Cattle with lice

24_7

Just wondering if any of you are having trouble with lice on the cattle this year. Have put pour-on on them a couple of times and they're still scratching and licking. Have been told to try tack-tick so its next plan of attack, think its diluted in water and sprayed on, anyone use it.
Havent shaved any backs or anything but clipped a bit with scissors before I applied the pour-on. Never seen them as bad.

6480

if u shave their backs its half the battle for starters

limo_100

if there young cattle treat them with ivomac super works well and does the works for you aswel. and if there older ivomac pour on is good and its cheap

Krico22

Did anyone ever try treating cattle with sheep dip for lice? i know a man that does it and he wouldnt dream of using anything other than sheep dip.

roosky

i started clipping this year with the electric sheep shears ....it the only job way ahead of the cattle clippers and cut hair off the tail, back and width of thier shoulders .......they say that lice live in the heat of the back so if the hair is gone the heat is gone and bye bye lice !!

blue5000

How big are the cattle? A cheapie avermectin (poorman's ivomec) worked for me earlier on this winter.

lab man

how much money would an elec sheep shears cost btw

Birdnuts

The neighbours simmental crosses got a bad dose earlier this month - owner put it down to the exceptionall mild winter so far.

leg wax

Birdnuts wrote: »

The neighbours simmental crosses got a bad dose earlier this month - owner put it down to the exceptionall mild winter so far.

my cattle on the video are destroyed with lice and have now done them a 3rd time but its too late.on 1st nov they got biamectin plus endo spec, 20th dec endo spec and yesterday spot on, bald patchs on a lot of them bloody fumeing going to mart on 4th of feb.:mad:

MfMan

Very difficult to eradicate lice. I've dosed mine with a wormer (forget name) and sprayed them with Taktik (dear stuff enough c. €80 per litre). They might give short term relief but cattle are always scratching and when they're all housed together they'll eventually spread the tics anyway; therefore you may as well do them all besides just doing some. Taktic can also be used as sheep dip and is a bit like the old Tixol you used to get.

mallethead

A Neighbour uses sheep dip
don't mix it to strong
It works very quickly cattle stop scratching by the next day and it last about a month six weeks before you do them again
Normally uses a watering can to pour a long their back from head to tail
Tried pour ons, injections dip gave best results

24_7

Thanks for feedback. I usually keep the weanlings but I sold them this year so I only have cows now which are calving and the calves are licking and kicking at themselves and a couple of bulls.
After housing they were done with a pour-on that does lice and worms etc, then about 4 weeks ago i done them again with a spot-on or pour-on.
like someone elses they're getting baldy patchs from it and so i want to try and eliminate it. Also heard that the weather is playing its part.
Might try the clippers and either tacktic or sheep dip. Should I clip the young calves ranging from 1week to 6week old or just wash them.

Muckit

roosky wrote: »

i started clipping this year with the electric sheep shears ....it the only job way ahead of the cattle clippers and cut hair off the tail, back and width of thier shoulders .......they say that lice live in the heat of the back so if the hair is gone the heat is gone and bye bye lice !!

Is it a heiniger clippers you have roosky? Do you know if the sheep head will fit onto an ordinary cattle clippers?

I've a heiniger 'handy' clippers

bbam

As far as I know most treatments only tackle sucking lice and have little effect on biting lice.
Might be worth ensuring the treatment specifically treats biting lice.

I saw in years gone by if my father was short of a bob he'd use hydrated lime on them indoors only. He reckoned if it was well brushed in it was a good releif but I can't really comment as I'd only have been a nipper at the time.

roosky

ya a heiniger eh im not sure if it will fit the cattle clippers....i have the sheep head for shearing sheep...


and about the calves i clipped all the calves aswel

Muckit

roosky wrote: »

ya a heiniger eh im not sure if it will fit the cattle clippers....i have the sheep head for shearing sheep...


and about the calves i clipped all the calves aswel

OK. Can you tell me does the sheep clippers clip them tight to the skin? The cattle clippers I have scalps them (well down to 2-3mm!)

thanks roosky

milkprofit

On ther clippers use fine- or coarse blades

roosky

Muckit wrote: »

OK. Can you tell me does the sheep clippers clip them tight to the skin? The cattle clippers I have scalps them (well down to 2-3mm!)

thanks roosky

no it doesnt leave the skint just tightly think of a sheep after shearing like they are not bald !!!.....now i just have 2/3 stripes down the back and dont expose the kidney area etc.

Donnelly24

Hi folks I have a young weanling that has abad dose of lice and has warts on his neck what treatment is the strongest to eradicate it .

Cultie

Subcutaneous products will only kill sucking lice. A pour on is required for biting lice.

Most treatments require a further treatment 10 days later as it takes 10 days for eggs to hatch. Products will not kill eggs.

Essentially lice treatment will only reduce the population as they are also living in the sheds environment eg in dry dung on walks or gates/cubicles.

To eliminate problem as effectively s possible power wash houses and disinfect before housing. Treat all cattle before housing and at housing for lice to reduce the population enering the house.

Cattle being underfed or stored during the winter will be affected most by these parasites.

Donnelly24

Would u find taktic a good treatment I have to treat some cattle tomorrow will ask vet to be on safe side

Cultie

I would use dectomax.

buffalobilly

Tactic is a great product what we do here is fill a barell with water 1/2 litre of tactic and use power washer give them a good soaking barell of water should do 20 animals repeat after 2 weeks would be expensive enough with the 2 treatments costing about €3 per animal but it is the only one that works for us here. Tried all the pour ons and none worked for us.

spik r

Put builders lime on them I tried it this year great job .just went on to slats with bucket and small shovel threw it over them was quick and easy best I've used so far

mancity1

does the sheep dip thing really work? what about louse powder(spelling) that is used on horses would this be any good?

Bellview

6480 wrote: »

if u shave their backs its half the battle for starters

bit late this year but do you only shave across the back or how far down the sides would you shave

eeeee

mancity1 wrote: »

does the sheep dip thing really work? what about louse powder(spelling) that is used on horses would this be any good?

The stuff for horses is useless, it's not as strong at all. We use ivomec, injected this year great job.
Killed with ringworm though. The father has a branch if holly over the slats, supposed to ward it off. It's been about as useful as a dead branch on the roof! Next stop burnt oil.

Bodacious

gadetra wrote: »

The stuff for horses is useless, it's not as strong at all. We use ivomec, injected this year great job.
Killed with ringworm though. The father has a branch if holly over the slats, supposed to ward it off. It's been about as useful as a dead branch on the roof! Next stop burnt oil.

I agree on shaving the backs but as mine are out wintered it's not an option

Done mine with ivermectin couple of times and still licking like crazy ... Bald patches on neck from sheer persistent scratching .. Got dry day and got a 2x20ml syringes of Youngs Pour On and with syringe leave it in between hair right in the skin and I think it's worked ..

Done neighbours 4 housed bullocks with spot on before found it useless .. They nearly pulled chains out of the wall with lice and mange ... Again 40ml of Youngs and with mange it says to put it on exposed/bald patches.... 2 days and they stopped red patches on neck turned pink, licking stopped and general coat health much improved so thumbs up for Youngs over cheap ivermectin injection .. Possibly combination of both would be best

Bodacious

done my cows with Spotinor pour oncontaining delamethrin on January 29th.. had to do them again there last Friday as were going mental with lice.. hammering the ring feeders/ gates/ walls!!




I went with 40ml of Youngs pour on... one young cow has had some sort of reaction as has gone completely bald phone book size patches on both rumps!!


rubbed half tub of sudocream into her as was red raw


anyone else suffering bad with lice

Kovu

Bodacious wrote: »

anyone else suffering bad with lice

I heard Reggie got a dose of them....;)


We do all ours before going out and upon coming in so twice a year with Butox. Haven't seen lice in years now. Helps if the cattle are in good nick too. Would there be any truth to the myth that they prefer white cattle or is it just that they're easier seen? Have no light coloured cattle at all now.

Mad4simmental

Had a few fairly bad before Christmas and I used Animec super injection on them. They had lost hair ect like yours and were scratching off gates like mad. Two days after the injection we had zero scratching and hair growing back after a week. They are perfect still.

Reggie.

Kovu wrote: »

I heard Reggie got a dose of them....;)


We do all ours before going out and upon coming in so twice a year with Butox. Haven't seen lice in years now. Helps if the cattle are in good nick too. Would there be any truth to the myth that they prefer white cattle or is it just that they're easier seen? Have no light coloured cattle at all now.

Its nothing to be laughed at. There's only so much scratching off a king post will do for ya :P

red bull

Was a sceptic, but saw hydrated lime being used.Perfect job, plus cheap. Just run a line of it along the backs

Muckit

Cattle only in 3 weeks here. Is it a problem. With cattle in a while now? Usually spring when it's an issue

greysides

Muckit wrote: »

Cattle only in 3 weeks here. Is it a problem. With cattle in a while now? Usually spring when it's an issue

I don't think cattle will escape being affected by lice so I'd prefer to see them done at housing, when the numbers to be controlled are low, rather than a while after housing when the numbers have multiplied. Allied with clipping the backs before application a better job is done.

Bass Reeves

Problem is you have to do them twice 14 days apart. Ivermectin pouron can act as one AFAIK. Ivermectin injectin will cover sucking lice and mites only while pouron will do sucking and biteing lice.