Painting a new room 101

nudger

The builders have left, they brushed the floors and now it's up to you to paint the room top to bottom or is that bottom to top.
What way do the pro's do it?
Seal the walls, Pva? ceiling first? skirting boards first? how many coats of each?
I've painted loads before but would like to know the a,b,c's of how to do it right.

Come on the painters, spill the beans.

paddy147

DO NOT use PVA or anything like that.

White matt emulsion paint watered down by 20-30% max and that will be perfect for a 1st primer/sealer coat of the bare plaster walls and ceilings.

Thats how my girlfriend recently painted our house,and it worked out a treat.:)

kelijryan

paint the ceiling first, then put masking tape around all the boarders, depending on wat colour the wall is currently and wat colour your painting it will depend on how many coats you use

nudger

Thought it would be good to give all the new plastering a coat of sealer, will the thinned matt do the job.

paddy147

nudger wrote: »

Thought it would be good to give all the new plastering a coat of sealer, will the thinned matt do the job.

Yes,20-30% watered down matt white paint is perfect for the ceilings and walls as a 1st/sealer coat.:)

Dont use PVA on new/fresh plaster,just use the watered down matt paint (see photos above).

nudger

Paddy, did you cut in by hand with a brush (as I call it) or did you mask it off.
I hate masking things as when i take the tape off paint pulls away.
Do you use any of these fancy cut in things or is it skill, tell the truth.

paddy147

nudger wrote: »

Paddy, did you cut in by hand with a brush (as I call it) or did you mask it off.
I hate masking things as when i take the tape off paint pulls away.
Do you use any of these fancy cut in things or is it skill, tell the truth.

My girlfriend used a 9 inch roller on an extension pole for the main ceiligs and walls,and then cut in with a 3 inch paint pad and also a 2 inch tipped cut in brush.

She didnt really use that much masking tape come to think of it.Mainly around socket/light fittings and the window frames.

A steady hand also helps with the various wall corners and where ceiling meets wall (different colours on different walls too)

Came up a treat.:)


Oh and she did the bathroom and ensuite ceilings with 2 coats of watered down matt paint and then 2 good coats of Dulux bathroom paint (in one of the pics above).

Left the ensuite and bathrooms showers alone for a good 24 hours after the 2nd coat of Dulux bathroom paint,so that it set and dried in fully.:)


PS-Neither myself or my girlfriend are painters,but we are both into diy,if and when we can.
If you dont give it a go,then you wont know...is how I look at things.

paddy147

Oh and with regards the door frames and skirting boards in the house,she used wood MacPhersons wood primer and eggshell on them.All the doors are "Doras" engineered oak doors,so at least she didnt have to paint them.

Again,she did a good job.Well,I think so anyway.
And she saved us alot of money by painting the house herself..:)

nudger

Paddy it's getting late, will pick your mind tomorrow if that's ok, thanks for the advice.

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michael999999

paddy147 wrote: »

DO NOT use PVA or anything like that.

White matt emulsion paint watered down by 20-30% max and that will be perfect for a 1st primer/sealer coat of the bare plaster walls and ceilings.

Thats how my girlfriend recently painted our house,and it worked out a treat.:)

Paddy can i ask why you now say not to use PVA on walls now, has something happened your walls since you used it on yours?

paddy147

michael999999 wrote: »

Paddy can i ask why you now say not to use PVA on walls now, has something happened your walls since you used it on yours?

Nope,nothing happened,but when both Crown Trade and Fleetwood trade told us that PVA wasnt a great idea,as it could leave shiney/patchy finish,that would show through the emulsion paint.

We decided to heed the advice (from the trade paint places and boards members) and play it safe,,stick with watered down emulsion paint. for the rest of the house.

Worked out a treat.:)

nudger

paddy147 wrote: »

My girlfriend used a 9 inch roller on an extension pole for the main ceiligs and walls,and then cut in with a 3 inch paint pad and also a 2 inch tipped cut in brush.

She didnt really use that much masking tape come to think of it.Mainly around socket/light fittings and the window frames.

A steady hand also helps with the various wall corners and where ceiling meets wall (different colours on different walls too)

Came up a treat.:)


Oh and she did the bathroom and ensuite ceilings with 2 coats of watered down matt paint and then 2 good coats of Dulux bathroom paint (in one of the pics above).

Left the ensuite and bathrooms showers alone for a good 24 hours after the 2nd coat of Dulux bathroom paint,so that it set and dried in fully.:)


PS-Neither myself or my girlfriend are painters,but we are both into diy,if and when we can.
If you dont give it a go,then you wont know...is how I look at things.

Hi Paddy

When you painted the bathroom ceiling with the bathroom paint, i'm guessing you had tiles on the walls or you would have done the walls as well?

paddy147

nudger wrote: »

Hi Paddy

When you painted the bathroom ceiling with the bathroom paint, i'm guessing you had tiles on the walls or you would have done the walls as well?

Yep,bathroom and ensuite are fully tiled out with a combination of 600 x 400 floor/wall tiles and then small 25 x 25mm moasic tiles through the tiles.(walls,floors and bath panels aswell).

Just the 2 ceilings to paint.:)

paddy147

Oh and if you are tiling out the bath panels,then dont forget to install an access panel aswell,so that you can access the underneath of the bath and bath taps.

The original tiler forgot to do this for us,so we ended up doing it ourselves,and we installed a moasic tiled access panel,to match the rest of the bath panel.
Worked out rather well,in the end.

nudger

Friend has had the builders in and need's the whole place painted and has asked me to advise/help.
Like I said I have painted lots of times before but he wan'ts it right and am just looking for advise from those who know.

tman76

why dont you work with a painter for a day?