Who was Lord Edward.

barry711

I go to college in Ballyfermot and it means I have to travel across the city to get there. One my journey the bus goes onto a street called "Lord Edward Street" and there is also a pub at the top of it called "The Lord Edward" I'm curious who this guy was as it sounds like a very English name.

Judgement Day

barry711 wrote: »

I go to college in Ballyfermot and it means I have to travel across the city to get there. One my journey the bus goes onto a street called "Lord Edward Street" and there is also a pub at the top of it called "The Lord Edward" I'm curious who this guy was as it sounds like a very English name.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_Edward_FitzGerald

Wiki - it's not rocket science! Revolutionary hero or traitor - depends where you're coming from.

dubhthach

barry711 wrote: »

I go to college in Ballyfermot and it means I have to travel across the city to get there. One my journey the bus goes onto a street called "Lord Edward Street" and there is also a pub at the top of it called "The Lord Edward" I'm curious who this guy was as it sounds like a very English name.

Lord Edward FitzGerald -- fifth son of the Duke of Leinster born in Carton House. His princple residence was Frescati House (site of Frescati Shopping center *shudders*) in Blackrock. He was one of the leaders of the United Irishmen.

JFK said the following in his address to the Dáil

..
This elegant building, as you know, was once the property of the Fitzgerald family, but I have not come here to claim it. Of all the new relations I have discovered on this trip, I regret to say that no one has yet found any link between me and a great Irish patriot, Lord Edward Fitzgerald. Lord Edward, however, did not like to stay here in his family home because, as he wrote his mother, "Leinster House does not inspire the brightest ideas."..

http://www.jfklibrary.org/Research/Ready-Reference/JFK-Speeches/Address-Before-the-Irish-Parliament-June-28-1963.aspx

Dev wasn't impressed by the above quote about Leinster House and had RTÉ censor it from the video clip of JFK's speech.

Wikipedia can be a start:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_Edward_FitzGerald
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frescati_House
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carton_House

barry711

Judgement Day wrote: »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_Edward_FitzGerald

Wiki - it's not rocket science! Revolutionary hero or traitor - depends where you're coming from.

Whats your view of him, hero or traitor?

Judgement Day

Traitor of course, but then I am a rabid Unionist - sorry!

dubhthach

Judgement Day wrote: »

Traitor of course, but then I am a rabid Unionist - sorry!

Except Ireland wasn't part of the union until 3 years after he died

barry711

Well thanks for the info guys, appreciated

CDfm

And there is a song too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0DqPSF2fyo

The ore tanker sank in 1975 with a loss of 29 lives.

I like this bio of him

http://www.libraryireland.com/biography/LordEdwardFitzGerald.php

Snickers Man

CDfm wrote: »

And there is a song too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0DqPSF2fyo

The ore tanker sank in 1975 with a loss of 29 lives.

Was it Christy Moore or Bobby Sands who ripped off this tune for Sands' lyric "I wish I was back home in Derry"?

CDfm

There are some great parts to historic Dublin when one knows where to look

This famous Tavern is named after Lord Edward Fitzgerald who was the 5th son of the Duke of Leinster. (Leinster of which Dublin is the capital, being the largest of the four Irish provinces) His ancestral home was the magnificent Carton Hall in Co. Kildare, and his Town House was Leinster House now the seat of our parliament. His seaside house was the lovely, though now direlict Frascati in Blackrock, Co. Dublin. Lord Edward reached high rank in the English Army, and saw service in the American and West Indian Colonies. Because of his family background, he was given a seat in the Irish Parliament, which was housed in what is now the Head Office of the Bank of Ireland in College Green, Dublin.
It did not take him long to realize that this was a puppet parliament. He became disillusioned with their policy rigging, and soon came to the notice of The United Irishmen (Free Ireland Movement). Because of his military experience, he was appointed C in C of their forces, and helped plan the Abortive Rebellion of 1798 against the Crown with Robert Emmet, Wolfe Tone and Napper Tandy. Due to the ever present paid informer of the Crown in Ireland's long history of insurrection, Lord Edward was arrested in his hiding place in nearby Thomas Street, prior to the date fixed for the rebellion. In resisting arrest he was severely wounded, and later died of his wounds in Newgate Jail on the North side of the river Liffey. He was aged thirty-five. He is buried in St. Werburgh's Church across the road from our restaurant entrance.


http://www.lordedward.ie/tbhistory.htm

And

Beneath the church are 27 vaults, which belonged by right and custom to the incumbents. Chancellor Richard Bourne gave his vault to Lord Edward FitzGerald, son of the Duke of Leinster, who was buried there after his execution in 1798. Lord Edward was a Leader of the 1798 Rebellion. The man who captured him, Town-Major Henry Sirr, was buried in the adjoining graveyard in 1841.



Baptisms included that of Jonathan Swift, the great Dean of St. Patrick's Cathedral (author of "Gulliver's Travels"), born in Hoey's Court in 1667. There was also the adult baptism of O'Brien Bellingham (brother of the Baronet of Castle Bellingham), who in the same year married Anne Tandy, niece of the celebrated James Napper Tandy, another of the 1798 Leaders. Burials included John Pepys, relation of the celebrated Diaryist.



In the centre aisle there is a bell with Napper Tandy's name on it, which came from St.John's Church where he had been a churchwarden.

http://www.cccgroup.dublin.anglican.org/Christ_Church_Cathedral_Group/St._Werburghs.html