Citroen Cars - any good?

kala85

Thinking of changing the car. Are citroen cars any good?

For Forks Sake

any specific Citroen car?

TonyStark

kala85 wrote: »

Thinking of changing the car. Are citroen cars any good?

Personally I'd avoid French cars. Parts more expensive than other brands IIRC.

puppetmaster

TonyStark wrote: »

Personally I'd avoid French cars. Parts more expensive than other brands IIRC.

Pay no attention to that post anyway,

But some citreons are good some would be worth stayin away from. All depends what your lookin for.

livvy

Any views on 2011 Citroen Grand Picasso ?

Guy:Incognito

TonyStark wrote: »

Parts more expensive than other brands IIRC.

Where do people get this stuff from?

johnos1984

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Where do people get this stuff from?

They pull it out of a small hole down the back of their trousers

colm_mcm

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Where do people get this stuff from?

They'd be the same people to recommend Mazda or Honda.

coolbeans

TonyStark wrote: »

kala85 wrote: »

Thinking of changing the car. Are citroen cars any good?

Personally I'd avoid French cars. Parts more expensive than other brands IIRC.

People come in here looking for advice and this is thw kind of ****e that's doled out. Honestly, if you don't know what you're talking about stay quiet. That's the trouble with motors, everyone has opinion. Evidence or heaven forbid facts are strictly optional.

robodonkey

www.reliabilityindex.com
www.carsurvey.org

Everyone has a horror story about "car brand X and it was nothing but trouble". Even with the above, keep in mind that people post negatively far more often than positively.

HTH

Stheno

I had a 2000 Citroen C5 which ran fine and I'd no issues with it

THe Oh has been driving a 2003 C5 for the last three years, he's fairly low mileage has done about 30k miles in that time, and apart from replacing the clutch @ 90k miles and the gear selector cables @ 110k miles he's had no problems with it.

It's big, comfy, holds a hell of a lot of "stuff" and five adults comfortably, good on long journeys, and a bastard to park.

I'd buy one if I was in that type of market again no problem. He sends it into the indy we use once a year for a service and has no major issues.

Saab Ed

One of the best cars I ever owned was a Citroen. One of the worst cars I I ever owned was a Citroen.

I hope thats helpful

onedaysoon

****e

Guy:Incognito

Stheno wrote: »

I had a 2000 Citroen C5 .

I'll bet you didnt.

Saab Ed

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

I'll bet you didnt.

I see what you did there

seanybiker

Father had a few citroens over the years and never had any problems with them. I used to work in a Citroen garage down here and don't remember many people coming back giving out about their cars.

kaizersoze

Great cars but much maligned unfortunately.

Since 2006 I've had...
2006 C4 5dr hatch
2008 C4 Picasso 5 seater
2008 C-Crosser for the business
2010 C5 Tourer estate (current car)
Great service from the dealer (Hugo Loonam, Cloghan - can't recommend him highly enough)
Eyeing up the new C4 atm.

Nothing major went wrong with any of them and the few bits that did were swiftly looked after by the dealer.

TonyStark

puppetmaster wrote: »

Pay no attention to that post anyway,

But some citreons are good some would be worth stayin away from. All depends what your lookin for.

Probably one of the *good* ones.... if thats possible.

TonyStark

colm_mcm wrote: »

They'd be the same people to recommend Mazda or Honda.

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar/citroen/

TonyStark

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Where do people get this stuff from?

Check carzone, in general the more reliable cars that are good all rounders will be those on the site in more plentiful amounts.

Not saying that all Citroen are poor, but there is a reason why they are not as popular as a say a Ford or a Toyota. I prefer to read between the lines of empirical evidence such as the amount of second hand cars on the market and draw conclusions from that rather than subjective personal experience of owning one car in a market of thousands...

Guy:Incognito

TonyStark wrote: »

Check carzone, in general the more reliable cars that are good all rounders will be those on the site in more plentiful amounts.

Not saying that all Citroen are poor, but there is a reason why they are not as popular as a say a Ford or a Toyota. I prefer to read between the lines of empirical evidence such as the amount of second hand cars on the market and draw conclusions from that rather than subjective personal experience of owning one car in a market of thousands...

What has that got to do with the price of parts


Here you go, knock yourself out comparing the prices between French cars and others.

http://www.eurocarparts.com/
http://irishautoparts.ie/
http://www.gsfcarparts.com/

TonyStark

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

What has that got to do with the price of parts


Here you go, knock yourself out comparing the prices between French cars and others.

http://www.eurocarparts.com/
http://irishautoparts.ie/
http://www.gsfcarparts.com/

Nah your grand. I think you have the head for the pedantry so I will leave it to you...

Guy:Incognito

TonyStark wrote: »

Nah your grand. I think you have the head for the pedantry so I will leave it to you...

Pedantry? You made a statement about parts then start going on about other stuff and dont expect anyone to question you?

TonyStark

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Pedantry? You made a statement about parts then start going on about other stuff and dont expect anyone to question you?

Correct! :-)

Guy:Incognito

TonyStark wrote: »

Correct! :-)

So we're all agreed your talking ****e then? good.

cson

TonyStark wrote: »

Check carzone, in general the more reliable cars that are good all rounders will be those on the site in more plentiful amounts.

Not saying that all Citroen are poor, but there is a reason why they are not as popular as a say a Ford or a Toyota. I prefer to read between the lines of empirical evidence such as the amount of second hand cars on the market and draw conclusions from that rather than subjective personal experience of owning one car in a market of thousands...

If that's the case why not just see what the Gardai and Taxi Drivers use as their atypical car and bingo = cars that stand up to abuse.

I don't think you can necessarily go by empirical evidence verbatim [if we are using choice words ) car purchasing is a complicated animal in this country from what I can see; far more brand loyalty than consumer savvy in a lot of cases.

TonyStark

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

So we're all agreed your talking ****e then? good.

The OEM parts are more expensive. It stands to reason if you think about it and when you think about the scale of production of Citroen cars in the first place, the country of origin and the costs of labour shipping etc compared to Ford/Toyota...

Guy:Incognito

TonyStark wrote: »

The OEM parts are more expensive....

Ah we're movign the goalposts now I see. Anything to back up this nugget or do we just take you at your word.?

TonyStark wrote: »

It stands to reason if you think about it and when you think about the scale of production of Citroen cars in the first place, the country of origin and the costs of labour shipping etc compared to Ford/Toyota...

I suppose. I mean a small back garden operation like PSA cant really compete with the big boys...................

Maybe car manufacturers should look in to having external companies making parts for them so they dont have to manufacter ever part of every car in house.

TonyStark

cson wrote: »

If that's the case why not just see what the Gardai and Taxi Drivers use as their atypical car and bingo = cars that stand up to abuse.

I don't think you can necessarily go by empirical evidence verbatim [if we are using choice words ) car purchasing is a complicated animal in this country from what I can see; far more brand loyalty than consumer savvy in a lot of cases.

In fact when I get tyres that's my first question. What tyres are most popular with a taxi driver... I have friends with Citroens with no complaints... but I always look towards the day that a car will eventually break down to wear and tear and for me I will always veer towards that brands that are most popular. Even from the sense of expertise of fixing them when something goes wrong.

I've heard a woeful tale of electrical problems with a volvo and a half a dozen others about alphas.

TonyStark

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Ah we're movign the goalposts now I see. Anything to back up this nugget or do we just take you at your word.?

Yeah I have a catalogue of parts here beside me.. you have me on my word.

An Ri rua

Citroens new are ****e, secondhand there's probably NO better car.

I've owned a Xantia 1.9TD SX. Brought it to 155k miles. A Xantia 2.0 16v Plus pack. brought it to 140K miles but unfortunately ignored timing belt. Replaced 14 out of 16 valves and sold it to a lucky bangernomics punter. It was a weapon.
Currently driving a Xantia 2.0 HDi LX. Just up on 200,000 miles. No clutch change, no nothing. Just fuel lift pump, pulley, tensioner, a crank pulley this summer gone. Wear and tear. A GREAT car.

LESSON for Boardsies:- Always buy a mark II Citroen, not a mark I. They always release the cars too early, f*ck up the technology , then sort it the niggles after punters fall off! They never learn.

Buy secondhand, find a good specialist mechanic (there's loads). Buy your parts from UK like AEP Direct.

I count them as the best car marque in the world. Buy and enjoy.

Wake up!

homer90

Thanks for that insight.....


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eljono

TonyStark wrote: »

Check carzone, in general the more reliable cars that are good all rounders will be those on the site in more plentiful amounts.

Not saying that all Citroen are poor, but there is a reason why they are not as popular as a say a Ford or a Toyota. I prefer to read between the lines of empirical evidence such as the amount of second hand cars on the market and draw conclusions from that rather than subjective personal experience of owning one car in a market of thousands...

Following this reasoning, your theory should hold up in all countries, if it is correct. So I searched secondhand Citroens in Belgium and 1791 results came up. Searching Toyota on the same site, brought in 1124 results. Does this now mean that Citroen is better than Toyota?

cson wrote: »

car purchasing is a complicated animal in this country from what I can see; far more brand loyalty than consumer savvy in a lot of cases.

Cson made a very good point, car purchasing in Ireland is often brand driven and can be a result of good marketing or long held black and white views of manufacturers e.g. German & Japanese - good, French & Italian - bad.

The most troublesome car I've owned was German, an Opel Vectra, but I don't think all Opels are bad because of it, just that one. I've owned French cars that haven't been perfect but weren't the financially ruining disasters many uninformed people would lead you to believe. As far as I'm concerned, most manufacturers will have bad eggs in their line-ups at some stage, it just requires some investigation by potential buyers to find out which ones and for what reasons.

Car manufacturing has come on in leaps and bounds, over the past decade especially. There are plenty of great cars out there, mostly ignored by the Irish consumer which is a pity, because it leads to a predictable and dull market in which to buy second hand cars. I'd like to see us as a nation let go of the old stereotypes and become more informed in our choices and opinions.

Who's with me? Let's start the Revolution on boards!

pcardin

TonyStark wrote: »

I've heard a woeful tale of electrical problems with a volvo and a half a dozen others about alphas.

That explains your pub knowledge about the cars. Do you drive Volkswagon by any chance?

francois

can anyone recommend a good citroen mechanic on the southside?
Failed the NCT because the front screen washer wasn't working!
Thanks

DELTATIP

Bought NEW citroen c4 - sx 1.4 2006

owner here

Here s some infomation to help you on your way
after 30 000 miles and 4 years

the gearbox cracked E1834 to replace {reconditioned unit}
two weeks later head gasket blow requiring overhaul E1950

several weeks later anti pollution issues with sensor cost now
E200 for the mo -more problems expected

rear hatch door wireloom failure cost of repair 0 self repaired
otherwise e300 {loom and fit }

next issue power windows failure
cost 0 self repaired doors stripped -nothing wrong re fit all worked ever since

window cleaner front stopped working repair cost 0 stripped /inspected loose hoose work

service cost per year average E180

summary of story -no to french cars unless your action man with a hefty wallet

currently driving this car to get my money back

regards
delta

PS - Lord bless all citroen owners.

DELTATIP

francois wrote: »

can anyone recommend a good citroen mechanic on the southside?
Failed the NCT because the front screen washer wasn't working!
Thanks

Screen wash - check your hoose work ,
Check { fuse }
Check that you have power going to your device
what kind of citroen car is it

if its a c 4 you can access the screen wash from underneath the car left side
front of wheel {unscrew the plastics }

An Ri rua

DELTATIP wrote: »

Screen wash - check your hoose work ,
Check { fuse }
Check that you have power going to your device
what kind of citroen car is it

if its a c 4 you can access the screen wash from underneath the car left side
front of wheel {unscrew the plastics }

Also fill it and then get down and wait and see if its leaking. If you didn't have winter screen fluid in the washer reservoir, it may have burst with the frost. Happened to me with a Xantia. Got a new washer motor.

TonyStark

eljono wrote: »

Following this reasoning, your theory should hold up in all countries, if it is correct. So I searched secondhand Citroens in Belgium and 1791 results came up. Searching Toyota on the same site, brought in 1124 results. Does this now mean that Citroen is better than Toyota?

It means that more people want to get shot of their Citroens and less people are willing to sell their trustworthy and reliable Toyotas.