2 cars, same engine, different road tax?

finbarrk

2010 Mitsubishi Outlander, 2.0d VW engine, 140bhp, road tax is €600+
2010 Skoda Superb, same engine and the tax is €303.
Can someone explain this?

andyseadog

despite both being a 2.0 they're pulling two very different cars so are probably tuned differently and thus producing different levels of emissions.

CharlieCroker

Co2 emissions.

The outlander puts out more as it's heavier and has a blockier, less aerodynamic shape than the Superb and as a result uses more fuel and produces more Co2 per km.

EPM

They may not be the exact same engine either. The Superb could also be a CR as opposed to a PD.

Nissan doctor

One is a 4wd SUV, the other is a car.

Weight, gearing, 4wd, wheel size, ecu map etc etc will all effect the CO2 output.

All cars that are 2008 or newer have their road tax calculated based on the cars CO2 emissions.

Reloc8

2 cars, different engine, different road tax.

Nissan doctor

Reloc8 wrote: »

2 cars, different engine, different road tax.

The both use the same engine is his point.

But as said, 2 completely different types of vehicle so CO2 outputs are not comparable between the two.

Yakuza

Same thing in the Qashqai / Qashqai+2 - the pre facelift models both had the K9K 1.5 dci engine, but the +2 is heavier so its emissions were 149g/km and the 5-seater's were 139, so were in different bands.

Off topic - just picked up my 12D petrol QQ+2 - it's so much quieter than the diesel - the joys of driving a petrol again

Nissan doctor

Yakuza wrote: »

Same thing in the Qashqai / Qashqai+2 - the pre facelift models both had the K9K 1.5 dci engine, but the +2 is heavier so its emissions were 149g/km and the 5-seater's were 139, so were in different bands.

Off topic - just picked up my 12D petrol QQ+2 - it's so much quieter than the diesel - the joys of driving a petrol again

You bought a petrol engine in 2012!! Nice to see not everyone is a sheep these days.

Yakuza

Nissan doctor wrote: »

You bought a petrol engine in 2012!! Nice to see not everyone is a sheep these days.

Props to Nissan; they tweaked the engine so it's in Band C now (adding stop/start and whatnot), so I'm not too fearful of its resale value in a few year's time. Also I've got an engine that is much better suited to the majority of driving I'm doing (6km spins each way to work) without having to worry about the DPF, the DMF or any of that modern diesel guff.

(Apologies to OP for the derail).

bazz26

They are two different engines. The Outlander used the old PD engine up until it received a facelift whereas the Superb uses the newer lower emmisions CR unit.

As already said even if they had the same engine both vehicles have totally different dimensions, weight and performance which effect their emmissions.

Gumbo

Its the same in the case of the BMW 530d and BMW X5 3.0d.
Same engines, but the whole package together produces more CO2 in the X5.

Based on E70 and E60 models, as im not sure about the F10.

finbarrk

Ok, thanks for explaining that to me lads.

Guy:Incognito

finbarrk wrote: »

Ok, thanks for explaining that to me lads.

While we're explaining stuff https://www.motortax.ie/

dingding

I had an odd one, I have an imported BMW 118D and the car has emissions of 121kg while the Irish cars have an emission of 119KG, cost me a bit extra to import and the tax is about 50 euro per year more.

When I looked into it depending on the week the cars were maunufactured in the UK they had different ratings.

I think it was to do with the types of tyres fitted.