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F1 teams sharing engines

  • 25-01-2012 11:25am
    #1
    7daze
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭


    Quick Question: Do F1 teams using the same engines, like Red Bull and Lotus or Ferrari and Toro Rosso, have the identical engine or are there engine variants?
    Thanks


Comments

  • #2
    wanlabanchang
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 28 ✭wanlabanchang


    well they all tune their engine's to different specs, but all start with the same basic block


  • #3
    ratedR
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 335 ✭✭ratedR


    Same engines yes, but the airboxes and intakes will be different, as will the exhausts, and different teams use different petrol with different additives.
    All of the above probably wont make much difference though, it's the aero package that makes the difference.


  • #4
    Jordan 199
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,282 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199


    ratedR wrote: »
    Same engines yes, but the airboxes and intakes will be different, as will the exhausts, and different teams use different petrol with different additives.
    All of the above probably wont make much difference though, it's the aero package that makes the difference.

    Red Bull is a good example of that. The Renault engines they use aren't as powerfull as the Mercs but their aero package makes the difference.


    Also on engines, I'd say the days of the 'works' or 'factory' engines are long gone. Benetton had the works Ford deal from 1987 to 1994, so their engines were always going to be better spec'd than the teams using the customer Ford engines.

    Also, Benetton got their engines for free and were updated throughout a season whereas the customer teams had to fork out for theirs.


  • #5
    Oblomov
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,672 ✭✭✭Oblomov


    For 2007 the engine specification was frozen to keep development costs down. The engines which were used in the 2006 Japanese Grand Prix were used for the 2007 and 2008 seasons and they were limited to 19,000 rpm. In 2009 the limit was reduced to 18,000 rpm with each driver allowed to use a maximum of 8 engines over the season. Any driver needing an additional engine is penalised 10 places on the starting grid for the first race the engine is used. This increases the importance of reliability, although the effect is only seen towards the end of the season. Certain design changes intended to improve engine reliability may be carried out with permission from the FIA. This has led to some engine manufacturers, notably Ferrari and Mercedes, exploiting this ability by making design changes which not only improve reliability, but also boost engine power output as a side effect. As the Mercedes engine was proven to be the strongest, re-equalisations of engines were allowed by the FIA to allow other manufacturers to match the power.[13]


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