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What happens if the market crashes...?

  • 17-01-2012 1:28pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 792 ✭✭✭


    (Original question edited to make it a little clearer)

    I know exactly how spread betting works but I want to know about investing in an index tracker

    My question is:

    Investing: If I invest, say £1000 in a FTSE tracker when the price is say 40.0 and it then drops to 20.0--> I would have just £500 right? (not counting fees)

    Spread betting: If it was spread betting account I would be down 19 points so that would mean 19*1000 = 19,000 in the red! (not counting the spread)

    So....Investing -> loss of £500
    Spread betting -> loss of £19,000

    Am I on the right track here?


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭✭later12


    You won't make a loss (or profit) with any investment you undertake in $/£ cost averaging until you make that investment.

    And yes, spread betting is quite different again. For one thing, you never own your underlying stock in spread betting; it's literally just more of a gamble.

    Here is a clearer definition of spread betting

    http://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/spreadbetting.asp#axzz1jjbAKfQc


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,372 Mod ✭✭✭✭andrew


    moved to investments and markets


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 792 ✭✭✭parc


    Sorry some of that sounds retarded. Falls more than 100% lol

    I know exactly how spread betting works.

    My question is:

    Investing: If I invest, say £1000 in a FTSE tracker when the price is say 40.0 and it then drops to 20.0--> I would have just £500 right? (not counting fees)

    Spread betting: If it was spread betting account I would be down 19 points so that would mean 19*1000 = 19,000 in the red! (not counting the spread)

    So....Investing -> loss of £500
    Spread betting -> loss of £19,000

    Am I on the right track here?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,334 ✭✭✭OfflerCrocGod


    You are if you have £19,000 in the account, otherwise it's closed with all the money in the account gone. 0 is what would be left. The spread betters won't let you lose more then what is in your account, they may send you margin calls.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 792 ✭✭✭parc


    Cheers for the reply but I already know how spread betting works. I want to know about investing in a FTSE tracker

    My question is:

    Investing: If I invest, say £1000 in a FTSE tracker when the price is say 40.0 and it then drops to 20.0--> I would have just £500 right? (not counting fees)

    Also would it be possible to loose all of this £1000 say if the market, hypothetically speaking, dropped 100%.

    Let's say if drops 100% in February, and then rose 120% in March, would I still have my original investement +20%


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,077 ✭✭✭Shelflife


    You dont "invest" with spread betting. It depends on how much you buy a unit at.

    If you buy at 40 for €25 and the price drops to 25 then you will lose 15 x €25
    = €375.
    if you buy at 40 for €50 you would lose €750.

    Unless you have a line of credit, you will have to have the max downside (in this case 40 ) in your account before you will be allowed to trade.

    Afaik there are time limits on each deal, you cant just let it run indefinetely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 792 ✭✭✭parc


    Lads maybe I'm not being clear here (don't want to sound rude)

    My question is about investing in a FTSE tracker via a bank that offers it. Nothing to do with spread betting. I was just using spread bettig as a comparison.

    My qesion is on investing: If I invest, say £1000 in a FTSE tracker when the price is say 40.0 and it then drops to 20.0--> I would have just £500 right? (not counting fees)

    Also would it be possible to loose all of this £1000 say if the market, hypothetically speaking, dropped 100%.

    Let's say if drops 100% in February, and then rose 120% in March, would I still have my original investement +20%


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 315 ✭✭strmin


    parc wrote: »
    Lads maybe I'm not being clear here (don't want to sound rude)

    My question is about investing in a FTSE tracker via a bank that offers it. Nothing to do with spread betting. I was just using spread bettig as a comparison.

    My qesion is on investing: If I invest, say £1000 in a FTSE tracker when the price is say 40.0 and it then drops to 20.0--> I would have just £500 right? (not counting fees)

    Also would it be possible to loose all of this £1000 say if the market, hypothetically speaking, dropped 100%.

    Let's say if drops 100% in February, and then rose 120% in March, would I still have my original investement +20%

    Yes is answer to all your questions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 792 ✭✭✭parc


    Thanks a mill :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 221 ✭✭The Irish Riddler


    1. Yes.
    2. It depends on other factors.

    Without being rude you are asking it arseways so that is why your not getting proper answers.


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