320d crankcase breather filter

dharn

is fitting a crankcase breather filter a diy for a reasonably handy person
Car is an 06 320d 163 bhp model

couldntthink

Yes. Have a good look at the new one and you'll know where all the bolts are.

swhyte027

It's easy to do we do them all the time.just take your time and you will be fine.you no where it's located don't u

dharn

ya know where it is, but i believe a lot of engine covers have to be removed then the pollen filter housing and then possibly wiper arm thats the bit that worries me i believe it is difficult to get at

Nissan doctor

dharn wrote: »

ya know where it is, but i believe a lot of engine covers have to be removed then the pollen filter housing and then possibly wiper arm thats the bit that worries me i believe it is difficult to get at

You don't need to remove the wipers. The pollen filter housing is just 3 clips and 4 torx head bolts and it just slides of.

dharn

thanks all will give it a go !

PaulKK

Have a look at this
http://www.bmw-sport.net/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=10

Its for a 136bhp E46 but should be very similar.

I changed it in mine, took me about over an hour the first time.

You should probably also change your air filter while you're at it, a right pain in the arse taking off all those covers!

dharn

thanks paul, the air filter has been done but bmw dont seem to routinely change this filter, i have it serviced at bmw dealer but only recently became aware of the importance of this filter, they wanted 200 in labour +70 for the part so i said feck that ill do it my self

Nissan doctor

dharn wrote: »

thanks paul, the air filter has been done but bmw dont seem to routinely change this filter, i have it serviced at bmw dealer but only recently became aware of the importance of this filter, they wanted 200 in labour +70 for the part so i said feck that ill do it my self

:eek::eek::rolleyes:

dharn

changed the filter today lad not easy but got there in the end

PaulKK

dharn wrote: »

changed the filter today lad not easy but got there in the end

Well done

It gets easier the more you do it, the second time I changed my air filter I was a lot quicker.

You'd be afraid of breaking anything the first time!

dharn

ya when i had all the covers off the airfilter out i thought, how the hell will i remember where all the cover, nuts etc go air filter is a real curse to get back

aujopimur

dharn wrote: »

thanks paul, the air filter has been done but bmw dont seem to routinely change this filter, i have it serviced at bmw dealer but only recently became aware of the importance of this filter, they wanted 200 in labour +70 for the part so i said feck that ill do it my self

I got the filter and the gaskets for €28 in Ottos.

dharn

you mean the full kit for 28 euro ? im Amazed at that

aujopimur

dharn wrote: »

you mean the full kit for 28 euro ? im Amazed at that

Just the little filter and the two gaskets, excluding the housing, which you can reuse,

dharn

they have changed the part, no paper filter anymore its called a vortex filter now, not older type loo roll

Nissan doctor

dharn wrote: »

you mean the full kit for 28 euro ? im Amazed at that

Nothing strange there, as above, its basically just a bit of sponge and 2 rubber gaskets.

aujopimur

The ones for BMW are no longer available, the one I got is labeled Land Rover.

PaulKK

Nissan doctor wrote: »

Nothing strange there, as above, its basically just a bit of sponge and 2 rubber gaskets.

Yea but you shouldn't really use those ones now though should you? Should be using the new vortex valve type (for the 150bhp)?

aujopimur wrote: »

The ones for BMW are no longer available, the one I got is labeled Land Rover.

Pretty sure you still need to use the loo roll one for the 136bhp as the newer type is not compatible with that variant.

aujopimur

PaulKK wrote: »

Yea but you shouldn't really use those ones now though should you? Should be using the new vortex valve type (for the 150bh



Pretty sure you still need to use the loo roll one for the 136bhp as the newer type is not compatible with that variant.

I'm fitting it to a Rover 75, so it should be ok.

dharn

so your post saying you bought one for 28 euro, for a 06 bmw 320d was not very accurate then or very helpful :mad:

aujopimur

I'm sorry for any confusion, I was under the impression that all the TD4 engines used the same type of filter.

TJJP

Here are a few pics from the same job on a 520d. Part and principle is the same; filter location is a bit different. Otherwise it is a very easy job. Part was about €56 from main dealer.

TJJP

pics.

dharn

looks exactly the same as 320 d but then it would it is the same engine, you left out the hard part, removing all the covers, the panel under the pollen filter, the strut brace and the cover for the air filter, after you have gotten that far its dead easy !!

Wheelnut

Anyone know anything about the same filter on the '09 (177hp) version of the 320d? It doesn't look the same, in fact the oil filler tube might be part of it. Does it need changing at all?

TJJP

dharn wrote: »

looks exactly the same as 320 d but then it would it is the same engine, you left out the hard part, removing all the covers, the panel under the pollen filter, the strut brace and the cover for the air filter, after you have gotten that far its dead easy !!

Yeah, that's where I found the camera! (-:

dharn

Wheelnut wrote: »

Anyone know anything about the same filter on the '09 (177hp) version of the 320d? It doesn't look the same, in fact the oil filler tube might be part of it. Does it need changing at all?

dont know what you are talking about, id say the engine on the 09 177 bhp is much the same , you are probably looking at the engine oil filter which of course needs changing

Wheelnut

dharn wrote: »

dont know what you are talking about, id say the engine on the 09 177 bhp is much the same , you are probably looking at the engine oil filter which of course needs changing

I don't know what sort of a moron you think I am, here's what I'm talking about:








Does that look like an oil filter to you?

dharn

sorry for upsetting you chief, that engine looks completely different to mine as you can see from my op i am an enthusiastic armature, but i managed to change the filter anyway, is that a 320d, i dont recognize any thing in those photos

Wheelnut

dharn wrote: »

sorry for upsetting you chief, that engine looks completely different ...

No Problem. Yes it is a 320d, E90, 2009, 177hp and type N47 engine I believe.

The air filter has been moved and is now a panel filter in an air box on the wing. The breather is still in the same place (compare the location of the leak-off pipe at the top of the second picture) but the shape is different. The oil filler (not filter ) is also moved and may be part of the breather housing now, you can see a tubular piece running from the breather filter housing towards the filler neck in the second picture. It has obviously been redesigned and the question is does it still benefit from an occasional change like the old one.

aujopimur

I'm not a BMW expert, but the later type engines have the newer type vortex filter which never needs changing, famous last words but time will tell.

dharn

it is the vortex type i replaced, and it is recommended that they be changed also but not as frequently as on the pre 05 model

dharn

Wheelnut wrote: »

No Problem. Yes it is a 320d, E90, 2009, 177hp and type N47 engine I believe.

The air filter has been moved and is now a panel filter in an air box on the wing. The breather is still in the same place (compare the location of the leak-off pipe at the top of the second picture) but the shape is different. The oil filler (not filter ) is also moved and may be part of the breather housing now, you can see a tubular piece running from the breather filter housing towards the filler neck in the second picture. It has obviously been redesigned and the question is does it still benefit from an occasional change like the old one.

ya , im surprised at the amount of changes for what looked like a facelift model, im thinking of changing up to an 09 model, how do you like yours, some say the effecient dynamic. stop start stuff ruins a good engine, any comments on the 09

Wheelnut

The only other BMW I ever owned was an E36 coupe. That was a hobby thing and it was showing its age. I bought the 320d when it was 6 months old and I can't see what the fuss is about. OK, nothing has gone wrong, but I have intermittant clutch judder on hill starts and there's a rattle in the dash both of which don't happen when I go to the dealer. The gearbox is stiff, the clutch can be difficult and the engine is too "strong" at idle, so the car can jump forward in traffic if you're not careful. The stop/start thing is unpleasant because the engine jumps and knocks whenever it stops or starts so I press the over-ride button when I'm in town. On the plus side the car has been reliable, comfortable, fast and economical on juice. In summary: nice car but no big deal. Certainly terms like "joy" and "driving machine" are nonsense. I'm sorry that I didn't buy a Honda Accord diesel. There's one in the "family fleet" and it is better built, stronger, better equiped and more practial.

Nissan doctor

Wheelnut wrote: »

The only other BMW I ever owned was an E36 coupe. That was a hobby thing and it was showing its age. I bought the 320d when it was 6 months old and I can't see what the fuss is about. OK, nothing has gone wrong, but I have intermittant clutch judder on hill starts and there's a rattle in the dash both of which don't happen when I go to the dealer. The gearbox is stiff, the clutch can be difficult and the engine is too "strong" at idle, so the car can jump forward in traffic if you're not careful. The stop/start thing is unpleasant because the engine jumps and knocks whenever it stops or starts so I press the over-ride button when I'm in town. On the plus side the car has been reliable, comfortable, fast and economical on juice. In summary: nice car but no big deal. Certainly terms like "joy" and "driving machine" are nonsense. I'm sorry that I didn't buy a Honda Accord diesel. There's one in the "family fleet" and it is better built, stronger, better equiped and more practial.

Wow...A BMW owner giving a realistic, non biased, non blinded by the badge and sales hype review of ownership, complete with unfavourable comparison to a 'lesser' car.


Has to be a first!:eek::P