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Sharing Broadband with tennant

  • 18-01-2012 3:46pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭


    So I have UPC and someone else who lives here wants to share it and split the bill with me.
    He says he wants to run a cable directly from the modem to his tv, to watch satellite tv.

    I don't no much about this field so I have a few questions, any help would be great, thanks guys.


    How much bandwidth it will consume as I assume it will HDTV
    Or is the line only used to order the movies and not stream the actual movies..

    Anything else I should know about would be great...


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭Solair


    A few minor issues:

    1) You'll basically be responsible for the connection. So, should your tenant turn out to be into illegal file sharing of movies, planning acts of terrorism, online financial fraud and child porn you could find yourself in trouble.

    2) If they are watching TV over the connection, you would need to be aware that you have a 500GB cap. While this is loads for most things, watching a lot of online television/movies over it could really blast through your data allowance quite fast.

    If you already have a UPC connection in the house, installing another connection would be quite simple. There's no major wiring or running of lines back to exchanges with a cable service, so it's just a matter of UPC adding a cable point in the apartment.

    Personally, I'd just let the tenant deal with UPC themselves.

    It could possibly breech UPC's terms and conditions to connect the service to another dwelling too.

    You could find yourself falling out with them if, for example, they used up your data allowance and you wanted to end the agreement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,624 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    Don't do it. As the previous poster has pointed out, you are leaving yourself open to investigation if the tenant uses the link for illegal purposes.

    If you connect a broadband link direct to a TV there is a limit to what you can use it for, currently he might be able to use it for Netflix (Video on Demand) and completely blow your monthly 500GB limit if he watches too many movies but it's more likely he'll use your link to download TV programs and movies overnight from illegal US sites so you'll probably exceed your data limit and run the risk that UPC will disconnect you.

    Tell him to set up his own separate UPC account.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,536 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    The description of what he wants to do doesn't fit, if he runs a cable from your cable modem this won't allow him to watch channels on his tv unless he's ruinning it through a computer, connecting it to a tv and streaming stuff to the tv.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,150 ✭✭✭homer911


    Satellite TV comes through a satellite dish and receiver, not through a UPC connection


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭Daithi 1


    Thanks lads.

    I suppose the last post was my real question. Can the ethernet cable be directly connected to his tv ? Like for example how you would connect a phone line to a sky box to order movies, or could it be used to stream content directly to the tv from a menu on the tv.


    Edit:
    Cheers Homer


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    I think he probably hasn't a clue what he's trying to do. If he has a Smart TV with and Ethernet port then he can connect this to the Internet. What he can do there largely depends on what's available, and what the TV supports. Watching Sky Satellite TV is not going to happen, hence I believe he doesn't actually know what he's doing.

    There's no real problem with sharing the Internet connection in the house, plenty of people do it. Biggest problem will be if he is streaming television content all day then he could well break the 500GB cap, and you'll end up getting charged for it.

    The phone line that connects to a Sky box is for authentication purposes, it has nothing to do with Broadband. The Ethernet cable that comes from the UPC modem gives you an Internet connection, which is basically nothing to do with television or Sky.

    If he wants to authenticate his Sky box through a phone line, and is looking to use the UPC phone connection, then this may be possible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,163 ✭✭✭ZENER


    Netflix, RTE Player, TV3 Player ? Maybe this is what he has in mind ?

    Ken


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,644 ✭✭✭cml387


    I believe there is an application that allows you to watch free satellite tv via a certain box if you have an internet connection.The card code is shared between users.
    It's all illegal and I won't post any more info but I guess this is what your flatmate is doing,or wants to do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,235 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    From what I'm reading, it seems the tenant just wanted to split the incoming UPC cable itself and watch the however many analogue channels on it? I don't think it's anything got to do with the internet or bandwidth allowances etc.

    There shouldn't be a problem in doing that so long as the splitter and cable used is of good quality (screened, uses f plugs that screw on like the existing cable) HOWEVER if there's no existing subscription for TV aswell then this would constitute as theft of TV services off UPC.


    From what I remember reading on boards, UPC don't allow multiple accounts per address so some sort of arrangement will have to be made. Maybe UPC can make a particular arrangement with a landlord given the security and responsibility implications and so on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,624 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    Cabaal wrote: »
    The description of what he wants to do doesn't fit, if he runs a cable from your cable modem this won't allow him to watch channels on his tv unless he's ruinning it through a computer, connecting it to a tv and streaming stuff to the tv.

    Not true, you can stream via a Smart TV or Blu-Ray player which has an Ethernet port, you no longer need a PC to stream video. I have a Sony Blu-Ray player connected to my UPC router and can watch YouTube, EuroSport, muzu.tv and even selected TV3 programs. If the OP's tenant has a PS3 or Xbox he could access Netflix with a network connection, no PC required.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,378 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    From what I remember reading on boards, UPC don't allow multiple accounts per address so some sort of arrangement will have to be made. Maybe UPC can make a particular arrangement with a landlord given the security and responsibility implications and so on.

    I recall someone saying that to get multiple accounts at the same address they used 1A xxxx where their address is 1 xxxx.

    If the op is referring to a broadband connection to a Samsung Smart TV though then the easiest connection option is a pair of Power Plugs plugged into the electrical sockets.


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