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36 points how would you like to get them ?

  • 22-01-2012 12:24pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 417 ✭✭


    Guys, say your an 18 handicapper, which of these options would you prefer to get your 36 points ?

    1) 18 bogies
    2) 9 pars and 9 double bogies
    3) 12 pars and 6 scratches ?

    Each of these 3 options has pros and cons but just interested to know which option ye would prefer ?

    Ps I know there are other permutations and combinations to make 36 points but if the trolls could refrain from pointing out these then it would be appreciated.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,015 ✭✭✭link_2007


    Definitely the first option for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,003 ✭✭✭Kevinmarkham


    Good question!

    The idea of eighteen 2 points seems so boring, but at least it shows consistency.

    I always want a 3 or even a 4 pointer on my card, and I'll accept a scratch or two in their place for the thrill of a birdie or nett eagle... and proof that I can have moments of brilliance ;) even if it's then followed by 1s and scratches.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,015 ✭✭✭link_2007


    I always want a 3 or even a 4 pointer on my card, and I'll accept a scratch or two in their place for the thrill of a birdie or nett eagle... and proof that I can have moments of brilliance ;) even if it's then followed by 1s and scratches.

    I can understand why someone would prefer to score this way but for me personally, it would cause me to think that the eagle/birdie was a fluke more than a moment of brilliance.

    Maybe also because I am fairly new to the game, I am still at the stage where consistency is something that I crave.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 417 ✭✭Freemount09


    Good question!

    The idea of eighteen 2 points seems so boring, but at least it shows consistency.

    I always want a 3 or even a 4 pointer on my card, and I'll accept a scratch or two in their place for the thrill of a birdie or nett eagle... and proof that I can have moments of brilliance ;) even if it's then followed by 1s and scratches.


    Yea, I was out yesterday and had all bogies bar one par and one double bogie. I was happy enough with the consistency, and not having a scratch, and I enjoyed the round while playing along, but thinking back can't help feeling alittle 'meh'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭k.p.h


    Stable-ford points only matter to me when I'm on the course, I often rationalize a bad hole with the idea of picking up the lost points on another upcoming hole. I use 2 points per hole as the minimum I should be scoring. This is a well and good as it get's me around the course while focused but I don't really use it as an indicator as to how I am playing.

    When I get to the end of the round I tot up the total strokes and that's what I use, so any time there is a scratch on the card it's terrible. A scratch usually means your "hitting the ball and missing the course" or "hitting the course and missing the ball" neither which are conducive to good golf.

    I would consider your round really good, if you could do that consistently it would not be long before you had a round where you picked up a couple of extra pars and maybe a birdie and walked off with a low 80's or nearly 70's round and some silverware...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,003 ✭✭✭Kevinmarkham


    link_2007 wrote: »
    I can understand why someone would prefer to score this way but for me personally, it would cause me to think that the eagle/birdie was a fluke more than a moment of brilliance.

    Maybe also because I am fairly new to the game, I am still at the stage where consistency is something that I crave.

    You'll know yourself whether something was a fluke (chipping your third shot in for a birdie after two lousy shots, for instance) and you'll know when it's brilliance.

    And trust me, you may be new to the game but we're all still craving for consistency. The only thing I'm consistent at is being inconsistent - and that's after 35 years of golf.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 867 ✭✭✭thewobbler


    The monotony of 18 bogeys would drive me mad. Everyone has their own views on golf, mine is that proving you can go round without incident is not something to be proud of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 281 ✭✭jimmystars


    12 pars and 6 scratches. Any 18 handicap who gets 12 pars has got to be happy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 265 ✭✭Halfprice


    scratching a hole (apart from my own:)) drives me mad. just dont like seen a scratch on the card.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭stockdam


    I don't think there is a good answer to this question.

    18 straight bogeys would imply a weakness in the game like not being long enough from the tee to get up in regulation.

    I'd rather have 12 pars and 6 scratches as that would show the potential to put together a good score if the inconsistency can be removed. I'd also prefer to be able to par holes than to hit a bogey ceiling.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 971 ✭✭✭Senecio


    I've never seen an 18 'capper shoot 18 consecutive bogies and I'll go on record to say I never will. By definition, they are not consistent golfers. They need the 3 & 4 pointers to even out the scratches.

    Most people don't realise that handicap systems are set-up so that you should only play to, or beat, your handicap 2-4 times out of 10. 36 points is not just an OK score, its a very good round.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 550 ✭✭✭Jul3s


    If I was an 18 handicapper I'd be delighted with 36 points any day of the week and not care or over analyze how I got it, it's a bit like the fella who makes a putt and then gives out about the ball going in on the left side instead of the right side of the hole.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,512 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    18 bogeys.

    But of course, it all depends on how you got them. i.e. were you hitting every green in regulation and then 3-putted ;) or scrambling and getting down in 1 putt each time ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,215 ✭✭✭scrubber72


    Don't really care but to be honest I always try score 38+. that was what usually ss in the club I was in. I use it as a target instead of 36


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,057 ✭✭✭irish bloke


    12 pars and 6 scratches for me.

    I would be very annoyed with myself if I went around a golf course and didn't score at least 1 par..

    12 pars would bring me back all day long.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 417 ✭✭Freemount09


    k.p.h wrote: »
    Stable-ford points only matter to me when I'm on the course, I often rationalize a bad hole with the idea of picking up the lost points on another upcoming hole. I use 2 points per hole as the minimum I should be scoring. This is a well and good as it get's me around the course while focused but I don't really use it as an indicator as to how I am playing.

    When I get to the end of the round I tot up the total strokes and that's what I use, so any time there is a scratch on the card it's terrible. A scratch usually means your "hitting the ball and missing the course" or "hitting the course and missing the ball" neither which are conducive to good golf.

    I would consider your round really good, if you could do that consistently it would not be long before you had a round where you picked up a couple of extra pars and maybe a birdie and walked off with a low 80's or nearly 70's round and some silverware...


    I have found if I'm thinking too much about stableford points when out on course if I scratch a hole I can chase it abit to try to make up the lost points and I end up scratching another hole or two and my score is gone out the window.

    I agree with you though when your saying bout picking up a few pars and maybe a birdie, with abit more run in the fairways, with the greens rolled and cut down and a tad more luck / skill / practice I'm hoping a there'll be a nice score or two when this season kicks off ? But then this is what keeps bringing us back out to play the next round !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,370 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Addressing the actual OP, as an 18 handicapper you want option 3, typically that would show good skill level but poor course management, you can fix course management easier than lack of skill.
    As a lower handicap id want the consistency of 18 nett pars pointers, typically that would signify a day where just no putts dropped.

    So for me it totally depends on what handicap you are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭diarmuid05


    I cant see how option 3 is even possible...

    An 18 handicapper that gets 12 pars..... is not an 18 handicapper.

    There's lads playing off single figures that'd love 12 pars...


    BUT

    I'd prefer option 1 all day long...
    It's be either some great scrambling on a poor day or lots of missed par puts for a round like that though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭mikeunt


    GreeBo wrote: »
    Addressing the actual OP, as an 18 handicapper you want option 3, typically that would show good skill level but poor course management, you can fix course management easier than lack of skill.
    As a lower handicap id want the consistency of 18 nett pars pointers, typically that would signify a day where just no putts dropped.

    So for me it totally depends on what handicap you are.

    OP stated that his question was for 18 handicappers.
    It was a hypothetical question.
    He didnt want to know how a lower handicap golfer would like to accumulate 36 points:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 281 ✭✭dnjoyce


    A 15/21 split for front/back - in the unlikely event 36 points was in the shake up you'd pinch a prize on the back-9 and come off the course feeling better about your performance.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,344 ✭✭✭death1234567


    12 pars and 6 scratches. If your good enough to get 12 pars then your a better golfer than an 18 handicap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,370 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    mikeunt wrote: »
    OP stated that his question was for 18 handicappers.
    It was a hypothetical question.
    He didnt want to know how a lower handicap golfer would like to accumulate 36 points:rolleyes:


    Ermmm what? Did u miss the very first sentence of my post? Perhaps blinded by the bridge you were posting from underneath?
    GreeBo wrote: »
    Addressing the actual OP, as an 18 handicapper you want option 3


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