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New Irish Rail website in place

  • 16-01-2012 5:41pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭


    and not working either!
    java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out: connect

    ...on virtually every page.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 562 ✭✭✭artvandelay48


    Irish rail iphone app doesn't work now presumably due to the new website... :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 560 ✭✭✭Jehuty42


    I'm not seeing any problems, can you link to an exact page. A java exception is strange too, unless they're using an applet on every page or something.

    [EDIT]Ah, ok, seeing it now. I guess they're using JBoss or something to deliver content from the server. Should probably email webmaster and make sure they know there are problems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,499 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    Works fine here on Firefox 9.0.1.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,635 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    Still not working on Chrome 16.0.912.75.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭n97 mini


    Alun wrote: »
    Works fine here on Firefox 9.0.1.

    You are possibly looking at the old site still (is your DNS being cached?)

    Does this page work?
    http://www.irishrail.ie/faresandtickets

    Still not working here as of 19:05.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭GerardKeating


    n97 mini wrote: »
    You are possibly looking at the old site still (is your DNS being cached?)

    Does this page work?
    http://www.irishrail.ie/faresandtickets

    Still not working here as of 19:05.

    Not working here either (tried Chrome and IE, so it ain't Chrome)

    same error message with both "java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out: connect"

    The home page does work, but the others....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭n97 mini


    Something wrong in the backend. Web server can't connect to the DB or something...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,635 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    I find that most parts of the website are working now on chrome. But the problem still happens live train and station updates.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,258 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    n97 mini wrote: »
    You are possibly looking at the old site still (is your DNS being cached?)

    Does this page work?
    http://www.irishrail.ie/faresandtickets

    Still not working here as of 19:05.


    Works fine on Safari 5.1.2 and in work on IE.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭Rashers72


    timetables would not work for me today...mixed error messages...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭n97 mini


    Works fine on Safari 5.1.2 and in work on IE.

    After being down for several hours its back working again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 433 ✭✭kc56


    Irish rail iphone app doesn't work now presumably due to the new website... :(

    Not do the Android Apps 'Next Train Train Ireland' or 'Traein' :mad:. The RSS feeds used by the Apps must have changed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,186 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    How recently was the "old" site done? Can't be more than a few years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 756 ✭✭✭smackyB


    kc56 wrote: »
    Not do the Android Apps 'Next Train Train Ireland' or 'Traein' :mad:. The RSS feeds used by the Apps must have changed.

    Yep I'm fixing NTI at the moment. Hope to have an update ready for tonight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,499 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    n97 mini wrote: »
    You are possibly looking at the old site still (is your DNS being cached?)

    Does this page work?
    http://www.irishrail.ie/faresandtickets

    Still not working here as of 19:05.
    Nope, looking at the new one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,160 ✭✭✭✭banshee_bones


    My Traein android app isnt working now, do I have to download a new one? Also live train updates, WTF some stupid "live Dart" map comes up. Christ wtf was wrong with the old live update part of the website!? typed in the station and you got the times ya needed south bound and northbound!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,287 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    You don't need to use the map.

    Use the box on the front page of the website, type in the station name and hit the "go" button and the real times will appear in a list, split northbound and southbound.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,279 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    My Traein android app isnt working now, do I have to download a new one? Also live train updates, WTF some stupid "live Dart" map comes up. Christ wtf was wrong with the old live update part of the website!? typed in the station and you got the times ya needed south bound and northbound!

    Unfortunately that is what happens when apps are forced to "scrap" the html from the website, rather then using officially approved webservices and API's.

    Really Irish Rail and all the Irish travel companies should be making their schedule data available via the GTFS-realtime format. A format used by hundreds of travel companies around the world and consumed by many travel apps including Google Maps:

    http://code.google.com/transit/realtime/

    Then you wouldn't have this issue when the website changed.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,004 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    DART fares section isn't working correctly on IE or Chrome. When I try to see the cost of a DART from Killester to Tara St, I'm told "There are no fares for your selected stations". Wow, to think I've been paying all this time when it wasn't required.
    Same for a number of different stations going into town.

    Must remember to hop over the barrier tomorrow.

    These sort of issues shouldn't really happen - the site isn't that complicated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 433 ✭✭kc56


    ixoy wrote: »
    DART fares section isn't working correctly on IE or Chrome. When I try to see the cost of a DART from Killester to Tara St, I'm told "There are no fares for your selected stations". Wow, to think I've been paying all this time when it wasn't required.
    Same for a number of different stations going into town.

    Must remember to hop over the barrier tomorrow.

    These sort of issues shouldn't really happen - the site isn't that complicated.

    Web site only shows Online Fares. You can't buy DART or commuter fares on-line so they're not shown.

    I was referring to the main page (Intercity). There does seem to be a bug with the DART fares section.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,287 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    That problem seems to be the case with any combination of stations that includes Tara Street, in the DART fare finder section, which appears to be a website error.

    Fares are (for information) the same from Dublin Pearse, Tara Street and Dublin Connolly to all other destinations.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,287 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    kc56 wrote: »
    Web site only shows Online Fares. You can't buy DART or commuter fares on-line so they're not shown.

    The previous poster is referring to the DART fare finder section not the journey planner.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,160 ✭✭✭✭banshee_bones


    lxflyer wrote: »
    You don't need to use the map.

    Use the box on the front page of the website, type in the station name and hit the "go" button and the real times will appear in a list, split northbound and southbound.

    Not coming up for me. Says "Please Select a Station" which I have already done and its just a big white space underneath it :confused:


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,279 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    Yeah, they even got the http://irishrail.ie/ thing right (i.e. you don't need to enter the www to go to the website), something most Irish travel companies seem to be incapable of doing.

    I have to say congratulations to Irish Rail here. I'm usually very critical of IR, but they really have done an excellent job with this new website.

    I look forward to them updating the web booking system and an iPhone app.

    Also hopefully they will implement GTFS-realtime.

    One thing I don't like is that there is almost no mention of Leap Card, they only mention it under the Buy Smart card button. Leap should really be advertised up front on the front page where they currently have the "Smart Card" image.

    Now hopefully DB and BE will follow suit and likewise revamp their websites.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,287 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    Not coming up for me. Says "Please Select a Station" which I have already done and its just a big white space underneath it :confused:

    I'm not sure where you are looking?

    Go to http://irishrail.ie/

    Directly to the right of the picture of the train there is a box with "Live Train & Station Updates" written in it.

    There is a box to type in your station directly underneath that and a button with "GO" on it to the right and further to the right is a further button with "Live Map" on it.

    Just enter the station name and hit "GO" - it should work. Ignore the "Live Map".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,160 ✭✭✭✭banshee_bones


    lxflyer wrote: »
    I'm not sure where you are looking?

    Go to http://irishrail.ie/

    Directly to the right of the picture of the train there is a box with "Live Train & Station Updates" written in it.

    There is a box to type in your station directly underneath that and a button with "GO" on it to the right and further to the right is a further button with "Live Map" on it.

    Just enter the station name and hit "GO" - it should work. Ignore the "Live Map".

    nope! I just get this for hitting "go"

    Sorry lads, ignore that, I must need to update mozilla or something because I just tried it on chrome and it worked :o


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,279 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    Sorry lads, ignore that, I must need to update mozilla or something because I just tried it on chrome and it worked :o

    Works fine for me on Firefox, do you have noscript or similar plugin that stops javascript installed by any chance?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,160 ✭✭✭✭banshee_bones


    bk wrote: »
    Works fine for me on Firefox, do you have noscript or similar plugin that stops javascript installed by any chance?

    I have no idea! Probably, I just looked, theres a load of plugins but I don't understand what have of them do! or mean! :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,346 ✭✭✭dowlingm


    Banshee

    If you go into Help in Firefox there's an option Restart with Addons disabled. You could give that a try.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 fats83


    I'd say the apps feeding off the old site need to reconfigured to the new site - found this http://www.irishrail.ie/cat_faq.jsp?i=4462&ci=1&caID=63&pc=1&gc=0&p=115&n=130 I'd say they will improve this information when the dust settles.

    It is a nice site


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,279 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    fats83 wrote: »
    I'd say the apps feeding off the old site need to reconfigured to the new site - found this http://www.irishrail.ie/cat_faq.jsp?i=4462&ci=1&caID=63&pc=1&gc=0&p=115&n=130 I'd say they will improve this information when the dust settles.

    It is a nice site

    That is cool, pretty well put together API, with both SOAP and REST webservices.

    Looks like it wouldn't be too difficult for them to create GTFS-realtime from this data.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭n97 mini


    Aaargh, it's back!

    http://www.irishrail.ie/news

    Gives
    java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused: connect

    EDIT: working again


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    most times when i try to pick stations from the map it wont work at all! it seems slow but still faster than the old site but still needs a "professional" touch to make it good!


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,004 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    If I leave the real-time results page open for a little bit on page, using Chrome, I'll get a Connection Timeout error eventually.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 632 ✭✭✭jimmyendless


    It takes me an age to buy tickets, 15min waiting to select a seat, just no response.
    Then the next step same story, WTF?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 632 ✭✭✭jimmyendless


    It kept timing out anyway so I had to buy over the phone and apparently my chrome browser on ubuntu and firefox, safari on the mac are all 'too old' and not modern enough to use their fantastic new site.

    And there was no way of emailing me the code for getting the tickets printed, ****ing country.


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