German car registration

bymoe

Hi,

I have a question...

I like to buy a car in Germany and wanna register it in Germany as well.
The car will not be registered an my name, I am permanent in Ireland, thats why a registration on my name could be a bit difficult.

Now my question...
I know that I can drive a car with non-irish registration for 12 month in Ireland.
Would it be enough to go back to Germany with the car once a year to get a new 12-month periode?
Or even better... Would it be enough if I go to Northern Ireland once a year?

Thanks for your answers

moe

Mr Benevolent

There'll be Germans along shortly to answer your question. Just don't mention Merkel. Or sauerkraut. Or Volkswagen.

Eleganza

If you were a German you'd know the answer to these questions. If not then you have no business buying a German registered car.
A number plate is not the 4 wheeled equivalent of a flag of convenience.

dr.fuzzenstein

Confab wrote: »

There'll be Germans along shortly to answer your question. Just don't mention Merkel. Or sauerkraut. Or Volkswagen.

Why, it's not a problem.
Of course you can have a Volkswagen as long as you pay your Sauerkraut tax directly to Angela Merkel.
As for your question? Not sure, haven't had a car registered in my name in Germany for 20 years!:P
And where is Confabs post gone?

scoobymunster

Why would you go to the hassle of getting a car german reg'd if you live in ireland fulltime? if its to dodge tolls or something sinister surely getting a NI car would be easier?

n900guy

bymoe wrote: »

Hi,

I have a question...

I like to buy a car in Germany and wanna register it in Germany as well.
The car will not be registered an my name, I am permanent in Ireland, thats why a registration on my name could be a bit difficult.

Now my question...
I know that I can drive a car with non-irish registration for 12 month in Ireland.
Would it be enough to go back to Germany with the car once a year to get a new 12-month periode?
Or even better... Would it be enough if I go to Northern Ireland once a year?

Thanks for your answers

moe

To register a car in Germany (to get the plates) you need to be resident in Germany. Otherwise, you simply won't be able to get plates made. What you get is a short term plate for a few days and insurance with it to drive wherever you want.

It's not that you *can* drive for a magic 12 months and can then renew it. That is for a German (or other EU country) registered resident who is moving or temporarily in Ireland.

If you are resident in Ireland, the car must be put on Irish plates (i.e., VRT'd) within a day AFAIK. The need to put the Irish plates on is based on you being resident in Ireland, not the car's origin or plates.

*IANAL!*

Atlantic Dawn

bymoe wrote: »

Hi,
Now my question...
I know that I can drive a car with non-irish registration for 12 month in Ireland.
Would it be enough to go back to Germany with the car once a year to get a new 12-month periode?
Or even better... Would it be enough if I go to Northern Ireland once a year?

Thanks for your answers

moe

If you are resident in Ireland for more than 183 days a year then you must pay VRT on it, there's no way out of this if you are stopped. Also how do you plan on insuring it, most companies only insure for 30 days cover outside your home country. I take it it's a Veyron or something you are getting that it would be worth all this hassle to save such a vast amount of money?

bymoe

WOW so much replys in such a short time! Thanks!

OK, first of all - why I want to do that...
I just got my license here in Ireland and the insurace I need to pay as a newbee is way too high (in my point of view).
There is someting like a truck-registration in Germany could I pay about 100€ Tax + about 400-500€ insurance, even if have my license less than 1 year.

The car will be registered and insured on someone elses name (thanks to my sister...lol). The 2nd good thing with this truck-registration is that automatically every driver is insured. So I would be insured

So if the car is not owned by me and not registered on my name, am I allowed to drive this car if I am resident for more than 6 month in ireland?
And can I renew the 12 month periode by leaving the country once a year with the car?

cml387

darragh o meara

I'd like to see you try explain that to customs when they stop you the car will be impounded quicker than you can say "heil merkel"

What your suggesting is tax evasion. Plus there will no doubt be insurance implications.

Marcusm

bymoe wrote: »

WOW so much replys in such a short time! Thanks!

OK, first of all - why I want to do that...
I just got my license here in Ireland and the insurace I need to pay as a newbee is way too high (in my point of view).
There is someting like a truck-registration in Germany could I pay about 100€ Tax + about 400-500€ insurance, even if have my license less than 1 year.

The car will be registered and insured on someone elses name (thanks to my sister...lol). The 2nd good thing with this truck-registration is that automatically every driver is insured. So I would be insured

So if the car is not owned by me and not registered on my name, am I allowed to drive this car if I am resident for more than 6 month in ireland?
And can I renew the 12 month periode by leaving the country once a year with the car?

All of these are very bad ideas which would likely involve you and your sister making false declaration which might be more serious offences than the motoring offences you would also commit.

The insurance would almost certainly be invalid and in the event of a claim you and (probably) your sister would end up paying a high price.

An Irish resident may buy a car abroad but once he brings it into Ireland, he has 30 days to arrange for VRT (plus VAT if nearly new) to be paid and the car reregistered. After this period, an Irish resident caught driving such a car is likely to have it seized and crushed followed by a court appearance.

Any of this sound good?

Jimdagym

Marcusm wrote: »

All of these are very bad ideas which would likely involve you and your sister making false declaration which might be more serious offences than the motoring offences you would also commit.

The insurance would almost certainly be invalid and in the event of a claim you and (probably) your sister would end up paying a high price.

An Irish resident may buy a car abroad but once he brings it into Ireland, he has 30 days to arrange for VRT (plus VAT if nearly new) to be paid and the car reregistered. After this period, an Irish resident caught driving such a car is likely to have it seized and crushed followed by a court appearance.

Any of this sound good?

Where did you get 30 days from?

Mr Benevolent

Marcusm wrote: »

An Irish resident may buy a car abroad but once he brings it into Ireland, he has 30 days to arrange for VRT (plus VAT if nearly new) to be paid and the car reregistered.

Nope, he has 7 days.

OP, your entire scheme is illegal. You will be caught, the car will be impounded and you'll lose your licence for driving uninsured. Oh, and you'll have to pay the VRT + penalty.

Marcusm

Jimdagym wrote: »

Where did you get 30 days from?

Revenue guidance dated August 2010 following the effective outsourcing of VRT on imported vehicles to NCT centres.

darragh o meara

The NCT/Revenue have to be notified within 7 days of the car entering the country and you then have a further 23 days to get the car re-registered. This timeframe was introduced as the NCT centers work on a appointment basis ( IE. you can't just call in like you used to be able to do with revenue ) and they are usually booked up.

TestTransmission

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