2 point mini roundabouts

Chris_Heilong

when approaching a mini roundabout and you want to go straight you just pass it with out indicating but my question is when approaching a 2 exit mini roundabout do you indicate as in theory you are leaving at the first exit even though you are driving straight trough. I have attached a diagram to make the question more clear.

kingtut

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

when approaching a mini roundabout and you want to go straight you just pass it with out indicating but my question is when approaching a 2 exit mini roundabout do you indicate as in theory you are leaving at the first exit even though you are driving straight trough.

No matter what size the roundabout you must ALWAYS indicate!!! Even if you are going straight through.

Alanstrainor

kingtut wrote: »

No matter what size the roundabout you must ALWAYS indicate!!! Even if you are going straight through.

I think the OP knows this, the question is more to do with indicating left on approach to that roundabout, with only a straight ahead and right exit.

OP I think I'd enter the roundabout with no indicator and indicate left once I entered to indicate my intention to exit at the first exit.

**Timbuk2**

I would *not* signal on approach, and then signal left at roughly the 9 o clock position (where the first exit would generally be, if there was one) - this makes your intention obvious to cars around you.

I've heard it mentioned to signal left on approach to these roundabouts as it's the first exit, and while I'm sure this is also acceptable for test purposes, I don't think it is as clear to other cars - as there is no left turn, people may not expect a left signal on approach to the roundabout, and may think that you wish to pull over before the roundabout (for example).

Regardless of which you do, it's important to signal before leaving the roundabout - this way traffic wishing to enter the roundabout will know that you intend to leave at that exit.

MascotDec85

A car does not have a straight ahead signal therefore you do not signal on the approach.

It doesn't matter if it's the first exit or not. The first exit could be to the right, you wouldn't signal left if you intended going right would you?

ADIDriving

Examiners in Dublin are ok with signaling on the approach to, as well as a quick signal on the mini-roundabout shown above. On that basis neither option is wrong and it becomes a choice of which exact method suit best.

starlit

How do you know which direction is straight through would it be the 2nd exit of the mini-roundabout?

Generally treat the mini roundabout as an ordinary roundabout. If going to 1st exit indicate left as you approach, signal as you pass 1st exit if going to the 2nd exit, signal right as you approach, then signal left when passing 2nd exit to go to the 3rd exit.

DriversEd

doovdela has it right, signal left on approach with all roundabouts if your going to take the first exit, even if that exit is to the right, as its the first exit and your in the left lane if its a two lane roundabout.
there's a lot of this type of situation with motorway roundabouts remember, the first road after the one you're entering on is often another entrance only onto the roundabout, and you would be in the left lane with a left indicator on when heading for the first exit, wouldn't you!!
one thing about mini roundabouts is the relative speed everything happens at on and around them because of their size. and as a result, its even safer to indicate on approach so as everyone is sure, in this case, your going straight, because thats the first exit to your left after entering.

be safe

MascotDec85

DriversEd wrote: »

doovdela has it right, signal left on approach with all roundabouts if your going to take the first exit, even if that exit is to the right, as its the first exit and your in the left lane if its a two lane roundabout.
there's a lot of this type of situation with motorway roundabouts remember, the first road after the one you're entering on is often another entrance only onto the roundabout, and you would be in the left lane with a left indicator on when heading for the first exit, wouldn't you!!
one thing about mini roundabouts is the relative speed everything happens at on and around them because of their size. and as a result, its even safer to indicate on approach so as everyone is sure, in this case, your going straight, because thats the first exit to your left after entering.

be safe

You're right doovdela does have it right, but that's not what you've went on to explain.


In general on roundabouts:
When going left, signal left on the approach
When going straight on, don't signal on approach (unless as described by ADIDriving)
When going right signal right on the approach.

It's that simple. Signalling left for a first exit which is to the right eg. at 3 o'clock is madness.


The Irish System is based on the UK Higway Code which actually explains it in more detail the ROTR does:
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_070338

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Signals and position.
When taking the first exit to the left, unless signs or markings indicate otherwise signal left and approach in the left-hand lane
keep to the left on the roundabout and continue signalling left to leave

When taking an exit to the right or going full circle, unless signs or markings indicate otherwise signal right and approach in the right-hand lane
keep to the right on the roundabout until you need to change lanes to exit the roundabout signal left after you have passed the exit before the one you want

When taking any intermediate exit, unless signs or markings indicate otherwise
select the appropriate lane on approach to the roundabout you should not normally need to signal on approach stay in this lane until you need to alter course to exit the roundabout signal left after you have passed the exit before the one you want

When there are more than three lanes at the entrance to a roundabout, use the most appropriate lane on approach and through it.

188
Mini-roundabouts. Approach these in the same way as normal roundabouts. All vehicles MUST pass round the central markings except large vehicles which are physically incapable of doing so. Remember, there is less space to manoeuvre and less time to signal. Avoid making U-turns at mini-roundabouts. Beware of others doing this.

starlit

So would straight through normally be the 2nd exit to you before and as you approach the roundabout?

MascotDec85

doovdela wrote: »

So would straight through normally be the 2nd exit to you before and as you approach the roundabout?

Normally yeah.

I'd normally describe a straight through exit as one at 12 o'clock (you approaching from 6 o'clock).

kingtut

Alanstrainor wrote: »

I think the OP knows this,

The OP said "when approaching a mini roundabout and you want to go straight you just pass it with out indicating" so they clearly did not know it but I agree on what you said about your method for indicating.

doovdela wrote: »

How do you know which direction is straight through would it be the 2nd exit of the mini-roundabout?

It is the exit that is directly across from you (assuming there is one) when you approach the roundabout

Chris_Heilong

I know all the normal rule for roundabouts, as this is not a normal roundabout its confusing to everyone, I know you indicate off a straight same as a large roundabout my question was more to do with the technically correct way to indicate as it is considered the first exit even though I consider it a straight. As others said I was not marked down for treating it as a straight during the test.

(btw, this is also a painted roundabout)