Would you like to see Conor O'Shea at Munster?

yupyup7up

Just looking at what he is doing at Quins, I reckon he could be an excellent coach at Munster. He knows what he is talking about and might bring in a more dynamic element to our backs play. And plus, he's from Limerick so he's homegrown too

McGahan is doing ok I suppose, but we could do with a bit more flair about the team!

What do you think?

phog

Is he available, does he want the job?

Big Nelly

No I wouldn't like to see him at Munster, would like to see him in Ireland job, Munster can take Kidney back!!

Otacon

He's a young, talented guy with an eye for young talent - of course he would be welcomed at Munster.

Not sure he has the experience yet for international rugby but if we do not get at least a Triple Crown from this Six Nations, then a changing of the guard before the summer tour would be ideal IMO.

buck65

Isn't he director of rugby or some other title, surley a stint of a coach needed before we know how good he is.
To me he's a decent pundit who helps run rugby clubs. Not a coach per se. Yet.

ray jay

Quin's form has faltered lately, it would be worth seeing if they can turn things around before declaring O'Shea the second coming. That said, he's done good work so far and it would be nice to see talent like that come back home sooner rather than later.

buck65

Big Nelly wrote: »

No I wouldn't like to see him at Munster, would like to see him in Ireland job, Munster can take Kidney back!!

Ho ho ho , great craic.

bleg

I think we have a good coach in McGahan and he has signed on for another term. I'm pretty happy with that to be honest.

Rattlehead_ie

buck65 wrote: »

Isn't he director of rugby or some other title

Director of Rugby is the new professional name for coach it would seem. There is an assistant coach there in Quinns, but O'Shea is the guy that calls the shots just like Schmidt and McGahan.

I'll be honest I like the guy and I do believe he wants an Irish job at some stage whether it be province or country (I'd take Country if I was a betting man).

The issue that I have is that as ray jay said, they have faltered as of late and there dominance in the English premiership was wavered. I believe this is mainly due to the other teams around them getting their Internationals back, they took advantage of this at the start of the season, and the internationals are now integrated into the squads. Its now come to the crunch "man up" stage where your guys with experience and Int caps earn their wages.

That being said...... what he has done as a whole for the club with regards to turning it around after "bloodgate" and developing young talent is proof that as a man manager and leader he has a lot of potential as a coach and eventually would be happy to see him as head coach for Ireland.`

EDIT: Just to note the reason I have the above in bold is that a lot of people on here, the forum not thread, seem to forget that a coach just doesn't coach, he has to manage the team a long with his backroom staff. Its an important thing in the modern day game and although Declan Kidney gets some bashing off this forum from some, I believe Kidneys man management skills i.e giving players around him the belief they can win is what makes him an effective coach, not the best, but a dam good one.

[Jackass]

yupyup7up wrote: »

Just looking at what he is doing at Quins, I reckon he could be an excellent coach at Munster. He knows what he is talking about and might bring in a more dynamic element to our backs play. And plus, he's from Limerick so he's homegrown too

McGahan is doing ok I suppose, but we could do with a bit more flair about the team!

What do you think?

He's actually from Leinster and grew up and played and learnt all his rugby here. He's as much a Limerick man as Ronan O'Gara is a San Diego man or Jamie Heaslip is an Israeli. (if we're going to go by place of birth). But that's neither here or there.

I wouldn't like to see him at Munster for the simple reason that I'd like to see him coach Ireland. But he would be a superb coach if Munster could get him.

Big Nelly

ray jay wrote: »

Quin's form has faltered lately, it would be worth seeing if they can turn things around before declaring O'Shea the second coming. That said, he's done good work so far and it would be nice to see talent like that come back home sooner rather than later.

Small squad and they have played a lot of games. Will be interesting to see them against Connacht tonight. Last match I seen them play was against Saracens and Toulouse, both match's they played well.

flyingoutside

Would like to see him take over Ireland in the future. Think he would be perfect for it.

Quint2010

[Jackass] wrote: »

He's actually from Leinster and grew up and played and learnt all his rugby here. He's as much a Limerick man as Ronan O'Gara is a San Diego man or Jamie Heaslip is an Israeli. (if we're going to go by place of birth). But that's neither here or there.

I wouldn't like to see him at Munster for the simple reason that I'd like to see him coach Ireland. But he would be a superb coach if Munster could get him.

100% correct. I went to school and played rugby with him in Terenure College

willit

Quint2010 wrote: »

[QUOTE='[Jackass];76623384']He's actually from Leinster and grew up and played and learnt all his rugby here

The O'Shea family is originally from Kerry so he's not Limerick at all ;-)

On a serious note, what Munster really need is not a head coach but a backs coach that is willing to get the backs playing rugby. With Earls (Ireland's best finisher but not a centre in any way), Murray, Keatley, Jones, Zebo, Barnes, O'Dea, Scanlon, Hanrahan all either in or coming through they need a backs coach in the Joe Schmidt mould to ensure that we aren't asking in 5 years what happened to the Munster backs that were supposed to be coming through. These guys have the potential but without a decent backs coach could end up in obscurity. I think McGahan must be doing something right to say that these players, as well as the Nagle's, POM's, DOC 2.0's, Butler's etc. are coming through so I don't think we need to looking for his replacement just yet. Just my opinion of course.

its_phil

Would he come back though? He seems settled in England after being there for over 15 years. He's never left London either since he's moved over there, unless you count Reading but that's not far away.Read he has a child over there as well so it might not be in his personal interest to leave.

And could Munster players look past him as a pundit?

I'd love to see him move back over though, I think he's got one of the brightest coaching minds in Europe and Harlequins play a lovely style of rugby.

CatFromHue

You have to remember with O'Shea is that he works for RTE. In doing so he gets a lot of good PR that other coaches wouldn't or don't get.

I don't want to be seen to be knocking the guy but when Dean Richards left Quins they had made the HEC QF's and came second in the league of the Aviva. O Shea inherited a pretty good team, granted they were under a big dark cloud at the time. Some of the players that were under both O Shea and Richards are Robshaw, Skinner, Easter, Care, Evans, Turner Hall, Monye, Brown, and Robson. That's a very good spine of a team right there.

yupyup7up

Yeah McGahan is doing well enough, but I'd like to see an injection of flair into our back and open play.

Yeah I know he was raised in Dublin or whatever, but he was born in Limerick. I'm clinging onto that the same way we claim Steve Finnan as a Limerick man.

He's a young coach and I reckon that if he done well as Munster coach, then that would open up the window for the national team job.

Cpt_Blackbeard

He's much more of a facilitator than a handson coach but, that said, I can't think of anyone who wouldn't love to see him involved. He'll probably need to get involved in Irish rugby before he is in the running for the Irish job and he'd be welcomed with open arms.

It'd give our beloved conspiracy theorists some material to slew out whenever there is a Munster players selected for the national team too. Everybody's a winner.

ray jay

ray jay wrote: »

Quin's form has faltered lately, it would be worth seeing if they can turn things around before declaring O'Shea the second coming.

See!

justsomebloke

ray jay wrote: »

See!

I was waiting to see who would be first to reply to this thread

PhatPiggins

ray jay wrote: »

See!

Shock horror a breakout of self fellatio :eek:

I suppose that result makes him a bad coach now?

Tox56

On a cold, windy Sportsground, that style of rugby with those players was always going to be a challenge.

bleg

Tox56 wrote: »

On a cold, windy Sportsground, that style of rugby with those players was always going to be a challenge.

Nah, he chose the wrong group of 52 players from day 1. Having one or two different players in the squad would have made a huge difference. :pac::pac::pac::pac:

chooochooo

Connor O'Shea should be brough back to Munster to face charges for being smug.

maddness

No. Irish coach would be nice.

Jedwardian

I don't see how Conor O'Shea's record is any better than Tony McGahan's. O'Shea has won an Amlin Cup. McGahan has won two Magners League and qualified for two Heineken Cup semi finals.

O'Shea is a promising coach but I'd like to see how he does over a longer peroid, say 2 or 3 more seasons, before annointing him as a potential new Munster or Ireland coach.