Berlingo smoky and runs rough, help please!

farrellniall

well lads and lasis

i have a 1.6HDI 08 old shape berlingo.

is has 92 thousand miles on it.

this has been goin on a while when i start it up the morning is smokes a bit of blue smoke and runs sort of rough for about 10 minutes when let idle.

and before you say heating plugs i done all 4 of them at €65 for them.

now i hope some one can help me here. i dont what puting in injectors becouse i simply dont have the money.
but if i have thing ill have to find away of doing it.

slimjimmc

EGR valve ?

farrellniall

but its not low on power??

couldntthink

Possibly pump timing. It has an adjustable pulley and could be out a tiny bit. I have seen it happen to a berlingo a couple of times. Not something to take on yourself though.

Row

couldntthink wrote: »

Possibly pump timing. It has an adjustable pulley and could be out a tiny bit. I have seen it happen to a berlingo a couple of times. Not something to take on yourself though.

The 1.6hdi's are common rail so the pump is'nt timed...I'd second an egr problem.....It maybe worth giving it a cleaning.
To be sure your better off getting it hooked up to diagnostic equip and read any fault codes (if any)

couldntthink

Row wrote: »

The 1.6hdi's are common rail so the pump is'nt timed...I'd second an egr problem.....It maybe worth giving it a cleaning.
To be sure your better off getting it hooked up to diagnostic equip and read any fault codes (if any)

Good call, didn't read the message. Just saw berlingo and smoke.

farrellniall

thanks lads how could i do it. noticed this morning that there was a we tapping sort of noise in the engine.

Row

farrellniall wrote: »

thanks lads how could i do it. noticed this morning that there was a we tapping sort of noise in the engine.

Get it looked at asap as a stitch in time saves nine.

farrellniall

well my motto drive her till she stops lol.

Row

farrellniall wrote: »

well my motto drive her till she stops lol.

Not recommened for modern diesels....:eek:....Just say your engine is suffering from poor oil pressure...The first thing that will fail is your turbo (around 800-1000euro fitted) then it may take out your cam chain which connects your camshafts as the tensioner relies on oil pressure to keep
tension on the chain...if this happens your better off fitting a good s/h engine.....Its up to yourself....

andy t

i know its an old thread but ive the same issue & have been told its most likely egr built up with crap so gonna give this a clean tomorrow

corkthai

Not sure you can clean the EGR in them, They are electronic based ??
And nearly impossible to get second hand - too expensive new
Ive fitted a blanking plate (10 euro delivered) to my fathers one and its Hunky Dory since.

Caliden

I had this issue with my 1 series.

Rough start on cold mornings with a blue-ish colour smoke and rough idle for several minutes.
Turned out it was 2 of the glowplugs that needed replacing.

Had the EGR cleaned as well but found people on a few BMW forums who had the same symptoms and glowplugs were their issue too.

Row

I'd 2nd corkthai on blanking the egr valve as cleaning may not always sort the problem....Glow plugs usually flag a p1351 fault in the ecu so its worth scanning it for faults before you go pulling the engine apart..:)

the culture of deference

corkthai wrote: »

Not sure you can clean the EGR in them, They are electronic based ??
And nearly impossible to get second hand - too expensive new
Ive fitted a blanking plate (10 euro delivered) to my fathers one and its Hunky Dory since.

Is it easy to blank the EGR on the 1.4 hdi engine. My C3 started running rough and losing power. Turbo was ok, engine would rev to 4k in neutral.

debabyjesus

the culture of deference wrote: »

Is it easy to blank the EGR on the 1.4 hdi engine. My C3 started running rough and losing power. Turbo was ok, engine would rev to 4k in neutral.

Fairly handy although egr is down the back iirc. The plate is slotted so just loosen off the valve enough to slide it in.

http://m.ebay.ie/itm?itemId=170912771190

andy t

ideal

il try this

andy t

just ordered it now,,, could probably make 1 but at least this will go straight in 1st time

the culture of deference

debabyjesus wrote: »

Fairly handy although egr is down the back iirc. The plate is slotted so just loosen off the valve enough to slide it in.

http://m.ebay.ie/itm?itemId=170912771190

Hows is your car running with the egr blanked off. Can you do the NCT with it or does anything else need to be changed?