I will win more majors: Harrington

The_Kew_Tour

I think the next couple of years will tell a lot as to if these comments will be the case.

Personally I hope he is right. Love for him to win the Masters, but US Open maybe his best bet.

http://www.rte.ie/sport/golf/2012/0118/harringtonp.html

jmorrisey

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

I think the next couple of years will tell a lot as to if these comments will be the case.

Personally I hope he is right. Love for him to win the Masters, but US Open maybe his best bet.

http://www.rte.ie/sport/golf/2012/0118/harringtonp.html

Agree wholeheartedly the 2022 british senior open is his for the taking

Deco1983

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

I think the next couple of years will tell a lot as to if these comments will be the case.

Personally I hope he is right. Love for him to win the Masters, but US Open maybe his best bet.

http://www.rte.ie/sport/golf/2012/0118/harringtonp.html

He'll be playing off 12 in 2 years...you watch

downthemiddle

Deco1983 wrote: »

He'll be playing off 12 in 2 years...you watch

Are you suggesting he has applied for reinstatement as an amateur? Where did you get this information?

Deco1983

downthemiddle wrote: »

Are you suggesting he has applied for reinstatement as an amateur? Where did you get this information?

I'll be straight up with you,Down the middle?? - I'm merely suggesting that he is a bit ****e,thats all.

Dr.Silly

oh lord, not another effin harrington thread :mad:

jmorrisey

Dr.Silly wrote: »

oh lord, not another effin harrington thread :mad:

Fair point....Its been a long long time since padreeag has shown any worthwhile form and add to the fact that he won two of his three majors in weakened fields, we'd be as well to start a ronan rafferty thread

FixdePitchmark

I'd say he is worth 5 euro E/W for the next 18 months to win something he enters. (tip).

jmorrisey

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

I'd say he is worth 5 euro E/W for the next 18 months to win something he enters. (tip).

intermediate scratch cups?

FixdePitchmark

jmorrisey wrote: »

intermediate scratch cups?

Watch , he works too hard not to turn it around. A new head coach, a talk with Daren, a trip to Vegas with Tiger. You see.

This new coach can't go much worse. But I'll be trying to catch him at the high odds. 5 euro e/w at about 40 /1.

Deco1983

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

I'd say he is worth 5 euro E/W for the next 18 months to win something he enters. (tip).

The Burgers Lowry Invitational 2012

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jmorrisey wrote: »

Fair point....Its been a long long time since padreeag has shown any worthwhile form and add to the fact that he won two of his three majors in weakened fields, we'd be as well to start a ronan rafferty thread

Weakened fields? :rolleyes:

jmorrisey

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Watch , he works too hard not to turn it around. A new head coach, a talk with Daren, a trip to Vegas with Tiger. You see.

This new coach can't go much worse. But I'll be trying to catch him at the high odds. 5 euro e/w at about 40 /1.

or more likely he works (and thinks) too hard to ever turn it around. When you compare the simplicity of the overall game of Rory Mclroy from tee to green with the painstaking navigation of Pauric on a golf course over the last few years, its very hard to see a way back for a player heading into his mid forties. Put simply the game has moved on from mechanical dinosaurs like paddy

FixdePitchmark

I' d say Paddy will be sticking some of these posts on the wall of his trophy room. I know all the jokes , plenty of room ...................

But watch, I had Clarke in British Open. Love it.

jmorrisey

If he does come back do you think the major tv networks are ready for final rounds of 7 hours or more at the expense of premium primetime shows like House and Homeland

FixdePitchmark

jmorrisey wrote: »

If he does come back do you think the major tv networks are ready for final rounds of 7 hours or more at the expense of premium primetime shows like House and Homeland

Ah, he would do your head in watching him. But a nice bloke.

But as someone said, this is old old ground. I'll wait and see and let you know when I have about 300 quid in my hand.

Well, once I dont have to back him for 18mths. But worth a punt for a laugh .

jmorrisey

Anyhow of the Irish contingent (mcilroy aside) I think Lowry is ready to make an impact this season. After a Rocky start to his pro career there were signs at the end of the year that he was beginning to turn the corner. A much more naturally talented player than Padraig I hope he manages to find some consistency this season. If he does then the skys the limit

jmorrisey

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Ah, he would do your head in watching him. But a nice bloke.

But as someone said, this is old old ground. I'll wait and see and let you know when I have about 300 quid in my hand.

Well, once I dont have to back him for 18mths. But worth a punt for a laugh .

Fair enough, best of luck with it. From my point of view your just adding another pension levy deduction from your wages but each to their own

FixdePitchmark

jmorrisey wrote: »

or more likely he works (and thinks) too hard to ever turn it around. When you compare the simplicity of the overall game of Rory Mclroy from tee to green with the painstaking navigation of Pauric on a golf course over the last few years, its very hard to see a way back for a player heading into his mid forties. Put simply the game has moved on from mechanical dinosaurs like paddy

He is only 40, agree time is running out, but has another few wins in him,

I said Clarke was a one hit wonder here, due to age etc. Nearly got the head taken off me........... People like Clarke, Paddy has 3 times the majors. Sorry old ground.

But Paddy is younger in good shape. If he is working hard , to get the head right is easier then working as hard as he does.

My view. Will back him for the laugh. He has won before and that helps with winning. We will see.

The only problem his odds will fall fast (if he has a top ten) due to the Paddy Power taking the piss factor.

jmorrisey

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

The only problem his odds will fall fast (if he has a top ten) due to the Paddy Power taking the piss factor.

Youve plenty options other than Paddy Power anyway. Dont worry getting odds wont be an issue. To be honest id be more hopeful of my pension levy winning at 40/1 than Harrington

FixdePitchmark

jmorrisey wrote: »

Youve plenty options other than Paddy Power anyway. Dont worry getting odds wont be an issue. To be honest id be more hopeful of my pension levy winning at 40/1 than Harrington

We will see. All I need is for him to pick up a handy one in Europe.

jmorrisey

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

We will see. All I need is for him to pick up a handy one in Europe.

The Optical Express Invitational

The_Kew_Tour

Deco1983 wrote: »

He'll be playing off 12 in 2 years...you watch

Deco1983 wrote: »

I'll be straight up with you,Down the middle?? - I'm merely suggesting that he is a bit ****e,thats all.

jmorrisey wrote: »

Fair point....Its been a long long time since padreeag has shown any worthwhile form and add to the fact that he won two of his three majors in weakened fields, we'd be as well to start a ronan rafferty thread

Are ye Pro's???How many majors have ye got?:pac::pac::pac::pac:

Nerdstrom

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Originally Posted by Deco1983
He'll be playing off 12 in 2 years...you watch

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Originally Posted by Deco1983
I'll be straight up with you,Down the middle?? - I'm merely suggesting that he is a bit ****e,thats all.

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Originally Posted by jmorrisey
Fair point....Its been a long long time since padreeag has shown any worthwhile form and add to the fact that he won two of his three majors in weakened fields, we'd be as well to start a ronan rafferty thread

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Are ye Pro's???How many majors have ye got?:pac::pac::pac::pac:

They are probably not pros, and certainly not good ones. And it is a mindset thing, and its very common. Some people are just very snowblind when it comes to sport.

They think that whatever form trend a player/team is on at the moment, this will continue for the rest of eternity. For example around xmas time they were 100% sure Man City would win the league, or in 2003 when Tiger was playing dreadful Im quite sure these type people would say he was 'finished'.

Or thought Gmac was 'very likely to win a major' in 2011, because of us open and RC winning point. But now Gmac is probably 'finished'.

They forget that top sports people/teams do have the ability to turn things around. That one reason that i love sport anyway

Deco1983

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Are ye Pro's???How many majors have ye got?:pac::pac::pac::pac:

lol - The Nerdstromer below seems to have all the answers. Fair Play

Please refer to The Nerdstrom going forward for definitive answers on all golfing/sporting matters

He also may be the 'go to' guy if you want help cranking up that post to 11 on the condescending meter

Nice work
They

GreeBo

jmorrisey wrote: »

Anyhow of the Irish contingent (mcilroy aside) I think Lowry is ready to make an impact this season. After a Rocky start to his pro career there were signs at the end of the year that he was beginning to turn the corner. A much more naturally talented player than Padraig I hope he manages to find some consistency this season. If he does then the skys the limit

Oh Joy!
Combining a Harrington thread with a Talent thread...

Deco1983

GreeBo wrote: »

Oh Joy!
Combining a Harrington thread with a Talent thread...

And Ronan Rafferty

Nerdstrom

Deco1983 wrote: »

lol - The Nerdstromer below seems to have all the answers. Fair Play

Please refer to The Nerdstrom going forward for definitive answers on all golfing/sporting matters

He also may be the 'go to' guy if you want help cranking up that post to 11 on the condescending meter

Nice work
They

Sorry they, I cant sign up for this lucrative position as I actually am not logged in here 24/7, not that Im being condescending to they who are.

Pity you had to resort to sarcastically criticising me and the way my post was written, rather than the content. Not surprised though, as we both know u are one of those idiots that I described. (embarrassing)

I was merely seconding the point PH made here,

http://www.rte.ie/sport/golf/highlights.html?3165069,3165069,flash,257

regarding the peaks and troughs of peoples sports careers, and I think that top guys can recover.

charlieIRL

Deco1983 wrote: »

The Burgers Lowry Invitational 2012

you are beginning to sound a lot like our old friend Conno!

I hope Padraig wins again this year.

Deco1983

You're responsible for your own post Nerdstrom. I found it condescending, rambling and a bit high level. but maybe i just didn't understand it?

Very early in the morning for abuse - Its that kind of loss of self control and focus that has cost Paddy H imo

Deco1983

charlieIRL wrote: »

you are beginning to sound a lot like our old friend Conno!

I hope Padraig wins again this year.

That was robbed from Conno alright - hands up:)

I hope he wins too but just feel its unlikely given current form thats all

foxyboxer

I guess there comes a point in a top players career that the mind is willing but the body is found wanting. Younger, fearless and longer players are all vying for them now and seeing as the ANGC has become a bombers course with his advancing age, the Masters might be a major too far. In the US Open, 500+ yard par 4's with tight fairways are now de rigeur as is the US PGA. (240 yard par 3's anyone?).

That leaves the Open. Where length is still a factor but strategy, accuracy and a bit of luck play their part too (i.e. you're highly unlikely to be hitting 4-iron pitch and run shots from 150 yards in a stiff breeze at the other majors). Considering his exemption, he will be playing (injury free) until 2018. It's his best chance for another Major win.

We always tend to overlook what Harrington achieved in the last decade. Personally I see his role in the game as becoming an elder statesman for European golf (see his work with the R&A) as well as a future Ryder Cup captain having a very analytical mind.

Martin567

Deco1983 wrote: »

You're responsible for your own post Nerdstrom. I found it condescending, rambling and a bit high level. but maybe i just didn't understand it?

Very early in the morning for abuse - Its that kind of loss of self control and focus that has cost Paddy H imo

I have to say I found Nerdstrom's post to be sensible, concise and very easy to understand. I also agreed with every word of it.

From previous experience of Deco's posts, they are normally insulting, simplistic and lacking in any sort of basic knowledge of the topic at hand. He also seems quick to accuse others of "abuse" despite very often being the originator of the abuse in the first place.

Deco1983

Martin567 wrote: »

I have to say I found Nerdstrom's post to be sensible, concise and very easy to understand. I also agreed with every word of it.

From previous experience of Deco's posts, they are normally insulting, simplistic and lacking in any sort of basic knowledge of the topic at hand. He also seems quick to accuse others of "abuse" despite very often being the originator of the abuse in the first place.

I'm devastated

JerryHandbag

4 under thru 12 and tied 2nd at the Volvo Champions event. Keep that going Paddy, time to deliver!

FixdePitchmark

JerryHandbag wrote: »

4 under thru 12 and tied 2nd at the Volvo Champions event. Keep that going Paddy, time to deliver!

Sounds like some of the guys on here were a bit early to write him off, i could be too early to call him back. Early days.

stockdam

Well if Clarke can win one after being written off then Harrington can too. However I won't be holding my breath.

whatawaster

The odds are against him, no doubt, but that's mainly because there is probably more great young players now than there ever has been.

I really think Kaymer and McIlroy in particular will become two of the greatest players ever, and there's guys like Jason Day, Ishikawa, Manassero and the list goes on. Unbelievable young talent.

Add to that Westwood, Donald, Mickelson, a resurgent Sergio Garcia, and of course Tiger Woods.

It's harder than ever to win a major, but I'd never write Harrington off. Here's a man who was derided in the past for not being able to close out regular tournaments, but went on to prove everyone wrong, win 3 major championships and prove himself the best European player of a generation.

After he won the PGA, he had a terrible year, and he was written off. He came back late that year and had a brilliant run in the fedex cup and in the PGA. He can come back and challenge strongly.

Just looking now, I see he had a seven on the last hole today, ruining a good round. He needs to cut those kind of mistakes out.

Su Campu

foxyboxer wrote: »

I guess there comes a point in a top players career that the mind is willing but the body is found wanting.....

I think it's the other way around. His mind has been the obstacle against making him one of the top players ever. He wins some majors and is on the crest of the wave but then goes and fiddles with his swing. Throughout it all he's always had to have some negativity spurring him on, some niggling "injury" that he's carrying into a tournament that takes the pressure off him and takes the favourite tag off his head. He seemed to thrive on this kind of foolery when he won his majors, but I suppose he then ran out of injuries so had to turn to swing changes to try and make it as difficult as possible for himself.

I find him hard to stomach at the moment, but I hope he can get it together psychologically and let the true talent that he obviously has shine through. And he needs to stop dropping shots on the final holes of rounds! :mad:

whatawaster

It's always the mind that goes first in golfers, and it usually manifests in the putting stroke. There's few players who putt as well at 40/50 as they did in their twenties. They become less aggressive, less natural and more afraid. It's a well-worn tale.

FixdePitchmark

I like Paddy,

But that pre shot routine with the one leg back (left leg) looks like he is a dog taking a piss. Watching recording now.

I think it was like that before , or is that new ?

FixdePitchmark

I'd say a good few of the lads don't like playing with him, he does a lot of talking to the ball and they think he is going to be slow, looking at him now, he looks faster , could be new coach.

Sorry , that was just me watching in fast forward, joking , he looks like he has speeded up.

Sorry, was full of **** again , just seen him hit a putt. was slow , but went in.

Sorry, that was a total slice on the 18th. hope is in the bush.


As for Clarke, I'm not joking , thank God he won the open for exemption. He looks like a lad who would lose a card. I mean, he is missing greens from 6 / 7 Iron. He can't chip, poor distance on putts.

whatawaster

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

I like Paddy,

But that pre shot routine with the one leg back (left leg) looks like he is a dog taking a piss. Watching recording now.

I think it was like that before , or is that new ?

It's a great drill

FixdePitchmark

whatawaster wrote: »

It's a great drill

I'd seen that before, but you can't be going around doing **** like that on a course,

1) I'm waiting, you look like a dog, go to the trees for a piss.

2) You are a pro , don't be doing amature drills ON THE COURSE.

3) He looks like he is doing the start of the Walls of Limerick.

4) I don't see too many others doing it, well not as wide.


Anyway, i couldn't play with someone doing that. But as if would want to play with me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9A7uEOxWyU

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FixdePitchmark wrote: »

I'd say a good few of the lads don't like playing with him, he does a lot of talking to the ball and they think he is going to be slow, looking at him now, he looks faster , could be new coach.

Sorry , that was just me watching in fast forward, joking , he looks like he has speeded up.

Sorry, was full of **** again , just seen him hit a put. was slow , but went in.

Sorry, that was a total slice on the 18th. hope is in the bush.


As for Clarke, I'm not joking , thank God he won the open for exemption. He looks like a lad who would lose a card. I mean, he is missing greens from 6 / 7 Iron. He can't chip, poor distance on putts.

:eek: I'll have 2 of whatever you're on!