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VW CADDY TDI PROBLEM

  • 15-01-2012 12:08pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 616 ✭✭✭


    I got 2003 caddy tdi van with E/M light on then goes into limp mode,
    The computer shows up acceleration sensor but have fitted 2 and still the same.
    I'm told now it could be the ECU but impossible to get a good one second hand as most at scrapyard are lying up and have took dampness in and are done and they cost a fortune new.
    Any other solutions to this.

    Thanks


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭101sean


    Moved from 4x4, tractors, diggers and plant, more likely to get an answer here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,857 ✭✭✭Andrew33


    And if you switch off ignition and then back on again, does it drive normally again?
    Does it go into limp mode when you floor it for a while under load? if it does, could be a problem with your vacuum hoses running to the turbo. Have you had the fault codes read? More info posted here will get you the answers, a common engine, a few well known and usually easily fixed probs.
    Post up the actual fault codes if you have them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭couldntthink


    Unplug the accelerator pedal. Get a pointy instrument like a needle or a small pointed screwdriver. Try and squeeze the connectors in the plug together. They don't need much squeezing, just a little bit. The contacts can be loose in the plug.

    I've seen this issue a few times. Try that before you go buying anymore parts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 419 ✭✭swhyte027


    Unplug the accelerator pedal. Get a pointy instrument like a needle or a small pointed screwdriver. Try and squeeze the connectors in the plug together. They don't need much squeezing, just a little bit. The contacts can be loose in the plug.

    I've seen this issue a few times. Try that before you go buying anymore parts.


    +1 on this

    It's not a ecu anyway il bet that.even if u do get a ecu it won't work straight away as things have to be coded together and matched up.its not just plug and play so save your money


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,652 ✭✭✭Chimaera


    Limp mode on these is usually related to a boost control problem. Possible culprits are the boost control system: vacuum hoses rot and leak; N75 solenoid fails; MAP sensor dies; turbo control vanes soot up; VNT linkage rusts and seizes or breaks. All of those are far more likely than a faulty accelerator sensor or dead ECU.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 616 ✭✭✭2pack


    From i start the van from cold i can usually go 15 minutes before the dreaded light Comes on and goes into limp mode, i lose throttle completely.
    I did erase the fault immediately with scanner but could only goes minute or so before it was on again.


    Ok quite a few faults have come up
    Here they are

    1.

    18047
    Accelerator position sensor 1 2 G79 G185
    Implausible signal P1639

    2.

    17571
    Fuel temp sensor G81 opel or short to plus P1163

    3

    00741
    Brake pedal monitoring static-implausible signal

    4

    18025
    Glow plug pre heat indicator K29 open or short to ground P1617


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 616 ✭✭✭2pack


    I have managed to clear the faults 2,3 and 4 for now but cannot get rid of 1 (18047)
    just keeps coming back


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭couldntthink


    2pack wrote: »
    I have managed to clear the faults 2,3 and 4 for now but cannot get rid of 1 (18047)
    just keeps coming back


    Did you choose to ignore what I said? Not much point trying to help someone who won't listen.:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 616 ✭✭✭2pack


    I did listen and did try that tip you give me before i posted again on here but i'm afraid it did not work this time for me.
    I appreciate all advice..thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭couldntthink


    Fair enough


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭crosshair1


    The Ecu would be high up the list of culprits on this van,
    You could check the multiplugs into the ecu and open the ecu and inspect for water damage.
    Also a golf tdi ecu would run this van like mk4 agr engine and these dont suffer from the water ingress problem


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭George Dalton


    As above, open up the ECU and look for water damage. If it isn't the pedal or pedal plug contacts it will most likely be the ECU itself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 616 ✭✭✭2pack


    crosshair1 wrote: »
    The Ecu would be high up the list of culprits on this van,
    You could check the multiplugs into the ecu and open the ecu and inspect for water damage.
    Also a golf tdi ecu would run this van like mk4 agr engine and these dont suffer from the water ingress problem

    YOU mention that a golf mk4 ecu would RUN in this van too, but i would need one out of a 90bhp model and would i have to match the codes up too.. Can you elaborate PLEASE?????

    I took the box out and there fair amount of corrosion on the outside of it but the board itself seems ok.
    my ecu code is 038 906 018 FK. engine code ALH


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭crosshair1


    Yes, I keep an ecu on the shelf from a golf tdi agr engine solely for getting these up and going and confirming a faulty ecu , I have used it with success on both sdi and tdi caddy/incas
    ATM its fitted to an sdi until I can get time to fit the correct ecu so I cant get you the code until later this week.
    The only issue with this is that unlike fitting key/immobox and ecu together, you will have to have the pin read from your immo and the replacement ecu adapted to it (the golf has immo in the dash not in a separate controller)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 616 ✭✭✭2pack


    ok so does it matter if its out of a 90bhp or not as long as its engine code agr.

    you say you keep one spare to get these up and running but if i fit one of these agr ecu unit in my van will not start until i code it in, yours must be decoded?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭crosshair1


    All i can tell you is the agr one will work they are all 90bhp, that is a very common engine in the mk4.
    I am able to extract the immo pin for each van, so i can then match the agr ecu to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 616 ✭✭✭2pack


    Thanks i saw 2 mk4 at local breakers so i may be lucky ..
    what device do you use to code these in if you dont mind me asking?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭crosshair1


    The interface i use to extract the pin is autologic.
    There isnt any point checking ebay for one:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭George Dalton


    crosshair1 wrote: »
    The interface i use to extract the pin is autologic.
    There isnt any point checking ebay for one:D

    Is that you Ray? :D

    Are you sure an AGR ECU will work in an ALH? Are they not slightly different because the ALH has a VNT turbo?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭crosshair1


    Yep is indeed
    the agr will definitely run the tdi, think the ahl is the only code fitted
    will be some codes stored but runs without gplug light same with sdi


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 616 ✭✭✭2pack


    ok if i do manage to get one of these ECU's then and plug into my tdi van it will not start it anyway it until i get it coded it.. maybe vag com or ross tech can do this coding


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 616 ✭✭✭2pack


    Ok anyone know if this will work..

    If I were to get a AGR ECU ( or a tdi van ecu with different part number to my own) from local breakers yard and plug it into my own van.
    I then get a VAG device to remove or turn off the immobiliser from the AGR ECU.
    I think my van would start and run ok or am I wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭crosshair1


    "If" it is the ecu at fault... and as the board is clean there is a possibility the fault lies elsewhere.
    If you dont have any equipment you have no choice but to look for the full key/immo/ecu kit from a tdi caddy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 616 ✭✭✭2pack


    hi, was also told that it can be 2 possible things with an ecu first one be dampness due to its location and second if a fault occured it can be stored deep in the ecu and thus cannot be fixed as will reappear so meaning ecu cant be fixed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,652 ✭✭✭Chimaera


    AGR may or may not work. Best bet is to get the ALH one - there's lots of those around so it shouldn't be difficult. You might get away without matching - even if the immo stuff isn't sorted out, it should at least start the engine briefly.


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