Mhw-Bike.com Cube bikes

DrZeuss

I just wanted to share my experience of Mhw-Bike.com (mhw-bike.de) as I could find very little talk about this shop on here.

The reason the website caught my eye was the prices. for example:

Cube Ltd Pro 2012
Cycle superstore €1185.45
Mhw-bike €999.00

Too good to be true? I though so too, so I did a little research

I was in the market for a new bike and after a bit of searching came across that site, a little further research and I found a Spanish forum (foromtb Thank's Google for the translating skills) that was discussing the delivery from this website and whether it was a legitimate site.

Now they will take 10% off the price too if you send an email asking for their best price (which makes the price extremely good). And they seemed like a very professional place too.

So back to my story, I ended up getting a Cube Attention 2012 for €189 cheaper from them than it would have cost off Cyclesuperstore and €227 cheaper than CRC, free delivery to Ireland by DHL with tracking. All in all it took, from initial email on the 3/1/12 till yesterday when I received it. (took 4 business days for delivery)

I'm not in any way affiliated with mhw-bike except that I'm a happy customer sharing his experience. The bike came fully assembled (turn handlebars and fit pedals) and it was paid for through paypal.

Now I'm not trying to be anti lbs but its hard to say no to a saving of that much. And I also knew what size bike was appropriate for me too.







Maybe if anyone else has dealt with them to post their experiences here too for anyone who may search in the future.

DrZeuss out

boc121

Hey there i am thinking about one of these and was wondering how you find it so far?
Also if you dont mind what size did you get and what are your sizes?
Cheers.

Transporting

Fair play for supporting the German economy... Yes its cheaper to purchase the bike from there V's the Superstore, but when you take into account most LBS will give the first bike service as part of buying the bike, you can actually sit on the bike and make sure its the correct size for you, if you have warranty issues you just leave it with them to sort out and don't have to worry about shipping cracked frames back to Germany then you may find out that shopping local is genarally best, and building up a relationship with your lbs is good for both parties. Most bike shops will do their best to do something on the price if you ask. This country is on its knees and people still want to keep the Germans gainfully employed by sending them your money.

cormpat

Transporting wrote: »

Fair play for supporting the German economy... Yes its cheaper to purchase the bike from there V's the Superstore, but when you take into account most LBS will give the first bike service as part of buying the bike, you can actually sit on the bike and make sure its the correct size for you, if you have warranty issues you just leave it with them to sort out and don't have to worry about shipping cracked frames back to Germany then you may find out that shopping local is genarally best, and building up a relationship with your lbs is good for both parties. Most bike shops will do their best to do something on the price if you ask. This country is on its knees and people still want to keep the Germans gainfully employed by sending them your money.

The joys of the free market. If you don't like it, move to North Korea.
This argument doesn't wash, because unless's he's buying a 100% manufactured bike in Ireland, his money will be leaving the country regardless. If he buys a Cube Bike from his LBS where does the LBS buy the Cube bike from?

davey101

Transporting wrote: »

Fair play for supporting the German economy... Yes its cheaper to purchase the bike from there V's the Superstore, but when you take into account most LBS will give the first bike service as part of buying the bike, you can actually sit on the bike and make sure its the correct size for you, if you have warranty issues you just leave it with them to sort out and don't have to worry about shipping cracked frames back to Germany then you may find out that shopping local is genarally best, and building up a relationship with your lbs is good for both parties. Most bike shops will do their best to do something on the price if you ask. This country is on its knees and people still want to keep the Germans gainfully employed by sending them your money.

The Op was only sharing his experience with his purchase, these type of posts always bring up the same type of comments but I would put my race bike on it that the person making the comment has at some point bought something online from abroad. We are alll well aware of the state of the economy but would be a fool to not look for a cheaper option. If the Op was feeling guilty he could go down to his lbs and buy a few consumables because I would say that over the course of a year the lbs would get a similar return on these than you buying a bike from them.

btw thanks DrZeuss for the review.

Tenzor07

I agree with Transporting...

€189 is a marginal saving when it comes to peace of mind..

1st service of bike:
Free LBS. - Bought from I'net: €50(est.)
If Forks need servicing add on another €50

Your down to €100 saving now...

Crack appearing on frame?
Ship back to Germany by DHL, wait for return?
Saving = €??

Cyclesuperstore give a 15% discount on parts and servicing with every bike:
Your saving now? -€

And Yes it is an free market and if we all thought like that then Ireland would feel very much like North Korea!

Tenzor07

cormpat wrote: »

unless's he's buying a 100% manufactured bike in Ireland, his money will be leaving the country regardless. If he buys a Cube Bike from his LBS where does the LBS buy the Cube bike from?

Not the point, Cars are not made in Ireland however they contribute a huge amount of VAT and other taxes to the economy, as well as supporting jobs in sales and distribution...

Cubed

cormpat wrote: »

The joys of the free market. If you don't like it, move to North Korea.
This argument doesn't wash, because unless's he's buying a 100% manufactured bike in Ireland, his money will be leaving the country regardless. If he buys a Cube Bike from his LBS where does the LBS buy the Cube bike from?

Its the profit on the bike that goes to the Irish business and supports the Irish economy...

I checked the price of my bike against that website and it is only €90 cheaper, for points mentioned above by Transport I think its well worth sticking with your LBS and supporting your own economy, OP maybe you didn't shop around enough locally?

Only the other day I had a problem with my rear wheel, I called to the shop I purchased the bike in, it was a five minute fix which they carried out free of charge. To fix it myself the tools would have cost 40/50 quid and I am sure another bike shop may have charged me similar.

Lumen

Isn't it great how everyone is an economist now?

davey101

Lumen wrote: »

Isn't it great how everyone is an economist now?

Ha ha ha

Tenzor07 wrote: »

1st service of bike:
Free LBS. - Bought from I'net: €50(est.)
If Forks need servicing add on another €50

Should really learn how to do these essentials yourself, and you can always buy the parts from your lbs.

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Crack appearing on frame?
Ship back to Germany by DHL, wait for return?
Saving = €??

A cracked frame can be brought to any brand dealer, and if you happen to be a regular customer it would be sorted without a problem. If not well then these are the pitfalls you should be prepared for. Either way you will be waiting for a replacement.

Tenzor07 wrote: »

And Yes it is an free market and if we all thought like that then Ireland would feel very much like North Korea!

Thats probably a bit harsh, Prices across the board have to come down and that will only happen by people seeking out the best bang for their buck. I'm all for my lbs and put whatever custom I can their way sometimes at a cost which eventually evens out due to online bargains.

Transporting

I don't have the interest in multi quotes etc but my point is that when you look at the long term cost buying on-line is not always cheaper, and thats based on personal experience. Yes I have purchased stuff on-line where there was a big discount/clearance, I'm not one for paying over the odds for anything and am all for getting value, often times value is as good locally.

smacl

Tenzor07 wrote: »

€189 is a marginal saving when it comes to peace of mind..

€189 (19%) might be the difference is someone being able to purchase or not. I'm all for supporting local business where the price difference is marginal, but what constitutes marginal changes for each person. For me it's about 10% of the cost of the items delivered to the door. Whether or not the peace of mind offered by the shop is worth €189 also comes down to the individual and their familiarity with the kit they're buying.

If you're advocating a bricks and mortar shop versus the internet, it's worth noting that cyclesuperstore.ie also operate as an internet vendor selling internationally. I've no great interest in spending hours browsing around bike shops, I'd rather make the purchase on-line and spend the time out on the bike. That said, I've just had a scan of cyclesuperstore.ie for a couple of items I've priced recently elsewhere, and they are certainly competitive with Wiggle and ChainReaction, though less so with Bike24 (more Germans!). Could just be my impression, but most of the posts on this forum talking about online vendors seem to refer to CRC and Wiggle, whereas cyclesuperstore gets far few mentions.

Tenzor07

Can't be bothered doing anything but the basics of maintenance on a bike, I drop the bike into my LBS while I go for a spin on my other bike, and it's all ready to go after my spin

As for DIY suspension servicing, don't get me started!

Tenzor07

smacl wrote: »

€189 (19%) might be the difference is someone being able to purchase or not. I'm all for supporting local business where the price difference is marginal, but what constitutes marginal changes for each person. For me it's about 10% of the cost of the items delivered to the door. Whether or not the peace of mind offered by the shop is worth €189 also comes down to the individual and their familiarity with the kit they're buying.

I meant when you look at the actual savings versus what you save in the short term even... A full bike service including forks would set you back €80+ so then reduces your saving to 10%...


(and I am only guessing what full bike servicing costs as I don't pay full costs)

DrZeuss

Transporting wrote: »

Fair play for supporting the German economy... Yes its cheaper to purchase the bike from there V's the Superstore, but when you take into account most LBS will give the first bike service as part of buying the bike, you can actually sit on the bike and make sure its the correct size for you, if you have warranty issues you just leave it with them to sort out and don't have to worry about shipping cracked frames back to Germany then you may find out that shopping local is genarally best, and building up a relationship with your lbs is good for both parties. Most bike shops will do their best to do something on the price if you ask. This country is on its knees and people still want to keep the Germans gainfully employed by sending them your money.

I already knew what size bike I needed, so didn't need to get a fitting. As was mentioned warranty work will end up leaving you waiting anyway even if dropped off local.
I bought my last bike in cyclesuperstore and found them excellent but I service my own bikes and do any repairs that they need negating the need for the first "service"

Tenzor07 wrote: »

I agree with Transporting...

€189 is a marginal saving when it comes to peace of mind..

1st service of bike:
Free LBS. - Bought from I'net: €50(est.)
If Forks need servicing add on another €50

Your down to €100 saving now...

Crack appearing on frame?
Ship back to Germany by DHL, wait for return?
Saving = €??

Cyclesuperstore give a 15% discount on parts and servicing with every bike:
Your saving now? -€

And Yes it is an free market and if we all thought like that then Ireland would feel very much like North Korea!

If your going to add up all the prices then cyclesuperstore give a 7.5% (making the bike still €120 odd dearer) discount on Cubes.
Drive to Tallaght for a fitting €10 approx
Bring bike up for first service €10
Collect bike from first service €10

Still looks like a bargain to me, maybe I'm adding it wrong!

Don't get me wrong I try to give as much business as I can locally and cyclesuperstore are competitive with most of the online retailers but value is what its all about.

-DrZeuss

DrZeuss

boc121 wrote: »

Hey there i am thinking about one of these and was wondering how you find it so far?
Also if you dont mind what size did you get and what are your sizes?
Cheers.

To be honest I have only had it out on the road for a spin, and well I like it. Seems fairly light and Iv gotten a few compliments on it already.

I'm 5 10 with inside leg of about 31 and its an 18" and fits absolutely perfect straight out of the box!

I have a Cube road bike too, have clocked up about 4000k on it and have to say it is the best bike Iv had, loads of compliments too, the Cube bikes look tasty I reckon.

Tenzor07

DrZeuss wrote: »

Don't get me wrong I try to give as much business as I can locally and cyclesuperstore are competitive with most of the online retailers but value is what its all about.

Yea sure, I would certainly buy in from abroad if it was for a bike I could not get here, or if there was a considerable price gap between the cheapest price here and online...

However €120 is not quite enough "value" for me to order online considering the service I get from my LBS...

DrZeuss

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Yea sure, I would certainly buy in from abroad if it was for a bike I could not get here, or if there was a considerable price gap between the cheapest price here and online...

However €120 is not quite enough "value" for me to order online considering the service I get from my LBS...

You see the closest Cube dealer to me is 80k away, I was being very optimistic with €10 for petrol.

And I still do all my servicing so even though its only €120 or so its still a saving of 16% of the discounted lbs price.

My actual lbs shops are few and far between, one or two indys and a Halfords so most of my shopping would go through cyclesuperstore.

Tenzor07

DrZeuss wrote: »

You see the closest Cube dealer to me is 80k away, I was being very optimistic with €10 for petrol.
My actual lbs shops are few and far between, one or two indys and a Halfords so most of my shopping would go through cyclesuperstore.

Us Dub's are just spoilt for choice so!

triggermortis

I don't see what all the fuss is about. OP knew what he wanted, shopped about and got a good deal. Where is he going to spend his saved cash? More than likely, the local economy.

mikerd4

Theres some irony here as people recommend canyon all the time and last time I checked they weren't available in the lbs so the money leaves the country!

If people want to save money then let them, it's there choice. Hell the op may never service his bike