylised M in stuff?

    But then the Google mail symbol doesn't look like the mason's apron as it has additional lines the apron does not have.

    So what exactly is the conspiracy here?

    I am meerly pointing out some extremely close similarities & coincidences,

    Is it a conspiracy?

    Or, is it a theory?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 267 ✭✭jargon buster


    Is it a conspiracy?

    Or, is it a theory?
    No, its a coincidence. :rolleyes:


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I am meerly pointing out some extremely close similarities & coincidences,

    Is it a conspiracy?

    Or, is it a theory?

    But you also seem to be ignoring the differences.
    And you are implying something more sinister than the obvious reason for the similarities. But but I think you know how silly that actually is, hence why you are not elaborating.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    Oh, lord.:D
    Do you think maybe the big red m stands for mail? The fact that it also looks like an envelope....i believe that's known as graphic design.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,344 ✭✭✭Is mise le key


    This is great stuff, calm down folks, lets not get all excited,

    I am pointing out something that is similar, i then pointed out a second graphic that coincidentally both images contained individualy are very masonic & that the rest of the imagery of google mail are dropped from & it is specifically for business (which is what a lot of masons will tell you goes on in local lodges around the country)

    I never mentioned the word sinister, i never mentioned the word conspiracy, i am asking what people think the first pic looks like & subsequently the second, if the first pic upon seeing it to you says masons apron, grand. If it says google mail then you just seen the similarity i noticed myself, grand.

    Take from it what you will but you cannot say they are not remarkabley similar.

    As for the differences, there are two lines that ascend to the middle point, one might say it is not unusual for a masonic apron to have emblems on the lower half of the apron that denote something, seeing as it is a secret society (not conspiracy, just a fact) one would wonder what the two striking lines stand for on the lower half, if it was an apron that is:D

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  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    This is great stuff, calm down folks, lets not get all excited,

    I am pointing out something that is similar, i then pointed out a second graphic that coincidentally both images contained individualy are very masonic & that the rest of the imagery of google mail are dropped from & it is specifically for business (which is what a lot of masons will tell you goes on in local lodges around the country)

    I never mentioned the word sinister, i never mentioned the word conspiracy, i am asking what people think the first pic looks like & subsequently the second, if the first pic upon seeing it to you says masons apron, grand. If it says google mail then you just seen the similarity i noticed myself, grand.

    Take from it what you will but you cannot say they are not remarkabley similar.

    As for the differences, there are two lines that ascend to the middle point, one might say it is not unusual for a masonic apron to have emblems on the lower half of the apron that denote something, seeing as it is a secret society (not conspiracy, just a fact) one would wonder what the two striking lines stand for on the lower half, if it was an apron that is:D

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    So you're not saying it's a conspiracy, but you posted it on a conspiracy forum?
    And you're just asking what the first image is even though you knew what it was?
    And then you are refusing to elaborate on what exactly your point is.

    Firstly, the google mail symbol only looks superficially like the apron. Specifically it has extra lines that the apron does not and the apron has thick borders that the mail symbol does not. Also the apron is square while the symbol is rectangular.
    Now if we are to believe that masons care so much about symbols, then these differences would be vital. But you are saying we should ignore these differences and only focus on the similarity, which amounts to a red M.

    So why exactly is coincidence not a satisfactory explanation?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,344 ✭✭✭Is mise le key


    King Mob wrote: »
    So you're not saying it's a conspiracy, but you posted it on a conspiracy forum?

    Its a conspiracy THEORY forum.

    The theory being that the similarities seems to very very close to be accidental.

    King Mob wrote: »
    So why exactly is coincidence not a satisfactory explanation?

    I never said it wasnt, i am again simply asking if you see the similarities & think it is all accidental? Particularly the second graphic & the significance of the capital G in masonry and all other letters dropped off the logo for business users app?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Jonny7


    Apparently they designed it the night before launch too..

    http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Gmail-Logo-Font-Deisnger-Dennis-Hwang-Google-Doodles-Artist,news-14027.html
    You might see it every day but have you ever really looked at it?


    Zoom

    We've probably all left things to the last second, only to rush out a solution to whatever task we had been assigned with varying degrees of success. However, it might surprise you that the Gmail logo is the perfect example of how leaving things to the last minute doesn't have to mean a sloppy, terrible result. In fact, sometimes the rushed solution is good enough to last forever. You were likely also oblivious to the fact that the logo contains two completely different fonts.

    The Verge reports that Google Product Designer Kevin Fox recently took to Quora to answer the question, "Who designed the Google logo?" His response revealed the two facts above, along with the fact that the logo was designed by Dennis Hwang, who at the time was doing almost all of the Google Doodles, as well as a fair amount of logos.

    "The logo was designed literally the night before the product launched. We were up very late and Sergey and I went down to his cube to watch him make it," he said. "The initial version used the same font as the Google logo (Catull), but Catull has a very awkward 'a', so Dennis decided to use Catull for the 'G' to tie the brand to Google, then cast the others in a cleaner sans-serif (Myriad Pro, if I recall correctly)."

    There you have it.


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Its a conspiracy THEORY forum.

    The theory being that the similarities seems to very very close to be accidental.
    But you said it's not a Conspiracy.

    So really it's just a weird thing, but you realise that there's no particular reason behind it other than the letter M.
    I never said it wasnt, i am again simply asking if you see the similarities & think it is all accidental?
    But again you are ignoring all of the differences I just pointed out.
    Why, if we are to assume your theory are these quite significant differences there?
    Why since masons are supposed to be all about symbolism, care enough to sneak their symbol into Google mail but then seemingly not care that the symbol is changed in significant ways?
    Particularly the second graphic & the significance of the capital G in masonry and all other letters dropped off the logo for business users app?
    And again, you are asking a very obvious question: why does Google use a capital G for a symbol that must be displayed in a small space that also must clearly identify that particular app?

    And again, in freemasonry, why would they have the letter G next to a wrong symbol for their apron?

    Why do any of this in the first place?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 64 ✭✭tico1300


    it's a masonic royal arch apron


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,344 ✭✭✭Is mise le key


    Jonny7 wrote: »
    Apparently they designed it the night before launch too..

    http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Gmail-Logo-Font-Deisnger-Dennis-Hwang-Google-Doodles-Artist,news-14027.html

    (Myriad Pro, if I recall correctly)."

    That is a remarkable coincidence also, the type phase mentioned there is an anagram of,

    Pyramid ro

    The pyramid being of significance in masonry & Ro being the smallest egyptian measurable unit of data.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 462 ✭✭clever_name


    That is a remarkable coincidence also, the type phase mentioned there is an anagram of,

    Pyramid ro

    The pyramid being of significance in masonry & Ro being the smallest egyptian measurable unit of data.

    Speaking of coincidence the type phase mentioned there is also an anagram of:

    Army Drop I
    Airdrop My

    Perhaps the symbol is about military airdrops?

    Then again its also an anagram of:

    Mad Priory & Dam Priory

    Could it be an anti monastery stance being taken by Gmail?

    Or maybe I'm reading too much into things...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭stuar


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    It does look like a royal arch masons apron with a compass, notice the narrowing of the lines, like a compass and or pyramid, it could be all coincidence.

    Before gmail there were ordinary post men.
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  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    But none of those aprons look exactly like the gmail logo.

    None of them are rectangular and none have the additional lines.
    All of them have borders thicker than the middle line and they all have symbols in the white spaces.

    Why are you guys ignoring these differences?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭stuar


    King Mob wrote: »
    But none of those aprons look exactly like the gmail logo.

    None of them are rectangular and none have the additional lines.
    All of them have borders thicker than the middle line and they all have symbols in the white spaces.

    Why are you guys ignoring these differences?

    Because they are differences, how many variations of the one style do you see?, so why not one with a compass/pyramid coming from the centre of the "square" of the letter M.
    But could be all just coincidence.

    Any masons reading this, who is the lord these freemasons are referring to?, and why are they performing a private pantomime?
    Holy%20Royal%20Arch%20Mason%20cast%20in%20Evanston%2020070217%20thumb.jpg

    Most Excellent
    Grand High Priest

    Medford J. Campbell, Jr

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    What does a high priest do?


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    stuar wrote: »
    Because they are differences, how many variations of the one style do you see?, so why not one with a compass/pyramid coming from the centre of the "square" of the letter M.
    But could be all just coincidence.
    Because none of the differences are consistent with what you are showing with mason's aprons. And none of the variations are consistent with the logo.
    All of the mason's aprons shown here are square, the Gmail logo is not.
    All of the mason's aprons have thick borders which have the same thickness on the top on bottom but are thicker than the middle triangle section, which is not the case in the logo.
    All of the mason's aprons have something in the top section of white space and most of the others have detailed symbols in the lower one, not just lines.

    If you are just going to ignore points like this, then pretty much anything is a masonic symbol.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,913 ✭✭✭Absolam


    stuar wrote: »
    Any masons reading this, who is the lord these freemasons are referring to?]
    Maybe it's the guy in the middle? Or, maybe, they're a Christian group?
    stuar wrote: »
    , and why are they performing a private pantomime?
    Maybe they're into amatuer dramatics? Sone people do conspiracy theories, some people do panto. Different strokes 'n all...
    stuar wrote: »
    What does a high priest do?
    Covers for the Excellent Grand High Priest on his day off?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,825 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    The logo is similar to the Mason's apron.

    It's that simple, as for conslusively proving Google are attempting to subvert their users by using masonic symbology in their designs is another thing altogether, although I would not join in with JK in saying that it can be disproven because the thickness of the lines etc doesn't match exactly:rolleyes:

    Glazers Out!



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