Carl Frampton v Scott Quigg

slapbangwallop

In the Carl Frampton - Scott Quigg power balance, has the momentum swung in Frampton's favour now?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO3d6vzDj64

Johner

I'd have Quigg at this stage to be honest. More experienced and his last performance against Booth was very good. I think Frampton will turn out to be the better of the two though.

walshb

Johner wrote: »

I'd have Quigg at this stage to be honest. More experienced and his last performance against Booth was very good. I think Frampton will turn out to be the better of the two though.

I agree, but barely. Booth was just not up to it, far too small. Looked like two weights below. Frampton will be a real tough test. Nip and tuck.

tryingmybestt

i feel frampton has to stop looking so much for the ko and box more and let the ko come

he showed last night that he's an excellent come forward counter puncher with excellent upper body movement and reflexes

i was most impressed with his upper body movement and his ability to draw his opponents punches and counter

he reminded me a bit of kostya tszyu in that he is coming forward all the time but also counter punching

great potential but mcguigan needs to get him to box more and stop putting so much expectation on him to get the ko

slapbangwallop

Johner wrote: »

I'd have Quigg at this stage to be honest. More experienced and his last performance against Booth was very good. I think Frampton will turn out to be the better of the two though.

Quigg had only a handful of amateur bouts and Frampton had over 100 including international honours.

Also Booth was shot to pieces and Frampton was handling him fairly easy in sparring over a year prior.

minty16

From what I've seen of both, my conclusion is simple enough. If Frampton wants to, he can outbox Quigg and score a points victory. If he is too aggressive Quigg can be very, very competitive and possibly even take it late. This is a dream match up in my eyes.

tryingmybestt

i'd give frampton the edge against quigg...

frampton is more rounded, more versatile....good boxer and slugger and imo a much better boxer than quigg

Jayob10

tryingmybestt wrote: »

i feel frampton has to stop looking so much for the ko and box more and let the ko come

he showed last night that he's an excellent come forward counter puncher with excellent upper body movement and reflexes

i was most impressed with his upper body movement and his ability to draw his opponents punches and counter

he reminded me a bit of kostya tszyu in that he is coming forward all the time but also counter punching

great potential but mcguigan needs to get him to box more and stop putting so much expectation on him to get the ko

Spot on here, also like Framptons versatility, I don't think he will be gung ho against Quigg, it will certainly be time to let his boxing skills come to the fore in this one.

Quigg is an exciting fighter but I think Frampton is capable of outpointing him 9 times out of 10. The only issue here is timing, i'm not sure if this fight may be a little too soon for Frampton. In a years time, I'd have him nailed on to win this fight.

Its a great potential match up

tryingmybestt

Jayob10 wrote: »

Spot on here, also like Framptons versatility, I don't think he will be gung ho against Quigg, it will certainly be time to let his boxing skills come to the fore in this one.

Quigg is an exciting fighter but I think Frampton is capable of outpointing him 9 times out of 10. The only issue here is timing, i'm not sure if this fight may be a little too soon for Frampton. In a years time, I'd have him nailed on to win this fight.

Its a great potential match up

yeah agree with that

he needs IMO another 3 or 4 fights before he fights quigg

he's only had 12 fights, the majority of up and coming fighters are still fighting guys with bad records at this stage

a few more wins will allow his to build his confidence and get used to the longer distance which is crucial, he needs to build stamina to get ready for a 12 round war with quigg......quigg is more used to 12 rounds

walshb

Quigg takes on Jamie Arthur in a bit on SS1, Fight Night!

barney4001

Looking at Quiggs record i doubt he will offer much resistance to Frampton

walshb

I think their styles mesh up nicely. I wouldn't pay too much attention to records. Both have yet to really step up. Quigg has more fights and rds under his belt, has good size and is strong. Both men will be a test to each other, a stiffer test to each other than any of their opponents were to them.

walshb

I sure am expecting Arthur to be a better opponent than Quigg's last, Booth.

barney4001

Id be inclined to go for an early win for Frampton when they meet

walshb

I know Booth has a win over Arthur, still think Arthur will offer more resistance.

walshb

As noted by the commentator, Booth looked a weight below Quigg, and Arthur looks a weight above Quigg!

There's some tit in the crowd chanting "knock out the Welsh bast%$d."

walshb

Fight is really heating up. Great action now. Quigg down in rd 4. Quigg piling on the pressure now.

walshb

Strange end to that one. Quigg lands a solid body shot, Arthur winces, turns away and the ref jumps in and stops it. Solid and clear body shot. Watt disagrees big time with ref, watches replay's, and now thinks maybe ref was right.

walshb

I was impressed with Quigg. Very solid, strong, very focused, tight defense, neat and heavy hands, takes a good shot, solid stamina and good body hitter. Frampton will want to be on his best to beat him. Want to see them fight before the year is out.

tryingmybestt

Quigg showed good character to come back strong after the knockdown

he was very good going forward

there were some very obvious negatives:

quigg showed he isn't very versatile, he is not very good at boxing and standing off and circling.....

quigg is also sometimes hesitant when throwing punches when he moves in close......it's like he's trying too much to pick the perfect punch......this will be a problem against someone with power like frampton

frampton can choose to box or fight quigg and be successful at both.....quigg can only have one tactic against frampton and that is to go forward and attack

i'm more convinced frampton would win not, although quigg looked very good going forward last night

slapbangwallop

walshb wrote: »

As noted by the commentator, Booth looked a weight below Quigg, and Arthur looks a weight above Quigg!

There's some tit in the crowd chanting "knock out the Welsh bast%$d."

sat right behind me he was, got a laugh the first time that he did it and then thought it would be funny to continually do it!!

walshb

Full of sauce no doubt?

Johner

Jus thought I'd bring this thread back up, don't think the fight will happen in the near future but nearly a year and a half on and both have had impressive wins. Frampton stopping Molitor and Martinez two very very good opponents and beating them well and Quigg with impressive stoppages of two opponents that have never been stopped.

Quigg probably didn't beat a whole lot on Saturday night but it was the way he did it that really impressed me, probably an unpopular opinion on here but I still think he would beat Frampton.

walshb

Johner wrote: »

Jus thought I'd bring this thread back up, don't think the fight will happen in the near future but nearly a year and a half on and both have had impressive wins. Frampton stopping Molitor and Martinez two very very good opponents and beating them well and Quigg with impressive stoppages of two opponents that have never been stopped.

Quigg probably didn't beat a whole lot on Saturday night but it was the way he did it that really impressed me, probably an unpopular opinion on here but I still think he would beat Frampton.

I can't see Quigg beating Carl. Carl is the more complete fighter.

Johner

walshb wrote: »

I can't see Quigg beating Carl. Carl is the more complete fighter.

I hope we get too see anyway! It's a big fight for the UK/Ireland.

Framptons next opponent went and got himself knocked out so that rules him out! New opponent to be announced soon.

Gorman700

walshb wrote: »

I can't see Quigg beating Carl. Carl is the more complete fighter.

I ALWAYS thought that, however, of late Quigg has been interviewed a lot stemming from his newly signed promotional deal with Matchroom Sports. I see a certain steely look and resilience in Quigg, a confident, super prepared, well trained look about the chap that just says to me he is ready.


Not detracting from Carl however who I absolutely love, he is a superb boxer, slugger and mover in the ring. I'm PRAYING this backwards move to Frank Warren doesn't hurt his career. (As I write this I hear his next fight is at super flyweight, against an unknown, well beaten fighter) that man knows how to smother careers!

megadodge

I really think this is a 50/50 fight.

Any time I've seen Quigg I've been impressed. He's a quality fighter and I'm surprised at the way some seem so certain that he'll fail v Frampton.

I certainly hope the fight actually does happen as I reckon it will be a cracker.

walshb

megadodge wrote: »

I really think this is a 50/50 fight.

Any time I've seen Quigg I've been impressed. He's a quality fighter and I'm surprised at the way some seem so certain that he'll fail v Frampton.

I certainly hope the fight actually does happen as I reckon it will be a cracker.

I agree. Quigg does impress me, but I'd have to take Carl for the win. No suprise if Quigg does it.

Johner

Hope Quigg wins the world title in September, would be great to have this fight for a world title.

Underground

Just read there that Kiko Martinez is getting a shot at the IBF title. He's fighting Romero on the undercard of the Geale-Barker fight.

Seems strange that Carl wasn't given that shot but the guy that he knocked out gets it.

megadodge

Underground wrote: »

Just read there that Kiko Martinez is getting a shot at the IBF title. He's fighting Romero on the undercard of the Geale-Barker fight.

Seems strange that Carl wasn't given that shot but the guy that he knocked out gets it.

Nothing is strange in boxing.

Big Ears

megadodge wrote: »

Nothing is strange in boxing.

Haha, very true. People forget this is a business first and a sport second.

Carl's team may not have been offered the fight for a few reasons:
Martinez is an easier opponent, suits Romero more style wise, he's cheaper to lure over to America, and has already had a comeback since his last fight.
If people are wondering why would I say that last bit as Carl won and Kiko lost, Carl suffered a perforated ear drum in the bout, so they'd probably like to settle him back in before being tested again.

However for all we know Carl's team may have been offered the bout but rejected it for various reasons: Not enough money, don't want to travel to America, don't want it as the first fight back after the injury, maybe feels he's not ready, maybe feel they want to build up the promotional stable a bit in Ireland (in terms of picking up Irish fighters) before staging such a bout. Who knows. But in boxing if it makes money it makes sense, and in one way or another Romero-Frampton didn't make sense.....for the time being.

walshb

Underground wrote: »

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Seems strange that Carl wasn't given that shot but the guy that he knocked out gets it.

Just to add on to what the fellas are saying. It's the opposite of strange. Makes perfect logical sense. "Easy" pay day the may figure. Kiko is limited, on the slide and was the loser vs. Carl. Be funny if Kiko upset them.

el flaco

Framptons fight this weekend is cancelled after a reoccurrence of an old ear injury.

Johner

Eddie Hearn ‏@EddieHearn 1m

Delighted to confirm we have agreed terms with @GoldenBoyBoxing for @scottquigg v Salinas for WBA World title-full details announced shortly

Tough but winnable world title fight for Quigg!

Dick phelan

el flaco wrote: »

Framptons fight this weekend is cancelled after a reoccurrence of an old ear injury.

What ah no i was really looking forward to see him back in action real shame hope the injury is not serious and he can fight soon