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Is it illegal to sell cattle with ringworm?

  • 14-01-2012 11:03pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭


    I was at mart today and a pen of cattle covered in ringworm 4inch square scabs around eyes... Dept of AG guy absent but had he been there would he have prevented them for being presented for sale.. some had horns also

    A dealer/agent bought the majority of them anyway but my question is what would farmer/customer at other end think to see them coming running down the ramp into his clean shed of 200 cattle... would dealer/agent not be risking losing a client by buying those few that could contaminate the lot?!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    There's alot worse things an animal could get. It wouldn't put me off buying them...... at the right money :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    cattle dont die from ringworm, might be unsightly but at the same time i am sure it was reflected in their price


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 631 ✭✭✭ootbitb


    any preventions/cures?

    it's quite nasty when it spreads to the farmer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    i got ringworm when i was 8 , lost my hair:eek: was very lucky it grew back, also had it on my arm and leg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭Bodacious


    whelan1 wrote: »
    i got ringworm when i was 8 , lost my hair:eek: was very lucky it grew back, also had it on my arm and leg

    hi Whelan,

    I think we both agree they don't die from it but it's still a zoonose that you are knowingly welcoming in at the gate with open arms if they are covered in it... I don't have kids yet but if my nieces got it I'd be livid with myself... Plus the cost side/ labour intensive method of treatment ...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭Bodacious


    Anyone know the answer to OP would dept of Agriculture man if present have put them into isolation ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    Hear it from the horses mouth.

    horse.jpg

    Give the dept a ring first thing in the morning


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭Bodacious


    Muckit wrote: »
    Hear it from the horses mouth.

    horse.jpg

    Give the dept a ring first thing in the morning

    Sound Muckit, will do.. If I think of it... Will report back, will do it anonymously also as not to drop anyone or Mart in it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭Bodacious


    Bodacious wrote: »
    Muckit wrote: »
    Hear it from the horses mouth.

    horse.jpg

    Give the dept a ring first thing in the morning

    Sound Muckit, will do.. If I think of it... Will report back, will do it anonymously also as not to drop anyone or Mart in it

    rang them there this evening,

    As I expected as it's not notifiable so it's sell away but if case is very severe so much so that it becomes a welfare issue, as would a badly lame animal or a bad mastitis case then the depending on individual dept of ag man he/she can step in and recommend immediate treatment prior to it returning to be presented for sale.

    Interesting thing he told me was though, if purchaser doesn't not spot it in the ring... He has full rights to back out of sale prior to loading on discovering the animal is positively identified as having the disease, if not announced


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 495 ✭✭Attie


    I had an neighbour who had a cure for any thing from sore head to sore h*le ( now dead } got him once to cure two stores who had lots of angle berries were doing no harm just looked wicked, they fell of in a fortnight.

    Also had ringworm gave me a bit of grief to get rid off as was not allowed to wash for a month eventuilly went.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    Ringworm is a transmissible infectious skin disease caused most often by Trichophyton verrucosum, a spore forming fungi. The spores can remain alive for years in a dry environment. It occurs in all species of mammals including cattle and man. Although unsightly, fungal infections cause little permanent damage or economic loss. Direct contact with infected animals is the most common method of spreading the infection.
    Spores germinate and attack the shafts of the hair and the surface layers of the skin. Exudates ooze from the damaged skin and mix with debris from skin and hair forming a crusty scab. The grayish-white scab is noticeably higher than the surrounding skin. Ringworm is most frequent on the head and neck, but it may be found over the entire body in severe cases. Infection spreads from the center outwards and resulting in a circular lesion. Scabs fall from older lesions leaving a ring with a hairless area in the center. Hence, the name ringworm.

    Ringworm will usually cure itself without treatment. Common treatments include topical application of a 2% solution of iodine, thiabendazole paste or any fungicide used to treat athlete's foot in man.

    from http://cattletoday.info/ringworm.htm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39 Paddy1951


    Is tactic any cure for ringworm in cattle it says it kills mange and lice


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭mf240


    Paddy1951 wrote: »
    Is tactic any cure for ringworm in cattle it says it kills mange and lice

    Give them as much minerals as they will eat and ringworms will be gone in a couple of weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    ringworm is a fungus. Any cure for athlete's foot will kill it. Powder or spray ;)

    A good spray of iodine has also done the trick for me..... (I mean my animals!!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39 Paddy1951


    Thanks for that will give.minerals any one you would reccomended. Andaspray of I oadine


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭mf240


    Paddy1951 wrote: »
    Thanks for that will give.minerals any one you would reccomended. Andaspray of I oadine

    just general purpose minerals are what I use. Worked well last winter for me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭redzerologhlen


    My girlfriends father had a few with it last year and he covered the ringworm in manucka honey and it cured it, it suprised me to be honest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,237 ✭✭✭Username John


    My girlfriends father had a few with it last year and he covered the ringworm in manucka honey and it cured it, it suprised me to be honest.

    Jesus, that manuka honey is expensive stuff to be plastering on cattle :eek:

    Chances are normal honey would do the same, honey is an antiseptic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    honey is an antiseptic.

    Same as iodine
    ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭redzerologhlen


    Jesus, that manuka honey is expensive stuff to be plastering on cattle :eek:

    Chances are normal honey would do the same, honey is an antiseptic.

    Wasnt any dearer than imarevol (spelt badly I know) and he only had to put it on once. Have 7 weanling sgetting it ourselves now so I will try it out on them.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,410 ✭✭✭bbam


    I think I read in the Journal that all the treatments except vaccination were being withdrawn from the Irish market.
    Did anyone else see that or did I just imagine it ?

    Imravol is expensive but works great.
    While it may be no harm it can cause animals discomfort, young animals suffering ongoing discomfort don't usually thrive 100%.

    We always treat it although I see plenty of stock in our local mart with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39 Paddy1951


    A new our told me today osmunda have adisnfectin. steri 7 t a biocidal cleaner that will clear it all up neabour and osmonds spelt wrong might try it with the minnerals


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