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The boards Bond thread

  • 27-01-2012 1:28am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭


    Starting watching some of the Bond movies this past week so thought I'd start a thread about them, I'm not really watching them chronologically although I've done that before over a few weeks. so what are peoples favourite movies, favourite Bond, favourite setpieces, songs, villains etc?

    I would have grown up watching the Roger Moore ones on UTV so have a soft spot for them, silly as they are, The Spy Who Loved Me is definitely Moore's best, but if Octopussy or Live And Let Die are on tv I'd find myself watching them. Of Connery's movies Goldfinger and From Russia With Love are my favourites, if only for Connery and Robert Shaw's fantastic fight on the train.

    I always thought Timothy Dalton was a really underrated Bond, its a pity he only got two movies to show it, Licence To Kill did the harder edged Bond long before Casino Royale did, and was more of an 80's revenge action movie than a Bond film in parts, thought Michael Kamen did a great job on the score and the Gladys Knight title song is excellent





    has some of the best stuns of the series too, the highlights being the opening plane stunt, the ski-less waterskiing and the truck sequence at the end.

    Brosnan I liked as Bond, his movies got progressively worse though, Goldeneye was a real return for the series and Tomorrow Never Dies as its moments but a really weak villain, The World Is Not Enough has a stunning opening sequence, just proper Bond action, and Die Another Day...well the first 20 minutes or so are interesting, but then its got cgi surfing, invisible cars and that horrid Madonna track, ugh. Pity he never got to end his run with the character on a high note.

    Daniel Craig was an odd choice for Bond, probably the least "Bond" looking of any of the actors, he wouldnt look out of place as one of the villians man henchman in another movie, but he did the cold hearted bastard thing quite well, and the series got the kick in the arse it sorely needed, in the years after Austin Powers you couldnt take it seriously anymore with villians having mountain layers or private armies of henchmen, stripping the series down to the basics and rebooting the franchies was what it needed, and Casino Royale was the best Bond in years. The new direction can be accredited to one Mr Jason Bourne as well, reigniting audiences taste for blockbuster spy thriller action without the sillyness of the previous Bond movies. and its got a kick ass theme song




    Wonder who'll they go with after Craig? I'd love to see either Michael Fassbender or Tom Hardy get a crack at it, both could easily pull it off depending on the direction they go with for the next few movies.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 323 ✭✭Underdraft


    Timothy Dalton was my favourite. I liked how there was no messing around in his films and how he was a pretty serious MF generally. Living Daylights was the first Bond I saw in the cinema an it was welcome surprise after seeing a few of the Moore movies on tv beforehand.

    I think the series generally suffers by constantly trying too hard to be "of it's time" and borrow their look from other contemporary movies, but that said I could probably sit down and watch either of the Dalton ones if I saw them pop up on tv. Don't think I could say the same for other Bond's with the odd exception.

    I've seen both of Craigs movies and I thought they were ok, hardly mindblowing. I might give them a rewatch on the run-up to Skyfall in October.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 323 ✭✭Underdraft


    BTW, Steve Coogan should defo be the next Bond :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,595 ✭✭✭Giruilla


    Timothy Dalton is definitely most underrated Bond. I'd say Daniel Craig is the worst, follows extremely closely by Roger Moore.

    I like Daniel Craig, but he portrayed Bond all wrong I though.. he made cool and funny, yet serious character into a kind of one dimensional prat I thought. When he tried to do the Bond one liners they just came across as pervy and creepy instead of cool.
    AlsoI can't stand the Bourne influence on him. Was half expecting Quortex of Nothing to end with Extreme Ways by Moby!


    My personal favourite was easily You Only Live Twice. The perfect Bond film (except for the surgery part which was just wierd). Favourite scene being this one . Its such a good one take shot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    love this video tribute to Desmon Llewelyn was on one of the dvds after he died. His final scene with Brosnan is pretty poignant given he died not long after.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,966 ✭✭✭Syferus


    By the end of the Brosnan era (and the Moore era too) Bond had become a humdrum collection of worn cliches, if it was going to remain valid they needed to change it and modernize Bond. They succeeded and just to add some fire to that conversation, Quantum of Solace is a better film than Casino Royale.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    QOS gets a lot of hate but I like it, the opening car chase is brilliant, its got a suitably sneery villain and its nice for a change that Bond doesnt wind up banging the hot foreign girl who tags along.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,528 ✭✭✭foxyboxer


    I like the movies so much, I bought a Bond watch! :o
    No laser though :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,318 ✭✭✭Fishooks12


    Is Craig not signed up for five more films?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    i loved the moore films as i grew up watching them as a child. my mothers a bond fanatic and i would watch all of them with her when growing up. ive appreciated sean connory more as i have grown up and my favorite bond film has to be goldfinger. it has such iconic villains, a great plot and a fantastic performance by connory. i liked dalton, brosnan and i love what craigs brought to the role. i never watched the film with lazenby properly so i can not comment on him.

    as someone mentioned earlier about tom hardy or Michael fassebender as the next bond i would be absolutely shocked if one of the two dont ever play 007.

    also favorite bond song for me has to be duran duran a view to a kill. max zorron was a brilliant psycho and although moore was far to old for the role the ending was gripping and brilliant. i have a soft spot for that bond film


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    love this sequence in The Living Daylights, Uncharted 3 pretty much lifted it directly for the plane sequence in the desert.





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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    I quite liked Timothy Dalton as Bond. I think I preferred him in The Living Daylights over Licence To Kill though I much preferred the story in Licence To Kill.

    My favourite Bond moments:









    As for Bond music:











  • Closed Accounts Posts: 865 ✭✭✭FlashD


    Cool to see i'm not the only Timothy Dalton fan, two solid Bond outings, License to Kill was also my first Bond film in the cinema, will never forget that scene where the smarmy henchman gets blown to bits in the pressure chamber :).

    I grew up with Connery and Moore on TV, Connery is my favourite Bond by a mile, Moore is fun in a campy comedic kind of way which I really liked as a kid.

    Even though I like Daniel Craig as Bond, he lacks the sophisticated, charming side of Bond and is more of a cold thug sometimes. Connery was best at striking this balance.

    Couldn't stand Brosnan as Bond, never bothered to watch his last 2 films, saw a clip of that CGI surfing...sad!

    Right now I can't see Fassbender or Hardy as Bond in the future, I rekon Craig doing a decent job and there's less focus on gadgets which is a good thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    FlashD wrote: »
    Couldn't stand Brosnan as Bond, never bothered to watch his last 2 films, saw a clip of that CGI surfing...sad!

    Tomorrow Never Dies and Die Another Day were absolutely awful films particularly the latter. It didn't even feel like a Bond film to me really. And that Madonna song.... *shudders*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 865 ✭✭✭FlashD


    That_Guy wrote: »
    Tomorrow Never Dies and Die Another Day were absolutely awful films particularly the latter. It didn't even feel like a Bond film to me really. And that Madonna song.... *shudders*

    Yeah man, all I heard were really bad things so best avoided I thought, but I didn't even enjoy Goldeneye which many think is Brosnan's best.

    When I heard Craig was the new Bond, best bit of Bond news in years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 865 ✭✭✭FlashD


    That_Guy wrote: »

    :D Theres a few stinkers in there unfortunately.

    Had a look through the clips you posted, 'For Your Eyes Only' classic! Best Moore film IMO.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 323 ✭✭Underdraft


    That_Guy wrote: »

    Very strange cover to that box. Funny how the "forgotten bonds" have been relegated to the right hand side.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 345 ✭✭spankmaster2000


    Without doubt; my own personal favourite "James Bond" moment...



    On a serious note; I don't think I'll ever understand the the hatred for the extremely under-appreciated "On Her Majesty's Secret Service".

    From it's tongue-in-cheek "This would have never happened to the other fella!" opening, to Louis Armstong's "We have all the time in the world" closing, the story itself is apparently the closest adaptation of any of Ian Fleming's works.

    George Lazenby (incidentally; the youngest actor to play James Bond) wasn't the greatest; but, I'd really have liked to see him give it another shot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,169 ✭✭✭rednik


    Live and let die was my first Bond in the cinema. I remember they had a speedboat in the foyer although I can't remember whether it was the Savoy or the Adelphi. Being from Dalkey it was a big interest at the time as the boats were made in western marine Bulloch harbour. It remains one of my favourites and Jane Seymour was stunningly beautiful. McCartney's theme also made it special.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Jane Seymour was an absolute hottie in that movie alright, one of my favourite Bond girls

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    Sophie Marceau too, just a ridiculously good looking woman

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,693 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    On a serious note; I don't think I'll ever understand the the hatred for the extremely under-appreciated "On Her Majesty's Secret Service".

    From it's tongue-in-cheek "This would have never happened to the other fella!" opening, to Louis Armstong's "We have all the time in the world" closing, the story itself is apparently the closest adaptation of any of Ian Fleming's works.

    George Lazenby (incidentally; the youngest actor to play James Bond) wasn't the greatest; but, I'd really have liked to see him give it another shot.

    OHMSS is actually my favourite of the old Bond films. It has the best action, the best score, the best girl, the best song, and it features Bond at his most human. It feels far more realistic than the other films without all the silly gadgets. Oh and Nolan totally ripped it off in Inception.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,140 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    Timothy Dalton all the way for me. Like many others of my age, grew up with the Bond Seasons on TV, and I always liked Timothy Dalton. While he had the charm and the bond charisma, he had a look about him that he would just burst ya.

    Funny enough that you assume most people think hes rated under the others, but when you have threads like this, hes always mentioned more then the others.

    I'd go as far as saying, that nowadays looking back, and with todays films where we want things more darker and edgier, Daltons Bond sticks out the best for most of us.

    I think its about time he took the mantle of the best Bond imo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    OHMSS is actually my favourite of the old Bond films. It has the best action, the best score, the best girl, the best song, and it features Bond at his most human. It feels far more realistic than the other films without all the silly gadgets. Oh and Nolan totally ripped it off in Inception.

    Nolan said he always wanted to do a Bond film, was the closest thing he had really, wonder would the ever give him a crack at it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,676 ✭✭✭dr gonzo


    I have a soft spot for both license to kill and you only live twice (a volcano lair!) but I will happily admit that Casino Royal is probably my favourite. Craig is an astoundingly good Bond. I just hope he doesnt give it up to quickly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,683 ✭✭✭✭Owen


    Pre-Craig, Dalton was the best for me. He had the suaveness but seemed to be able to have an agressive touch too. Course pairing him up with Miryam d'Abyo worked well too. And now I've just realised my ex was a carbon copy of her. Maybe I'm more of a bond fan than I thought!

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 865 ✭✭✭FlashD


    krudler wrote: »
    Nolan said he always wanted to do a Bond film, was the closest thing he had really, wonder would the ever give him a crack at it?

    I'd say Nolan at this stage has the choice of pretty much anything he wants as he is in superstar status but I guess a Bond film where a studio are dictating everything he has to do and include would be a step backwards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    FlashD wrote: »
    I'd say Nolan at this stage has the choice of pretty much anything he wants as he is in superstar status but I guess a Bond film where a studio are dictating everything he has to do and include would be a step backwards.

    true, he's probably got blank cheque status with warner bros at this stage, here's money, go make us a blockbuster type thing. but taking over something with 50 years of a legacy and fan expectiation is a different kettle of fish (although look what he did for the Batman franchise)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,342 ✭✭✭Bobby Baccala


    George Lazenby is the biggest gimp in the history of gimps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    Without doubt; my own personal favourite "James Bond" moment...



    On a serious note; I don't think I'll ever understand the the hatred for the extremely under-appreciated "On Her Majesty's Secret Service".

    From it's tongue-in-cheek "This would have never happened to the other fella!" opening, to Louis Armstong's "We have all the time in the world" closing, the story itself is apparently the closest adaptation of any of Ian Fleming's works.

    George Lazenby (incidentally; the youngest actor to play James Bond) wasn't the greatest; but, I'd really have liked to see him give it another shot.

    I saw On Her Majesty's Secret Service for the first time recently and really enjoyed it.
    But while Lazenby isn't that bad, I found it hard to take him seriously and have much confidence in him for a good chunk of the film because he had to have his voice (noticeably) dubbed by another actor when he was pretending to be the coat of arms expert.
    Even if it's unreasonable to expect him to pull off the accent (and I'd find it hard to see Connery bothering!), it's quite jarring and takes up a good chunk of the film's running time.

    I've always had a soft spot for Octopussy as I seem to remember RTÉ showing it all the time when I was a kid, especially around Christmas.
    I haven't seen it too often since then, which helps it keeps its nostalgic glow.

    Goldeneye has a similar place in my heart, strangely, because I had played the awesome N64 game a hell of a lot before I got round to seeing the film, and it kept amazing me by how faithful, in terms of the look of locations etc at least, the game was.
    But I still think it's a great film in its own right, and a needed return to form.

    I'm still on the fence about the two new ones. I thought they were a bit too obviously influenced by the Bourne films, and went too far the other way from the traditional Bond campiness and took themselves too seriously, especially Casino Royale.
    Though I think I enjoyed Quantum of Solace more than most people. I like Mathieu Amalric as the villain and it has some great set pieces and locations. I love the opera scene.
    It's too short though. It feels like the bare bones of a Bond film, and is just lacking a certain je ne sais quoi. All the necessary parts of a Bond film are there, but they don't seem to add up to a satisfying whole. And for the some reason the whole "Bond's gone rogue" element of the story bugs me. It doesn't feel necessary to the story at all, and seems like it was added on to artificially generate drama and conflict, and of course it had been done before.

    I think if I had to choose a favourite Bond film I'd go for Goldfinger. It just seems to be quintessentially Bondian but without being clichéd.
    I also quite like Dr. No. Connery seems to play Bond with a hard edge (reminiscent of the way Dalton plays him) that's lacking from his other performances.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 865 ✭✭✭FlashD


    I've always had a soft spot for Octopussy as I seem to remember RTÉ showing it all the time when I was a kid, especially around Christmas.
    .

    :D You're not wrong.

    It was wheeled out a few Xmas's in a row.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 829 ✭✭✭OldeCinemaSoz


    Without doubt; my own personal favourite "James Bond" moment...



    On a serious note; I don't think I'll ever understand the the hatred for the extremely under-appreciated "On Her Majesty's Secret Service".

    From it's tongue-in-cheek "This would have never happened to the other fella!" opening, to Louis Armstong's "We have all the time in the world" closing, the story itself is apparently the closest adaptation of any of Ian Fleming's works.

    George Lazenby (incidentally; the youngest actor to play James Bond) wasn't the greatest; but, I'd really have liked to see him give it another shot.

    Well summed up.

    Sking down a mountainside in the dark through trees with only one ski...

    Need i say more? A classic chase scene and THEY all love BULLITT. ;)

    And not forgetting the late John Barry score! :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭podgemonster


    For me the movie that stand out for me were GoldenEye and License to Kill. In LTK he avenges the attack on his friend Felix and his wife while in Goldeneye he must defeat his friend 006.

    I loved in license how the villian was just a rich drug dealer, not taking over the world or killing millions, just a greedy crime cocky boss. And Bond takes advantage of Davi's parania and mistrust of his lieutenants.

    Personnally I really think the Roger Moore films are a joke. In view to a kill, despite a wonderful villian, Bond looks close to 60s and slightly overweight yet has no problem seducing young women and beating of the crap out 4-5 armed men. I dont think any of his movies have aged well and Moore should have hung up the PPK at The Spy Who Loved Me.

    Connerys Bonds I still consider classics i would consider From Russia With Love to You only Live Twice to being the golden era of bond movie. Plus Thunderball with Tom Jones, what a tune!


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