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Is Dublin 1 a good place for non europeans to stay?

  • 29-01-2012 9:56am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19


    Hi i'm going to Dublin to work and would like to know where the good areas are.

    I read about scangers or knackers? these people can attack everyone right. But they like to attack non europeans?

    Maybe Talbot, mountjoy, gardiner street I will live in because it looks very nice on google maps.

    I dont know what areas are good but I think maybe you can help me.

    Thank you very much
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    Best thing before you start is let us know where you'll be working and what's your budget like.
    We can help with areas then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 navsat


    whiskeyman wrote: »
    Best thing before you start is let us know where you'll be working and what's your budget like.
    We can help with areas then.

    I have 2000€ and I want to share apartment. I will work in city center.

    Thank you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 239 ✭✭Gae


    navsat wrote: »
    I have 2000€ and I want to share apartment. I will work in city center.

    I'm guessing you're not aiming to spend €2000 on accommodation? You should have a look at the Grand Canal Dock area which is close to the city centre. If you're sharing, you should be able to find somewhere good for a decent price. You could also look at the Ranelagh and Rathmines areas which are about 20-30 minutes walk from the city centre (and the Luas runs through Ranelagh).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,859 ✭✭✭Duckjob


    navsat wrote: »
    Hi i'm going to Dublin to work and would like to know where the good areas are.

    I read about scangers or knackers? these people can attack everyone right. But they like to attack non europeans?

    Maybe Talbot, mountjoy, gardiner street I will live in because it looks very nice on google maps.

    I dont know what areas are good but I think maybe you can help me.

    Thank you very much


    I would avoid the areas you've mentioned above - they are probably some of the roughest parts of the city. I certainly wouldn't walk around them late at night.

    Another poster mentioned Rathmines, Ranelagh etc, which are generally decent areas and very popular with renters. If you want Northside of the city - Stoneybatter, - Phibsborough, etc have decent, quiet parts.

    Remember there's good and bad pockets everywhere, so whereever you're looking at be sure to go there in the late evening and see what it feels like after dark.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭Mance Rayder


    For your own sake AVOID Talbot Street and Dublin 1 in general. It's like an open air heroin market.

    Rent in Castleforbes D2 or near IFSC just avoid Sheriff st area and you will be grand.
    Why not Clontarf? it's a stop away (3 mins) on the dart and it's like heaven compared to D1.

    Also look at Killester, Whitehall, Griffith Avenue, Drumcondra, Santry and Beaumont ALL within easy distance of the city centre and all quite safe.

    Don't rent anywhere between Connolly station and Henry st. and Parnell to the Liffey if you value your safety and sanity.

    D1 Is not a good place for anyone to live unless you want to be close to over a dozen heroin/methadone clinics.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    For your own sake AVOID Talbot Street and Dublin 1 in general. It's like an open area heroin market.

    Rent in Castleforbes D2 or near IFSC just avoid Sheriff st area and you will be grand.
    Why not Clontarf? it's a stop away (3 mins) on the dart and it's like heaven compared to D1.

    Also look at Killester, Whitehall, Griffith Avenue, Drumcondra, Santry and Beaumont ALL within easy distance of the city centre and all quite safe.

    Don't rent anywhere between Connolly station and Henry st. and Parnell to the Liffey if you value your safety and sanity.

    D1 Is not a good place for anyone to live unless you want to be close to over a dozen heroin/methadone clinics.

    Depressingly very accurate :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,109 ✭✭✭Cavehill Red


    Some strange answers here. Apart from pockets of Nigerian Dublin 15, Dublin 1 has easily the highest proportion of non-European residents of any district in the country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 navsat


    I want shops within walking distance, street view with google maps talbot street and smithfield looks clean.

    Clontarf and Rathimnes have bad bus connections?

    if you know areas with lots of shops and restaurants in walking distance please tell me.

    Let me say im not party type person and I dont go out after 22:00 usually.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    D1 Is not a good place for anyone to live unless you want to be close to over a dozen heroin/methadone clinics.

    There's junkies all over the city, Dublin 1 isn't any worse than Dublin 2 in that regard. It's certainly no more dangerous than other parts of the city - even if some of it looks like a kip. That said, I'd rather not live off Talbot street or Marlborough street, given options. And as the previous poster said - much of Dublin 1 is about as multi-ethnic/cultural as you'll get in the city.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,419 ✭✭✭Cool Mo D


    For your own sake AVOID Talbot Street and Dublin 1 in general. It's like an open area heroin market.

    Rent in Castleforbes D2 or near IFSC just avoid Sheriff st area and you will be grand.
    Why not Clontarf? it's a stop away (3 mins) on the dart and it's like heaven compared to D1.

    Also look at Killester, Whitehall, Griffith Avenue, Drumcondra, Santry and Beaumont ALL within easy distance of the city centre and all quite safe.

    Don't rent anywhere between Connolly station and Henry st. and Parnell to the Liffey if you value your safety and sanity.

    D1 Is not a good place for anyone to live unless you want to be close to over a dozen heroin/methadone clinics.

    A bit of an exaggeration I would say. You'll see plenty of addicts hanging around east of O'Connell street, but they're pretty harmless. The most hassle you're likely to get is being pestered for spare change.

    There are certainly nicer parts of the city though, so it wouldn't be my first choice.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 navsat


    Cool Mo D wrote: »
    A bit of an exaggeration I would say. You'll see plenty of addicts hanging around east of O'Connell street, but they're pretty harmless. The most hassle you're likely to get is being pestered for spare change.

    There are certainly nicer parts of the city though, so it wouldn't be my first choice.

    Is there many murder in dublin 1 and dublin 2? civilian or gang related?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭Mance Rayder


    Some strange answers here. Apart from pockets of Nigerian Dublin 15, Dublin 1 has easily the highest proportion of non-European residents of any district in the country.

    Balbriggan has as a high a ratio.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭Mance Rayder


    alastair wrote: »
    There's junkies all over the city, Dublin 1 isn't any worse than Dublin 2 in that regard. It's certainly no more dangerous than other parts of the city - even if some of it looks like a kip. That said, I'd rather not live off Talbot street or Marlborough street, given options. And as the previous poster said - much of Dublin 1 is about as multi-ethnic/cultural as you'll get in the city.

    OP asked about D1. I agree D2 is also a kip.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭Mance Rayder


    navsat wrote: »
    Is there many murder in dublin 1 and dublin 2? civilian or gang related?

    No Dublin West is the murder capital. Alot of theft and petty crime in city centre. It's also an extremely noisy and polluted place to live.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,528 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    As has already been hinted if you have the money then maybe you should try somewhere other than Dublin 1. If you really must live in the D1 area then while it is one of the dodgier places to live, you will have a bigger opportunity to meet other non-Europeans in the area.

    You don't say where exactly you're from but if you're worried about any racist aspects of the general area I wouldn't say it's any worse than a lot of areas of the city in that regard. And like I said with many people not of European descent in a similar situation to yourself living in the area, you won't be alone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,109 ✭✭✭Cavehill Red


    Dublin 1 is expensive (because central) and accommodation is usually small or sub-standard compared to other parts of town. It is also convenient (due to central location), well policed and has a large non-European community. I'd recommend living in a gated apartrment block in the area with decent security. But I'd recommend similar no matter what part of Dublin the OP was thinking of moving to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 navsat


    dsmythy wrote: »
    As has already been hinted if you have the money then maybe you should try somewhere other than Dublin 1. If you really must live in the D1 area then while it is one of the dodgier places to live, you will have a bigger opportunity to meet other non-Europeans in the area.

    You don't say where exactly you're from but if you're worried about any racist aspects of the general area I wouldn't say it's any worse than a lot of areas of the city in that regard. And like I said with many people not of European descent in a similar situation to yourself living in the area, you won't be alone.

    No worry about racism, I want to be able to go alone and walk around dublin 1 without get attacked or robbed.

    But you all say many heroin addict, they attack people everyday or?

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 239 ✭✭Gae


    navsat wrote: »
    I want to be able to go alone and walk around dublin 1 without get attacked or robbed.

    What's the attraction to Dublin 1? If it's because you think the '1' means 'city centre', like 'zone 1' does in London, that's not entirely true. Dublin postcodes are divided so that odd numbers are on the northside of the city, whereas even numbers are on the southside. The city centre is divided across Dublin 1 and Dublin 2, neither of which is more central than the other.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭Mance Rayder


    Gae wrote: »
    What's the attraction to Dublin 1? If it's because you think the '1' means 'city centre', like 'zone 1' does in London, that's not entirely true. Dublin postcodes are divided so that odd numbers are on the northside of the city, whereas even numbers are on the southside. The city centre is divided across Dublin 1 and Dublin 2, neither of which is more central than the other.

    Also Parts of Dublin 3 and 8.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭charlemont


    Some strange answers here. Apart from pockets of Nigerian Dublin 15, Dublin 1 has easily the highest proportion of non-European residents of any district in the country.

    And I'm sure its probably our own that cause all the trouble there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 810 ✭✭✭Laisurg


    If you're worried about getting attacked then stay well away from talbot street and gardiner street, to be honest even if you lived there I don't think you would have huge problems but they are rougher than most other places in the city, you might be able to find a shared house near south circular road, a lot of muslim people live in that area and the chance of a racial motivated assault there would be very low.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,109 ✭✭✭Cavehill Red


    charlemont wrote: »
    And I'm sure its probably our own that cause all the trouble there.

    Most, not all. Dogmatic self-loathing is just as much a form of racism as xenophobia. The location of methadone clinics in Dublin 1 draws them to the city centre, causing criminality problems, but junkies aren't the sole cause of criminality in Dublin 1, nor are Irish people. Consider, for example, the nationality/ethnicity of the aggressive beggars and scammers in Dublin 1.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭Mercurius


    navsat wrote: »
    No worry about racism, I want to be able to go alone and walk around dublin 1 without get attacked or robbed.

    But you all say many heroin addict, they attack people everyday or?

    Thanks

    No the junkies don't attack people everyday. The majority of them are harmless.

    Which part of Dublin 1 exactly where you thinking of renting?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,916 ✭✭✭NickDrake


    Mercurius wrote: »
    No the junkies don't attack people everyday. The majority of them are harmless.

    Which part of Dublin 1 exactly where you thinking of renting?

    they certainly are not harmless. Stay away from D1. It is absolutely disgusting.

    As others have said. Clontarf,Raheny if you want to stay north and be close to city centre.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 navsat


    NickDrake wrote: »
    they certainly are not harmless. Stay away from D1. It is absolutely disgusting.

    As others have said. Clontarf,Raheny if you want to stay north and be close to city centre.

    is there much people always on talbot street, o connell street 24/7?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭Mance Rayder


    navsat wrote: »
    is there much people always on talbot street, o connell street 24/7?

    Yes they are packed 24/7, they are amongst the busiest streets in Ireland. There is a period between around 3 am to 6 am that they get a little bit quieter but there is no such thing as peace and quiet in the city centre. Connolly station emptys people by the thousand out onto the talbot street area making it a prime spot for junkies begging and petty theft. Mobile phone theft is common there.

    O'connell st. is O'connell st., it is the heart of Dublin and is never quiet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭Mance Rayder


    Consider, for example, the nationality/ethnicity of the aggressive beggars and scammers in Dublin 1.

    Irish? I have never been harrassed by anyone other than Irish people and I'm a Northside Dub.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 navsat


    Yes they are packed 24/7, they are amongst the busiest streets in Ireland. There is a period between around 3 am to 6 am that they get a little bit quieter but there is no such thing as peace and quiet in the city centre. Connolly station emptys people by the thousand out onto the talbot street area making it a prime spot for junkies begging and petty theft. Mobile phone theft is common there.

    O'connell st. is O'connell st., it is the heart of Dublin and is never quiet.

    then odds not high to get robbed or beaten:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭Mance Rayder


    navsat wrote: »
    then odds not high to get robbed or beaten:D
    Navsat you trolling or what? You ask for advice you got advice it's up to you if you want to take it or not.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,109 ✭✭✭Cavehill Red


    Irish? I have never been harrassed by anyone other than Irish people and I'm a Northside Dub.

    A Northside Dub who's never encountered aggressive Roma beggars? A Northside Dub who's never read the many, many stories in the press about Eastern European ATM scammers?

    You're trolling, bud.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 navsat


    Navsat you trolling or what? You ask for advice you got advice it's up to you if you want to take it or not.

    No no I think if more people on streets it will be safer. Can I go to city center whole day from rathmines? is bus connection good?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭Mance Rayder


    No i'm not, I have encountered annoying Roma Beggers but they are not nearly as aggresive as the Irish junkies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭Think_then_talk


    navsat wrote: »
    is there much people always on talbot street, o connell street 24/7?

    Have a look here at the Dublin Cultural Institute's web cam its live
    (www.dublinci.com/webcam.php) 24/7 web of Dublin's O'Connell Street, also a phone shop in Talbot Street have 4 (http://www.nci.ie/ispy/


    k


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭charlemont


    Most, not all. Dogmatic self-loathing is just as much a form of racism as xenophobia. The location of methadone clinics in Dublin 1 draws them to the city centre, causing criminality problems, but junkies aren't the sole cause of criminality in Dublin 1, nor are Irish people. Consider, for example, the nationality/ethnicity of the aggressive beggars and scammers in Dublin 1.

    Nothing to do with self loathing, Its just we have a big scumbag problem and ours are generally worse than the foreigners, whom tend to stick to themselves anyway, I live in a dodgy area and about half the neighbourhood is foreign and its our own who fight, break into cars and assault people. The house next door is full of Muslims, best neighbours here.

    But yea I see your point about the begging and scamming, I wouldn't be too familiar with them though but in general I do feel a lot safer if I'm walking home and encounter a group of Africans/Poles or Muslims then a group of our finest sipping on cans and asking for fags.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,120 ✭✭✭p


    navsat wrote: »
    No no I think if more people on streets it will be safer. Can I go to city center whole day from rathmines? is bus connection good?
    From Rathmines it's a 15 minute walk to the City Centre, or you can take a bus. Rathmines and the general Dublin 8 area is a pretty good place to live. Close to the city so you can walk in, but just far enough away from the hustle & bustle.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 navsat


    p wrote: »
    From Rathmines it's a 15 minute walk to the City Centre, or you can take a bus. Rathmines and the general Dublin 8 area is a pretty good place to live. Close to the city so you can walk in, but just far enough away from the hustle & bustle.

    GPS says 49 minutes from rathmines to connolly station if walking. To temple bar area 33 minutes.

    it feels very far away


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,627 ✭✭✭Lawrence1895


    Did you ever consider getting a bike? It's a handy way to beat traffic jams.

    And we were talking about that old issue again? Who has the worst sc**bags? For me, a sc**bag is a sc**bag, never mind, which nationality or origin. But from all those, who assaulted or annoyed me so far, aprox. 95% were Irish :(


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