5D in toy camera mode!

BlastedGlute

Me and a buddy were meeting up for a few snaps in town and he pulls this out of the bag!! Some sample images on my last blog post!

http://paulwilsonphotography.wordpress.com/

Bit of a cheap attempt to try and drive people to your blog, no?

Seems a bit pointless to me. It's a tinted plastic cover, and it can't focus. Seems like the outcome is going to be quite predictable (an out of focus photo with a pink hue).


Maybe I'm being overly negative, but I just don't understand the thought behind it. Same effect could be achieved in post in 30 seconds, surely?

BlastedGlute

That's about the snottiness response I've ever had the displeasure of absorbing on boards.

Seeing as though any effect is possible for a pro in post, I wonder why anyone bothers to make any effort to do anything remotely different with their hobby. Perhaps we should buy iPhones and instagram and let the app do it for us.

Or maybe we just love photography and want to try something different. And seeing as this was posted in the workshop sub forum maybe some people would like to discuss similar mods it would seem like a pro active subject.

Instead you choose to berate the post on the grounds of it being some kind of insidious attempt for me to force people to look at my other stuff. Oohhh how evil, I practically invented SOPA and celebrities. People post their blogs, flikrs,facebooks and all kinds of sites around here.

If your not interested, don't look. Your love for photography is clearly formulated around the end image and not the joy and passion that might be involved in the capture.

dirtyghettokid

looks like a bit of craic! i recently got a plastic holga lens for my D80.


view thru by jbredrebel, on Flickr

i think it's cool to be able to sort of re-create plastic/old/fun camera effects with a DSLR at the shooting time rather than post processing.

BlastedGlute

BlastedGlute wrote: »

That's about the snottiness response I've ever had the displeasure of absorbing on boards.

Seeing as though any effect is possible for a pro in post, I wonder why anyone bothers to make any effort to do anything remotely different with their hobby. Perhaps we should buy iPhones and instagram and let the app do it for us.

Or maybe we just love photography and want to try something different. And seeing as this was posted in the workshop sub forum maybe some people would like to discuss similar mods it would seem like a pro active subject.

Instead you choose to berate the post on the grounds of it being some kind of insidious attempt for me to force people to look at my other stuff. Oohhh how evil, I practically invented SOPA and celebrities. People post their blogs, flikrs,facebooks and all kinds of sites around here.

If your not interested, don't look. Your love for photography is clearly formulated around the end image and not the joy and passion that might be involved in the capture.

You're easily offended.

Clearly you're trying to drive traffic to your blog. You're not new here, and you know as well as the next person that it's always suggested and recommended that you post stuff on boards (and if there are a lot of images, post a small few here and then if people are interested they'll continue on to the site linked to). A thread is usually supposed to contain a viewpoint or opinion, too.

You don't even link to the actual post with the images, just your blog in general, with a list of blog posts. You've clearly put your post together with the intention of people having to follow a URL to an external site. There's no reason why you couldn't have posted the 'results' here, especially considering there aren't many photos and they're relatively small.


Also, I'm not berating. I felt my post was a genuine response. I state that I don't understand the point in taking a 5D and putting a colour tint in front of the sensor. You get the same effect every time.

Buying an iPhone and using instagram (which I'm not familiar with and don't have an iPhone), I assume this gives you a 'weird 'n' wacky' result every time? Would that not be the purpose of a 'toy' camera? That the results will be inconsistent and unique every time you use it? So you've actually got a reason to want to see the results?

Using a 5D with a pink tint over the sensor is about the same as using any lens and applying a pink tint in post processing. You know what it's going to look like before you do it. I don't understand the 'fun' in that. Perhaps you could explain that to me rather than calling me 'snotty'?


My sincere apologies for having a differing viewpoint.

kelly1

arguments aside, I'd love to try pin-hole photography. Apparently tinfoil is very good because you can make a very clean hole in it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ueyQtu0ouk

EDIT: Actually, I think I'll try a Holga plastic lens instead

magicbastarder

if you try tin foil, the thing i found best to punch a hole in the foil is a bristle from a wire brush of the type used to clean barbecues. they're much thinner than your average pin - which are too big.

DaireQuinlan

kelly1 wrote: »

arguments aside, I'd love to try pin-hole photography. Apparently tinfoil is very good because you can make a very clean hole in it.

Problem with pinhole photography is that it gets crappier and crappier the smaller the format due to diffraction effects (there's a fixed baseline here, in the wavelength of light, so it's not all relative). APS sized pinhole stuff looks pretty poor. 35mm is hardly better. Up around the 6x6cm or 4x5 inch mark it starts looking ok but for best effect, and the mostest fun, you're better off doing up your own gigantic pinhole camera and shooting 8x10 inch photo paper in it. For extra brownie points shoot the positive stuff from ilford for one-off 8x10 prints

kelly1

Daire, good point about the diffraction.

pete4130

KKV,

I think your missing the point entirely. It's about having fun and experimenting with something new (to you) and seeing the results.

Buying an iphone with an instagram app is an artificial means to get "weird & wacky" results. Using a home made pinhole contraption on a 5D, or any camera is retracing the steps of photographic pioneers using pinhole photography , albeit on a more modern medium.
The results wont be the same everytime as there is no real way to expose accurately, the focus is affected by how small and how "clean" the pinhole is.

Anything can be achieved in post processing and like has already been said, why bother doing anything different if it can be done in PP? I remember the now permabanned user TheCageyOne commenting how stupid it was for anyone to have or buy a fisheye lens when the same "effect" can be achieved in post processing.

I mean why bother shooting film when grain can be added in PP? Black and white feel might seem pointless as images can be made B&W in post processing, add some fake grain in there while were at it.


I've made my own pinhole attachments for DSLR's, I've shot with colour infra red slide film (now discontinued) and even made my own pinhole cameras from toilet roll tubes and matchboxes. The same effect can be achieved in PP but where the hell is the fun in that?

kelly1

Holga lens ordered! Will post some shots after it arrives

marknine

Fantastic idea. I would love to see the photos in black & white though. but thats just my taste. Keep up the good work.

BlastedGlute wrote: »

Me and a buddy were meeting up for a few snaps in town and he pulls this out of the bag!! Some sample images on my last blog post!

http://paulwilsonphotography.wordpress.com/

pete4130

Somewhere. maybe on my PC back in Ireland. I'll search my gmail. they might be in there somewhere?

They were really basic but lots of fun!

pete4130

Not on this computer

I might make some more though!?!?

magicbastarder

i had quite visible diffraction patterns on the pinhole i tried on my olympus 35mm SLR.
whether or not you like diffraction patterns is another matter; they're more visible on a sunny day or with point light sources.

BlastedGlute

Please do because Peter, my friend who made that one, is showing me how to throw one together for myself and ill be posting up some examples and what have you. But I'd be seriously interested to see the results from a real homemade box camera from a boardsie!

DaireQuinlan

BlastedGlute wrote: »

Please do because Peter, my friend who made that one, is showing me how to throw one together for myself and ill be posting up some examples and what have you. But I'd be seriously interested to see the results from a real homemade box camera from a boardsie!

ok so it wasn't a PINHOLE camera, but it is a real homemade box camera :-)

BlastedGlute

Wow!! :O

I can certainly say I was not expecting something of that calibre to be produced by a home brew camera!! Have you got some plans or tutorials for that kind of thing?? Have you got a picture of it even??

Mind blowing.

And just to clear something up. The only reason I linked to my blog, was that the images contained on it are in fact not my own. Anyone who read the single paragraph I took the time to compose, would see that my friend took those shots. He gave me permission to post them to my blog but not to distribute them around the net, which would include a comment post on boards.

Apologies for any inconvenience or offence this may have caused.

DaireQuinlan

is a picture of the camera. It's a little more sophisticated than your average pinhole, in that it's got a shutter, and a focusing system and, um, a lens, but it does admirably illustrate the point that at the end of the day your camera body is ultimately just a light tight box :-)

Also experimented with exposing R4 paper in the camera:


And R4 reversal processing so I could get a straight 8x10 print from the camera (this didn't go so well)



Been a while since I did these, but I never miss a chance to whore them out

smash

Deleted User wrote: »

Bit of a cheap attempt to try and drive people to your blog, no?

I did find that quite amusing coming from someone with such a huge signature linking to their own website

Borderfox

Keep it on topic or else

smash

Borderfox wrote: »

Keep it on topic or else

Ok ok

I do want to make a pinhole camera myself, I think my son would get a kick out of it. His bedroom is in the attic and the window looks over the big and little sugar loaf so I think a long exposure would be kinda cool.

BlastedGlute

BlastedGlute wrote: »

single paragraph I took the time to compose, would see that my friend took those shots. He gave me permission to post them to my blog but not to distribute them around the net, which would include a comment post on boards.

To be fair, two sentences is hardly a paragraph. In a paragraph you could've elaborated on what you thought of the technique, asked if others had tried it, if there were other ways to do it, asked about products or tips relating to it, if there's a downside or possible damage to the camera body, or if a full frame is necessary or asked if others had advice on it.

Your friend is also very unique with his copyright. Not a bother with you putting it on your site, and feel free to link to it, but don't 'distribute them around the net'. Strange fellow.



Look, ranting aside, clearly I'm alone here, and others obviously have no issue or such with your opening post, so maybe I'm over reacting and perhaps unintentionally "trolling" your thread (seen as people love that term so much). So apologies if I've riled you up over it or caused offence.

That said, I still don't really see the point in it. Maybe I'm not the most artistic person in the world or have a desire to try new techniques or such, but I don't think it's something I'd bother with.

Daire's is pretty cool, I think, though, as he has something that's fairly unique. Well, okay, a camera isn't unique and they exist in many forms, but what I mean is it looks like he has taken the time to build an actual camera from the ground up on his own time, and understands the 'technology' enough to be able to create usable images with it, and as he says, it even has the ability to focus and a functioning shutter.


I think that's pretty inspiring. A piece of pink plastic doesn't really excite me.

smash wrote: »

I did find that quite amusing coming from someone with such a huge signature linking to their own website

Fair point, but it's quite clear to see what you'll be clicking into Besides, it's only marginally bigger than most Pix.ie signatures anyway, from what I can see.


Anyway, to prevent further disruption, I won't post on this thread anymore, and I'll leave ye be.


EDIT: only seen Borderfox's comment after posting my own.

DaireQuinlan

Deleted User wrote: »

Daire's is pretty cool, I think, though, as he has something that's fairly unique. Well, okay, a camera isn't unique and they exist in many forms, but what I mean is it looks like he has taken the time to build an actual camera from the ground up on his own time, and understands the 'technology' enough to be able to create usable images with it, and as he says, it even has the ability to focus and a functioning shutter.


I think that's pretty inspiring. A piece of pink plastic doesn't really excite me.

It's a process though. I didn't just sit down one day and decide to toss my DSLR* to one side and build an 8x10" sliding box camera and shoot RA4 paper negatives and try to reversal process them in expired C41 chemicals. I started off doing something similar, sticking vintage lenses in homemade bellows on the front of one of my nikon bodies. Then shooting ancient cameras, and then messing around with paper negatives and medium format and then... and then...
Everything you do is valuable in and of itself, but also potentially opens up a wealth of further experimentation. Plus, it's fun and interesting We are, for the most part, hobbyists here, so that's the most important thing of all.


*I actually don't own a DSLR but you take my point.

BlastedGlute

I won't post on this thread anymore, and I'll leave ye be.

Please!!