Liverpool owners duped into buying Stewart Downing from watching fake youtube video

shadowcomplex

http://www.adifferentleague.co.uk/p6_1_13089_liverpool-owners-duped-into-downing-signing.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HCvpk1QsaM


What Id like to know is what video did they watch to convince them to pay 35m for Carroll

stumpypeeps

shadowcomplex wrote: »

http://www.adifferentleague.co.uk/p6_1_13089_liverpool-owners-duped-into-downing-signing.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HCvpk1QsaM


What Id like to know is what video did they watch to convince them to pay 35m for Carroll

Yes, wealthy and astute business men buy a player because he can kick a football into a bin.

How simple do you have to be to believe this?

lordgoat

Sometimes i really cringe at some of the idiotic posts in this place. Not you stumpy, just incase i'm lumped in with that non-martian.


Edit. There ya go.

shadowcomplex

stumpypeeps wrote: »

Yes, wealthy and astute business men buy a player because he can kick a football into a bin.

How simple do you have to be to believe this?

I wouldnt have believed it if they weren't the same owners that sanctioned a 35m purchase for Andy Carroll, I don't think this was very astute, do you?

shadowcomplex

lordgoat wrote: »

Sometimes i really cringe at some of the idiotic posts in this place. Not you stumpy, just incase i'm lumped in with that martian.

I didn't realise name calling was allowed, in fact I believe its not or are there different rules for moderators?

stumpypeeps

shadowcomplex wrote: »

I wouldnt have believed it if they weren't the same owners that sanctioned a 35m purchase for Andy Carroll, I don't think this was very astute, do you?

Comolli and Dalglish will have to take the blame for that one.

The only player I'm aware of that was signed because of a video was Bebe. Now that was retarded.

lordgoat

shadowcomplex wrote: »

I didn't realise name calling was allowed, in fact I believe its not or are there different rules for moderators?

Apologies i genuinely thought you were from Mars. If you can confirm this i'll edit my terrible slur on your good name.

Now the next part of that (one of your better ones too) post.

Yes i am a moderator. I moderate a forum called Alt/Indie (you wouldn't like it) and Gigs/Events (again you'd hate it) if you look below my name, both forums are listed there. Now here's the tricky part to understand. This is the soccer forum, where i, am not a moderator. I'll go over that part once more. I do not moderate the soccer forum.

So with that in mind, no there are not different rules for moderators.

Any questions feel free to pm me.

stumpypeeps

lordgoat wrote: »

Apologies i genuinely thought you were from Mars. If you can confirm this i'll edit my terrible slur on your good name.

Now the next part of that (one of your better ones too) post.

Yes i am a moderator. I moderate a forum called Alt/Indie (you wouldn't like it) and Gigs/Events (again you'd hate it) if you look below my name, both forums are listed there. Now here's the tricky part to understand. This is the soccer forum, where i, am not a moderator. I'll go over that part once more. I do not moderate the soccer forum.

So with that in mind, no there are not different rules for moderators.

Any questions feel free to pm me.

Class.

monkey9

It emerged today?? This has been doing the rounds for months. That quote from Tom Werner was from a interview done for LFC TV months ago!

shadowcomplex

lordgoat wrote: »

Apologies i genuinely thought you were from Mars. If you can confirm this i'll edit my terrible slur on your good name.

Now the next part of that (one of your better ones too) post.

Yes i am a moderator. I moderate a forum called Alt/Indie (you wouldn't like it) and Gigs/Events (again you'd hate it) if you look below my name, both forums are listed there. Now here's the tricky part to understand. This is the soccer forum, where i, am not a moderator. I'll go over that part once more. I do not moderate the soccer forum.

So with that in mind, no there are not different rules for moderators.

Any questions feel free to pm me.

Just because I asked you where there different rules for moderators doesn't mean I assumed you were a soccer mod, in fact what I did mean was because you are a moderator of some form perhaps you were part of a club thats above the law of non mod posters, Im not actually saying this is the case mind you hence why I asked the question in the first place,and no to answer your question , I am not from Mars

lordgoat

shadowcomplex wrote: »

Just because I asked you where there different rules for moderators doesn't mean I assumed you were a soccer mod, in fact what I did mean was because you are a moderator of some form perhaps you were part of a club thats above the law of non mod posters, Im not actually saying this is the case mind you hence why I asked the question in the first place,and no to answer your question , I am not from Mars

I assumed you thought i was a soccer forum moderator as this is the soccer forum and you asked because i was above the rules. I'm not. As i explained it was a simple misunderstanding and i edited my post to reflect that.


Also as your threads go, this one has got to be right up there. Top 3?

seanwhite20

This is hilarious because I remember where this quote is from...it was an interview by Ian Ayre with Tom Werner. This taken out of context completely. He knew the video was fake!! Im gonna try dig out that interview.

d22ontour

shadowcomplex wrote: »

I didn't realise name calling was allowed, in fact I believe its not or are there different rules for moderators?

Being called a martian isn't personal abuse, unless he is from Venus and meant it in an argumentative way and not a friendly way which he would be used to, being from Venus and all...

mayordenis

Within 5 posts the LFC owners have recieved condemnation for both taking too much interest ie. looking up videos of the coaches targets, and also not going over the head of the coaches to veto the Carroll move.

Exceedingly moronic.

seanwhite20

Ok im in work and I know this was an exclusive thing for LFCTV but there might be a copy of it posted somewhere...I'll try find it when i get home.

seanwhite20

Ok here's exactly what was said.You won't be able to watch the vid of it though because it's exclusive to LFCTV members.....

TW: I do have a funny story to tell you! When we first were talking about Stewart Downing, we looked on the internet to see what we could learn about him. And there was some footage of Stewart that maybe you can show our fans, where he is, from 30 yards away, kicking a football into five different trash cans and it's brilliant.

John and I said, 'Oh my god, this player is brilliant, we've got figure out a way to make a deal with him.' We later found out of course that the footage was somewhat doctored but we were so excited about Downing joining Liverpool.

Here's a link it has the full transcript from the interview...


http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/when-ian-ayre-met-tom-werner

Turtyturd

Did anyone post 'when are Liverpool gonna sign the bins to get on the end of his crosses' yet?

seanwhite20

Turtyturd wrote: »

Did anyone post 'when are Liverpool gonna sign the bins to get on the end of his crosses' yet?

hahaha NO! Ya got there first!

Iang87

even if they did see fake youtube videos Kenny would have known what he was about, oddly enough he had couple of teams before us

Smegball

Always knew he would be rubbish..

Turtyturd

seanwhite20 wrote: »

hahaha NO! Ya got there first!

Credit has to go to one of the posters in the LFC superthread who posted it a few weeks ago.

seanwhite20

Turtyturd wrote: »

Credit has to go to one of the posters in the LFC superthread who posted it a few weeks ago.

Oh right I didn't see that.You could have claimed it turtyturd nobody noticed!!;)

bazual

I never understand why people think the pool paid 35 mill for carroll. The torres deal was andy carroll plus 15 million so in reality Chelsea paid for 2 duds in Torres and Carroll.

bazual

bazual wrote: »

I never understand why people think the pool paid 35 mill for carroll. The torres deal was andy carroll plus 15 million so in reality Chelsea paid for 2 duds in Torres and Carroll.

That's it, I'm going to bed.

wcarey1975

bazual wrote: »

I never understand why people think the pool paid 35 mill for carroll. The torres deal was andy carroll plus 15 million so in reality Chelsea paid for 2 duds in Torres and Carroll.

And now the thread is going to implode.

Sappy404

Why didn't you post this in the superthread, OP?

d22ontour

Why isn't this rubbish locked ?

seanwhite20

Sappy404 wrote: »

Why didn't you post this in the superthread, OP?

Yeah why not the superthread? we could have had great fun!:D

shadowcomplex

bazual wrote: »

I never understand why people think the pool paid 35 mill for carroll. The torres deal was andy carroll plus 15 million so in reality Chelsea paid for 2 duds in Torres and Carroll.

Are you really retarded or just pretending to be

Will I Amnt

bazual wrote: »

I never understand why people think the pool paid 35 mill for carroll. The torres deal was andy carroll plus 15 million so in reality Chelsea paid for 2 duds in Torres and Carroll.

There's not enough eyes in the world to roll at that but here's one anyway :rolleyes:

Blatter

I was reading a blog by Hansen today on the BBC website and I'd like some of whatever he's smoking.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/16750484.stm

Originally Posted by Alan Hansen
I really believe Stewart Downing has it in him to be a world-beater. In the early stages on Wednesday he had Micah Richards backing off and backing of. Let me tell you there are only so many players who can do that to him.

With the ability he has he should be a world-beater but he is not. This has to come from somewhere, but there is a real talent in there and it is obvious Dalglish has great belief in him.

I thought I was reading a post on boards from Mr Alan for a minute.

Sir Gallagher

Paul McShane is the personification of this thread.

lordgoat

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

Paul McShane is the personification of this thread.

a bit harsh on mcshane. i'm amazed it's gotten this far without a lock though.

seanwhite20

Blatter wrote: »

I was reading a blog by Hansen today on the BBC website and I'd like some of whatever he's smoking.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/16750484.stm



I thought I was reading a post on boards from Mr Alan for a minute.

Mr Alan HANSEN!! Come on! his username is a dead give away!

seanwhite20

lordgoat wrote: »

a bit harsh on mcshane. i'm amazed it's gotten this far without a lock though.

Not harsh enough if ya ask me!!:pac:

Sappy404

Blatter wrote: »

I was reading a blog by Hansen today on the BBC website and I'd like some of whatever he's smoking.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/16750484.stm



I thought I was reading a post on boards from Mr Alan for a minute.

I don't agree with the extent of what he's saying, but Downing was quite good on Wednesday.

seanwhite20

Sappy404 wrote: »

I don't agree with the extent of what he's saying, but Downing was quite good on Wednesday.

If he'd look up more and stop putting the ball into feckin nobody he'd be doin ok!:D

Optimalprimerib

bazual wrote: »

I never understand why people think the pool paid 35 mill for carroll. The torres deal was andy carroll plus 15 million so in reality Chelsea paid for 2 duds in Torres and Carroll.

So the transfer Market has gone back to the trading system of old? If you give us Torres we will give you 15 million and a horse?

I am just after waking up the rest of the house laughing at the stupidity.

Essien

bazual wrote: »

I never understand why people think the pool paid 35 mill for carroll. The torres deal was andy carroll plus 15 million so in reality Chelsea paid for 2 duds in Torres and Carroll.

Is this a bit of a running gag or what? I've heard it mentioned quite a bit, do people actually believe it?

amiable

Essien wrote: »

Is this a bit of a running gag or what? I've heard it mentioned quite a bit, do people actually believe it?

I believe there is actually some substance to it but that doesn't come near to justifying the fee Liverpool paid for Carroll.

Whatever the reasons Liverpool paid 35 mill they grossly overpaid so it doesn't matter what way it's worded IMO.

It might be time to move on

monkey9

Liverpool chairman Tom Werner has described reports that the club signed Stewart Downing on the basis of a YouTube video as 'ridiculous'.

Stories this week emerged that Werner and the club's principal owner, John W Henry, decided last summer to push through an eventual £20million deal for the former Aston Villa winger after seeing clips on the internet.

The Liverpool hierarchy were said to have been dazzled by a doctored video featuring Downing slotting balls into five wheelie bins from long range, and quotes from Werner, from a dated interview with Liverpool's television channel, were used to support the story.

But Werner on Sunday dismissed the suggestion and was disappointed key details were left out of the original report.

"Someone told me about this," the American told Liverpool's official website. "It's a great story, but unfortunately for the person who wrote the piece, it isn't true.

"It actually comes from an interview I did five months ago with (Liverpool managing director) Ian Ayrefor our club TV channel in which I said that when we first talked about signing Stewart, we'd found a video of him kicking footballs into some trash cans.

"I explained in that interview back in August we knew the footage had been doctored, but I guess that detail doesn't really help stand up the story.

"The amount of people involved and the work that goes into a signing a player is huge so the suggestion that we'd buy someone on the back of one doctored video is ridiculous."


http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/7464970/Reds-dismiss-Downing-rumours

EdenHazard

Stewart Downing wasn't, won't and never will be anything approaching world class. he's like in the 5th tier of footballers at best.

niallo27

EdenHazard wrote: »

Stewart Downing wasn't, won't and never will be anything approaching world class. he's like in the 5th tier of footballers at best.

What tier of posters in this forum are you i wonder.

EdenHazard

Thankfully I have an actual life so I don't really care about my ranking on an internet forum

rossie1977

Essien wrote: »

Is this a bit of a running gag or what? I've heard it mentioned quite a bit, do people actually believe it?

suppose it depends if you believe the liverpool chairman or not seeing as he claimed it 4 days after the deal was completed

John Henry wrote:

The fee for Torres was dependent on what Newcastle asked for Carroll,” Henry told The Guardian, explaining they simply wanted a difference of £15m.

“The negotiation for us was simply the difference in prices paid by Chelsea and to Newcastle. Those prices could have been £35m [from Chelsea for Torres] and £20m [to Newcastle for Carroll], 40 and 25 or 50 and 35. It was ultimately up to Newcastle how much this was all going to cost. They [Newcastle] made a hell of a deal. We felt the same way

http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/72124.html

Thanx 4 The Fish

Well that is that then, pool have come out and denied and completely rubbished it. All over then so.