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Another Rent allowance question....

  • 16-01-2012 9:19pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 734 ✭✭✭


    Hi, quick one;



    currently renting ;

    2 adults 2 children

    rent 950pm (rent ceiling max before the budget for our area)

    rent allowance 837pm

    We make up the balance of 113pm





    What will the new changes make to our rent allowance??

    thanks


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    I'm guessing you must be in one of the Dublin areas as they were the only ones above 900.

    Fingal has come down by 175 to 825 or the rest of dublin has come down 125 to 925.

    I'd say it'd be a good idea to prepare in case of a review of your rent allowance. Keep an eye on the market and see if it comes down in your area. If it does, then maybe you'll be in a good position to negotiate with your landlord if you need to.

    Apart from that, the minimum contribution couples have to pay went up but only by about 6 euro from what I gather. Your contribution seems quite high compared to the minimum which I think is in the 30-40 euro region. Please update us if you get asked to contribute more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 734 ✭✭✭battries not included


    It works out about 28.25e per week we have to contribute.

    I don't think the landlord will be neg rent, he is a bit of a cowboy :rolleyes:

    We are looking around for new place ASAP :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭ann0


    the whole thing is wrong.there is certain people in this country getting things that shouldent be allowed such as an allowance for feeding a dog and allowances for hairstyles and yes they do get it a cousin of mine is a hairdresser.the same people come in every month..they should stop that instead.people should gather and protest like they used to do.it seems that people just dont care anymore


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,168 ✭✭✭Balagan


    ann0 wrote: »
    the whole thing is wrong.there is certain people in this country getting things that shouldent be allowed such as an allowance for feeding a dog and allowances for hairstyles and yes they do get it a cousin of mine is a hairdresser.the same people come in every month..they should stop that instead.people should gather and protest like they used to do.it seems that people just dont care anymore

    The only 'allowance' in respect of a dog is in the form of tax relief for legally blind people who have official guide dogs.
    http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/it/credits/guide-dog.html

    And no 'allowances for hairstyles' either!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 910 ✭✭✭Jagera


    I was going to start a new thread, but I think this fits in here.

    My tenants are on RA and have been advised of the maximum allowance that will be supplied to them, based on location and family situation.

    Essentially, this amount accessible to them is more than 25% lower than any realistic rental asking price in the area. Furthermore, the amount is intended to be the total amount going to the landlord, it is not an amount they can add to in order to pay market rates.

    Social Welfare have advised them, that they must renegotiate the lease, or they will not receive RA, otherwise they must find a place at this lowered amount.

    The tenants will NEVER find reasonable accomodation at this price. They are put in the position to either:
    • ask me the reduce the rent by more than 25%, which I won't
    • break the lease, lose the deposit, and try to find a property at this below market rates
    • ask me to renegotiate the lease, yet still pay me the difference, and commit fraud

    Of these options the third, despite it being fraud, seems to be the direction they feel they must go in, as the other two options leave them without a rental property and trying to find someone willing to accept less than market rates.

    I don't believe my tenants and I are the only ones in this situation, so I would like to find out how others have handled it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭ann0


    theres a family on my road who avail of the dog food allowance and the dog isent a guide dog.these people are from another country i know that a blind person can avail of that allowance.do you remember during the summer when it was in the paper about the immigrants claiming for dogs.a lot of them where caught out cos they dident have a dog but claimed the allowance anyway there is a hair allowance of 50 a month
    for the immigrants maybe that has been stopped though. read number 75 down in this link
    http://debates.oireachtas.ie/dail/2011/05/12/00064.asp
    ive gone completly of topic here
    if people cant afford to feed a dog they shouldent have one it shouldent be up to the tax payer to pay for stuff like that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,610 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Jagera wrote: »
    The tenants will NEVER find reasonable accomodation at this price. They are put in the position to either:
    • break the lease, lose the deposit, and try to find a property at this below market rates
    Aren't these changes coming into effect from the time of lease renewal?

    Does the rent you charge include things like bins, heating, electricity? These don't count towards the rent figure.
    ann0 wrote: »
    allowances for hairstyles
    In our day, it was called pocket money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,168 ✭✭✭Balagan


    ann0 wrote: »
    theres a family on my road who avail of the dog food allowance and the dog isent a guide dog.these people are from another country i know that a blind person can avail of that allowance.do you remember during the summer when it was in the paper about the immigrants claiming for dogs.a lot of them where caught out cos they dident have a dog but claimed the allowance anyway there is a hair allowance of 50 a month
    for the immigrants maybe that has been stopped though. read number 75 down in this link
    http://debates.oireachtas.ie/dail/2011/05/12/00064.asp
    ive gone completly of topic here
    if people cant afford to feed a dog they shouldent have one it shouldent be up to the tax payer to pay for stuff like that

    I read No. 75 in the link you give and this is what it states:

    75. Deputy John O’Mahony asked the Minister for Social Protection if a dog owner in receipt of social welfare allowance may receive extra payment for dog food; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [11094/11]

    Minister for Social Protection (Deputy Joan Burton): The position remains as advised in question number 146 which was answered for the Deputy on 1 December 2010. There are no payments made by the Department of Social Protection towards the cost of caring for a dog.


    Also, to restate, there are no Social Welfare 'allowances for hairstyles'. Not for immigrant hair, not for Irish hair, not for long hair, short hair and not even my very favourite, red hair!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭ann0


    landlords arnt responsible for bin tags heating or electricity.but if you are in an apartment the tenant in the apartment dosent pay for tags.most people i know who live in apartments put the bags in communal bins

    i like red hair also


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 910 ✭✭✭Jagera


    Victor wrote: »
    Aren't these changes coming into effect from the time of lease renewal?

    Does the rent you charge include things like bins, heating, electricity? These don't count towards the rent figure.

    They started the lease in January, so it is a renewal. The charge is for the property. Utilities and services are the tenants responsibility.

    I suppose as its early in the year, not many landlords/tenants have had to face this issue. As the lease renewals trickle in throughout the year, I would expect more people to be asking the same question.


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