transit clutch help

jambofc

hi all,bit of a clutch problem on my transit,im kinda stuck on this one.
on a long journey today i noticed a slight humming/wirring sound coming from the clutch side of the front of my van(2001 fwd 2.0) it went after a while and all seemed ok,then had to do a quick trip down the town and then it happened,clutch went......no pressure on the pedal whatsoever
first inkling is bearing????

so bit of history,bought the van with 146k on her had to replace the clutch at 152k,the clutch allready had the upgraded solid fly wheel but still cost me €800(so 3rd clutch that i no of being put in her) i dont have big loads in her and dont do big mileage so now with less than 15k on her this has happened,i no they have weak clutches but this is a bit much,would anyone have any idea? surely it's not the clutch gone again.....
thanks for looking

George Dalton

It certainly sounds like a problem with the concentric slave cylinder. Was it changed along with the clutch the last time I wonder?

jambofc

George Dalton wrote: »

It certainly sounds like a problem with the concentric slave cylinder. Was it changed along with the clutch the last time I wonder?

had to google concentric slave cylinder

seems that it's only the 6 gear transit that has that fitted but do you think it may be the slave cylinder?

Plug

jambofc wrote: »

had to google concentric slave cylinder

seems that it's only the 6 gear transit that has that fitted but do you think it may be the slave cylinder?

All front wheel drive transits have a concentric release bearing. Enjoy taking the box out or pray that a pipe has burst to it:pac:

jambofc

Plug wrote: »

All front wheel drive transits have a concentric release bearing. Enjoy taking the box out or pray that a pipe has burst to it:pac:

getting confused now,is there a concentric slave cylinder and a concentric bearing on my model or a slave cylinder on the outside of my gearbox and a concentric bearing on the inside?????

George Dalton

The clutch release bearing and the clutch slave cylinder are combined into one part which is called the concentric slave cylinder.

Plug

The slave cylinder and release bearing are the one, thats a concentric release bearing. The older five speed rear wheel drive had an external slave cylinder.

jambofc

thanks lads appreciate the help

im almost positive it was replaced(googled an image)
surely it hasn't gone again allready,as i said i dont carry heavy loads and have done little mileage, unfortunately guarantee is up by 2 months

swhyte027

Painfull painfull painfull oh did I say painfull job.i done Afew of them over they years actually after the last one I did il turn them away from the yard never again.abit of advice pay someone to do it don't try it yourself as I said its horrible would make most mechanics cry

jambofc

swhyte027 wrote: »

Painfull painfull painfull oh did I say painfull job.i done Afew of them over they years actually after the last one I did il turn them away from the yard never again.abit of advice pay someone to do it don't try it yourself as I said its horrible would make most mechanics cry

dont i no it,i allready forked out €800 just over a year ago to have a new clutch put in,but why has it happened again so soon?

fj1200

Can you see fluid leaking from the bottom of the gearbox?

jambofc

fj1200 wrote: »

Can you see fluid leaking from the bottom of the gearbox?

checked this morning and yes there is a leak from the bottom of the gearbox

i suppose this means the concentric slave cylinder is kaput?

Plug

jambofc wrote: »

checked this morning and yes there is a leak from the bottom of the gearbox

i suppose this means the concentric slave cylinder is kaput?

Make sure the leak is not leaking from the top down as it could be a pipe but very very unlikely. Just check to be sure but Im going to say 100% your concentric release bearing is gone. Did they replace that the last time?

jambofc

Plug wrote: »

Make sure the leak is not leaking from the top down as it could be a pipe but very very unlikely. Just check to be sure but Im going to say 100% your concentric release bearing is gone. Did they replace that the last time?

had a good look,leak seems to be from the bottom no sign of wet area up high,i was onto the lad that replaced clutch last time and he says he did replace it but i have my doubts,it is a year and a half since he replaced it but ive done less than 10k so im really pissed off at this.
this is really killing me only spent €600 putting it through it's doe and now this :mad:

jambofc

can i just replace the slave cylinder? (clutch only has 10k on her) it would save a lot of money if i could,slave cylinder can be got for around €70 but complete kit is running between €350/400

jambofc

any opinions on whether i can get away with just replacing the slave cylinder?

Plug

Yeah you can just replace it on its own.

jambofc

Plug wrote: »

Yeah you can just replace it on its own.

brilliant thanks,didnt want to go to a mechanic talking bull

George Dalton

It depends on how much fluid has leaked out of it. Sometimes the clutch can be heavily contaminated with fluid in which case it wouldn't be a good idea to try to re-use it.

jambofc

George Dalton wrote: »

It depends on how much fluid has leaked out of it. Sometimes the clutch can be heavily contaminated with fluid in which case it wouldn't be a good idea to try to re-use it.

fingers crossed it's ok

jambofc

so clutch was ok just the slave cyclinder had to be replaced got a decent price in the end but could have done without the unexpected hit to my wallet.

thanks for the help