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Varadkar and the bomb

  • 22-01-2012 7:42pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,630 ✭✭✭


    Unfortunately, sometimes politicians resort to the manipulation of language to defend their views.

    In the linked article, our Minister for Transport and Tourism seemed to feel the need to repeat the word 'bomb' numerous times in a RTE interview, defending his government's bailout decisions.

    He added that a bomb would 'go off' in Dublin, if Ireland did not obey the terms.

    Given what the word entails, does anyone else find it disturbing to be used by a Minister in a financial context?

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0122/politics.html


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    Unfortunately, sometimes politicians resort to the manipulation of language to defend their views.

    In the linked article, our Minister for Transport and Tourism seemed to feel the need to repeat the word 'bomb' numerous times in a RTE interview, defending his government's bailout decisions.

    He added that a bomb would 'go off' in Dublin, if Ireland did not obey the terms.

    Given what the word entails, does anyone else find it disturbing to be used by a Minister in a financial context?

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0122/politics.html

    Down with metaphors in government!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,164 ✭✭✭cavedave


    steelcityblues

    Given what the word entails, does anyone else find it disturbing to be used by a Minister in a financial context?
    The ECB also said "We don't want you to default on these payments, it is your decision ultimately. But a bomb will go off, a bomb will go off in Dublin, not in Frankfurt, because of the reasons I've outlined."

    If the ECB actually said that would you be ok with him reporting it? Is your problem with the phrase only if he is making the bomb metaphor rather than reporting others having made it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 587 ✭✭✭fat__tony


    'Not another red cent will go into Anglo Irish' or something along those lines.

    Remember these famous words In January/February 2011 Leo?

    He's a slimy, lying little ****.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,474 ✭✭✭Crazy Horse 6


    Yes for jobs etc...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,630 ✭✭✭steelcityblues


    cavedave wrote: »
    If the ECB actually said that would you be ok with him reporting it? Is your problem with the phrase only if he is making the bomb metaphor rather than reporting others having made it?

    Well, we know that the current government do/say the same as the ECB, so my bigger complaint is that Varadkar felt he had to use the same terminology on RTE. Are any of them critical thinking non puppets, who can speak for themselves?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,164 ✭✭✭cavedave


    steelcityblues if the ECB really said 'But a bomb will go off, a bomb will go off in Dublin, not in Frankfurt' I am glad Varadkar reported that. Even if it is very insensitive, if they said it I am glad we heard it
    Are any of them critical thinking non puppets, who can speak for themselves?
    If the ECB are muttering like Tony Soprano we and Europe in general have bigger problems than could be solved by one transport minister.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭Dob74


    Unfortunately, sometimes politicians resort to the manipulation of language to defend their views.

    In the linked article, our Minister for Transport and Tourism seemed to feel the need to repeat the word 'bomb' numerous times in a RTE interview, defending his government's bailout decisions.

    He added that a bomb would 'go off' in Dublin, if Ireland did not obey the terms.

    Given what the word entails, does anyone else find it disturbing to be used by a Minister in a financial context?

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0122/politics.html


    No, I dont find the word Bomb being used disturbing.
    What I find disturbing is the complete lack of transparency when it comes to finanical matters, when taxpayer money is invovled.
    In fact when it comes to must important issues politicians become vague.
    Yes to jobs was the slogan for the last EU treaty.
    A finanical bomb will go off will probably be the slogan for the next treaty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,417 ✭✭✭Count Dooku


    cavedave wrote: »
    If the ECB actually said that would you be ok with him reporting it? Is your problem with the phrase only if he is making the bomb metaphor rather than reporting others having made it?
    IMF had different opinion
    Speaking at a press conference in Dublin today the IMF’s mission director to Ireland, Craig Beaumont, said the IMF had no objection to Ireland enforcing losses on the senior unsecured bondholders of its banks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,973 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,691 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Does anyone else think Leo is lying? There is no way anyone in Europe said a bomb will go off. Can we verify what was actually said as if he's lying he should be prosecuted for treason.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,727 ✭✭✭✭Godge


    Read the article and it is not as dramatic as the OP suggested. He said a "financial bomb" would go off. I understand what he meant, he was referring to the reaction to a change in the bailout decisions.

    Happen to agree with him for what it is worth. However, nothing compared to the "financial bomb" that will go off if we default and leave the euro etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    fat__tony wrote: »
    'Not another red cent will go into Anglo Irish' or something along those lines.

    Remember these famous words In January/February 2011 Leo?

    He's a slimy, lying little ****.

    a not a single red one has ;)
    Plenty of copper coloured ones no doubt, but no red :pac:
    Carefully worded eh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 919 ✭✭✭jbkenn


    Unfortunately, sometimes politicians resort to the manipulation of language to defend their views.

    In the linked article, our Minister for Transport and Tourism seemed to feel the need to repeat the word 'bomb' numerous times in a RTE interview, defending his government's bailout decisions.

    He added that a bomb would 'go off' in Dublin, if Ireland did not obey the terms.

    Given what the word entails, does anyone else find it disturbing to be used by a Minister in a financial context?

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0122/politics.html
    Watched to interview on "The Week in Politics", the choice of words was probably dictated by the fact that Mary Lou was sitting next to him, defuse (forgive the pun) the situation, before it gets out of hand, so to speak.
    Leo, and the rest of the Government, are like the dog who chased the wheel of the car, they caught it, and, now they have'nt a ****ing clue what they are supposed to do with it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,212 ✭✭✭Jaysoose


    Does anyone else think Leo is lying? There is no way anyone in Europe said a bomb will go off. Can we verify what was actually said as if he's lying he should be prosecuted for treason.


    dont think he is lying..out of his depth and without a clue most certainly, quite possibly the biggest waffler and attention seeker in goverment to boot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 805 ✭✭✭BeeDI


    jbkenn wrote: »
    Watched to interview on "The Week in Politics", the choice of words was probably dictated by the fact that Mary Lou was sitting next to him, defuse (forgive the pun) the situation, before it gets out of hand, so to speak.
    Leo, and the rest of the Government, are like the dog who chased the wheel of the car, they caught it, and, now they have'nt a ****ing clue what they are supposed to do with it.

    Yeah, but Mary's mates, are experts in bombs! So if we had the Shinners in power, they would be able to handle the "situation":D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,283 ✭✭✭✭Scofflaw


    Interesting issue, dreadful low-quality thread. This is the Politics forum, not the Media forum or AH.

    moderately,
    Scofflaw


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