Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Hi there,
There is an issue with role permissions that is being worked on at the moment.
If you are having trouble with access or permissions on regional forums please post here to get access: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058365403/you-do-not-have-permission-for-that#latest

Irish locos in Spain

  • 24-01-2012 7:28pm
    #1
    corktina
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭


    Just bought a book which shows a Woolworth being loaded on board ship and a dockside full of Irish locos in Spain. :(


Comments

  • #2
    Judgement Day
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,549 ✭✭✭✭Judgement Day


    The survival of Irish locos in Spain used to be an urban (?) legend when I became interested in preservation back in the late 1970s, but the pic you refer to shows, they were cut up on the quayside where they were unloaded. I seem to remember that there was some financial shenanigans involved as they were shipped from Ireland as 'operational' locos. Perhaps I'm incorrect in this, it wouldn't be the first time. :D


  • #3
    eejoynt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭eejoynt


    there was a ban on the export of scrap (or a customs duty - same effect) in order to keep raw material prices low for Irish Steel in Haulbowline.
    Shenanigans is maybe a tad to strong a word - maybe proving that the law in this case was an ass!

    there are some pics and a list i think in the IRRS journal at the time


  • #4
    CaptainSkidmark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,240 ✭✭✭CaptainSkidmark


    is that picture online?


  • #5
    corktina
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    not as far as I have found


  • #6
    dmcronin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 267 ✭✭dmcronin


    What's the title/author of the book?

    Sounds like part of Todd Andrews' clearout of Inchicore.
    Were any Irish locos scrapped by private firms here, a la Barry in the uk?


  • Advertisement
  • #7
    roundymac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,712 ✭✭✭roundymac


    Forgive my ignorence, but what's a Woolworth?


  • #8
    dmcronin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 267 ✭✭dmcronin


    A nickname for a 2-6-0 loco, built at Woolwich Arsenal, regauged to 5'3'' and bought 'off the shelf' at a bargain price.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSR_Classes_372_and_393


  • #9
    roundymac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,712 ✭✭✭roundymac


    Ahh, were these also know as Woolwich Moguls, or am I going off in the wrong direction?


  • #10
    dmcronin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 267 ✭✭dmcronin


    The very same, 'Mogul' is a reference to the 2-6-0 wheel arrangement.


  • #11
    corktina
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    roundymac wrote: »
    Forgive my ignorence, but what's a Woolworth?

    sorry, I'm more used to the SR U and N class cousins...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SECR_N_class

    k35gyu.jpg
    Book is Railways in Irelnad part 4 GSW by Martin Bairstowisbn 978 1 871944 40 2


  • Advertisement
  • #12
    Losty Dublin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,258 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    There was a certain Northern Ireland scrap metal merchant who supposedly bought up a welt of the ex CIE and UTA steam locos, scrapped them and sold on the metal and boilers and made his fortunes. He is more famous for a few other trades, mind :)


Advertisement