cz 550fs any opinions?

Longranger

Hi lads, was holding a cz550fs in 6.5 swedish this evening. I've always had a thing for full stocks, and the calibre is a cracker. I got a great offer of the rifle and a S&B 8x42(german),can't say the exact price out loud but it's a few hundred below retail for the package. What do ye think?

Tackleberrywho

Longranger wrote: »

Hi lads, was holding a cz550fs in 6.5 swedish this evening. I've always had a thing for full stocks, and the calibre is a cracker. I got a great offer of the rifle and a S&B 8x42(german),can't say the exact price out loud but it's a few hundred below retail for the package. What do ye think?

My understanding is any full stock gives problems when out in mixed weathers as the timber can cause loss of Zero from warping.

I always liked them myself, however upon advisement I never bought one.

Longranger

I heard that too, but I know a lad with a full stock 452 22lr and he's had it for about 5 years and I know he uses it a few times a week. He's always singing its praises, and he doesn't miss many shots. Maybe the people who have had trouble with the stock warping haven't been looking after the rifle properly.

Tackleberrywho

Longranger wrote: »

I heard that too, but I know a lad with a full stock 452 22lr and he's had it for about 5 years and I know he uses it a few times a week. He's always singing its praises, and he doesn't miss many shots. Maybe the people who have had trouble with the stock warping haven't been looking after the rifle properly.

Well, 6.5 in that config is a hunting calibre.
Stalking involves damp and wet conditions. Stock gets damp and POI changes.
There is a reason the design was abandoned in favour of sporting free floating stocks

Longranger

Maybe so, I'm not saying your wrong but 8 out of 10 days in the west are damp and/or wet and the lad I know with a fs has never had trouble, and like I said, he shoots it a few days every week.

ssl

I had that rifle in .308 but i didnt shoot it enough In all weather conditions to notice any change. Hunidity in ireland isalways prity high.
You'll always get a great deal on them as dealers find it impossible to shift as they can't be moderated them unless you cut the timber back.
Great rifle.
I've seen a full stocked rifle online that the the muzzle end can be separated. The stock at the forend is seperated by a small piece of steel. This may allow for expansion and allows for the fitting of a mod. I'll try find the photo

ssl

Here's a good write up on the rifle from the shooting times


http://www.shootingtimes.com/2011/01/03/longgun_reviews_cz550_080307/

Longranger

ssl wrote: »

I had that rifle in .308 but i didnt shoot it enough In all weather conditions to notice any change. Hunidity in ireland isalways prity high.
You'll always get a great deal on them as dealers find it impossible to shift as they can't be moderated them unless you cut the timber back.
Great rifle.
I've seen a full stocked rifle online that the the muzzle end can be separated. The stock at the forend is seperated by a small piece of steel. This may allow for expansion and allows for the fitting of a mod. I'll try find the photo

I'm glad you liked it. Everyone is telling me I'm nuts to buy it,mainly for the reason you mentioned about the mod,but to be honest, if I wanted a moderated rifle I wouldn't be looking at this one. I know some of will probably think I'm being stupid but a mod would ruin the look of this gun. The only thing that will go on it is a nice hand-stitched leather strap and a piece of top notch glass. As I mentioned, if I wanted a typical modern stalking rifle it would be a tikka t3 or a steyr pro Hunter,with all the trimmings. But there's something about this one that makes me feel like I really,really want it:D

rowa

i'm sure if you floated the barrel from the end of the action onwards with plenty of clearance between barrel and wood and sealed it well with a quality varnish the wood wouldn't move much and if push came to shove you could get a replacement stock of the normal short type.

meathstevie

Would I be correct in saying that strong fluctuations in humidity would cause the POI to shift more than a stable high level of humidity and unless we're talking a cracker of a summer humidity levels in Ireland are always rather high.

Also aren't stocks made of treated hardwood preventing them from absorbing relatively large quantities of water from the air ?

Tackleberrywho

meathstevie wrote: »

Would I be correct in saying that strong fluctuations in humidity would cause the POI to shift more than a stable high level of humidity and unless we're talking a cracker of a summer humidity levels in Ireland are always rather high.

Also aren't stocks made of treated hardwood preventing them from absorbing relatively large quantities of water from the air ?

It's called rain.
We all have shelled out top Dolla for our free floating Devcon and Pillar bedding to make atmospheric variations not a major concern for our firearms, nevermind barrel harmonics.

I could walk across a mountain and have sun splitting the stones on one side, and heavy fog on the other.
I'm not talking about hPa. I'm talking about Timber being porous and prone to expansion and contraction.
Not a major issue for some, but most try to keep everything constant, so there are less things to consider when taking a shot.

Styer made a few, so did Krico.
I remember them being popular in 6.5 around 12 or 14 years ago.
I was damn close to buying one myself.

I saw how the Swedish Mauser I had was affected by weather. That's why I went all weather and never looked back.

dwighet

Dude.....Lovely rifle...
Dont get caught up in all the ****e talk about humidity and full length stocks...

The main thing is if your happy and the rifle can hit the vitals....Happy days...

Throw up a pic of it....I`d like to see it..

All the best.

clivej

If this is the rifle your talking about the only problems I can see are the extra weight of carrying a full stock and that stock is designed for open/iron sights, as fitted, 'cos it falls away from the cheek. Is it a 'Hogs Back' stock????

Other than that if you like it then get it end of story.

And Dwighet had that CZ 550 rifle in 65x55 but with the American stock lovely to shoot and came up to the cheek real nice.

ssl

This is the one I had



There's only about 6 inches of thin timber extra at the end which is only a about a dozen grames of extra weight.
But what this rifle has is an extremely thin barrell. After 5 shots your point of impact drops by inches so forget about competitions. And that's not even shooting superformance. Floating it could stop this. Undo 3 screws and get busy with a dowel and a bit of sand paper and it's floating

4gun

I have the 550 delux in 308 and they are excellant stalking rifles,
As far as I know about the full stock version is the stock doesn't contact the barrel untill the very end.
I hav no problem shooting deer with mine before I free floated the barrel, floating give greater consistancy in groups
If this is your preferance in a deer rifle by all means go for it.
All the best on your purchase

dwighet

I have a stock for a cz 550 6.5x55 you can have...its been laying under the bed for 3 years...Its a monte carlo style....

If you want it you can have it...its no good to me now...

Longranger

Nice one mate:D. Could be very handy. I'll have to sort you out with something for it though.

The Big Fella

If push comes to shove stick a half stock on her and youl have a craicing stalking rifle.;) My cz may not look pretty but shes a great work horse.:D

323

dwighet wrote: »

Dude.....Lovely rifle...
Dont get caught up in all the ****e talk about humidity and full length stocks...

The main thing is if your happy and the rifle can hit the vitals....Happy days...

All the best.

+1

Friend has a similar mauser actioned custom, shot it in all weather sun, rain, snow, misses very little, scope was only ever moved for different ammo. (althought it's never been on a target range)

A classic "hunting" rifle, looks great, very nicely balanced, as for the weight thing, still less than that of adding a hideous looking moderator, on a half stock.

All the best

dwighet

Longranger wrote: »

Nice one mate:D. Could be very handy. I'll have to sort you out with something for it though.

I dont want anything for it...If you want it pm me an address and I will post it out to ya...:cool:

deerhunter1

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

My understanding is any full stock gives problems when out in mixed weathers as the timber can cause loss of Zero from warping.

I always liked them myself, however upon advisement I never bought one.

Agree though you can be lucky, I had steyr mannlicher full stock delux in 270, a beauty too look at, broke my friggin balls:(, paid a lot of money for it, took me years to get one, you would zero it go hunting, fire at a deer they would walk away, re-zero same thing, took it back to Gerry Scully (RIP) sent it back to steyr (;) so i was told, they said stock was touching barrel, which caused the shots to go everywhere, said they would replace rifle, virtually told them where to stick it, got my money back and bought a standard rifle. A beauty too admire but not good for a bit of rough and tumble. Just my tuppence worth.:)

Longranger

Thanks everyone for the replies and advice. Deposit paid! I can't pick it up without wanting to run out the door with it so roll on september:D
BTW,the single set trigger is LOVELY!!!!!
Thinking about getting one for the hmr:)