Iran Threatens to "punish" US, UK and Israel for scientist killing

RobitTV

IRAN is looking at "punishing" those behind the assassination of one of its nuclear scientists, a senior military official said, pointing the finger at the United States, Israel and Britain.

"We consider committing a terrorist act of killing a scientist to be a threat to the nation... We are looking at punishing those who were behind the scenes of the martyrdom (assassination) of Mostafa Ahmadi Roshan," the deputy chief of Iran's joint armed forces, Masoud Jazayeri, was quoted as saying by several media.

Iran's response will be "tormenting" for those responsible, he said, adding: "The enemies of the Iranian nation, such as the United States, Britain and the Zionist regime, should be made accountable for their actions."

Ahmadi Roshan, a 32-year-old deputy director of Iran's main uranium enrichment plant, was killed along with his driver on Wednesday when assassins on a motorbike fixed a magnetic bomb to his car.

Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, said on Thursday that the "abominable" killing was committed "with the planning or support of the intelligence services of the CIA and Mossad" of the United States and Israel.

Khamenei said in a statement that Tehran would "continue with determination" its nuclear activities, which Western governments suspect mask a drive for a weapons capability despite repeated denials.

Some media close to Iran's conservatives have called for "retaliation" against Israeli officials.

http://www.news.com.au/world/iran-mulls-punishing-us-israel-uk-for-killing/story-e6frfkyi-1226244560887

Sunnyisland

Does Iran not threaten Israel & its :zionist: partners nearly every week. Is this really new news ?

zero_hope

realies wrote: »

Does Iran not threaten Israel & its :zionist: partners nearly every week. Is this really new news ?

This assasination was an act of war in itself

A Dub in Glasgo

The Iranians probably planted the bomb to make Israel look bad :pac:

zero_hope

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

The Iranians probably planted the bomb to make Israel look bad :pac:

What evidence do you have?

brimal

zero_hope wrote: »

What evidence do you have?

There is no evidence. Just like there is no evidence that Israel killed this scientist.

A Dub in Glasgo

realies wrote: »

Does Iran not threaten Israel & its :zionist: partners nearly every week. Is this really new news ?

Not the threatening but surely the assassination of Iranian scientists by Israel is news?

A Dub in Glasgo

zero_hope wrote: »

What evidence do you have?

None, that was a tongue firmly in cheek post

nacho libre

It seems like more bluster for domestic consumption to me.

bwatson

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

Not the threatening but surely the assassination of Iranian scientists by Israel is news?

Are you now taking the word of the Iranian government as fact?

Nobody knows at this stage who keeps blowing up Iranian scientists. It would be interesting to find out who the "culprit" really is.

NinjaK

Well if they did retaliate they would have justification. Fair play for standing up for themselves. We could learn a thing or two here.

brimal

NinjaK wrote: »

Well if they did retaliate they would have justification. Fair play for standing up for themselves. We could learn a thing or two here.

Who should they retaliate to? They don't know who did it.

Mr.Micro

brimal wrote: »

Who should they retaliate to? They don't know who did it.

It could be people using false Irish passports, not that that would ever happen.

A Dub in Glasgo

bwatson wrote: »

Are you now taking the word of the Iranian government as fact?

Nobody knows at this stage who keeps blowing up Iranian scientists. It would be interesting to find out who the "culprit" really is.

Yes, Israel abhors Iran and their Nuclear policy and have form for this kind of thing, nah it could not be them!

BlaasForRafa

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

Not the threatening but surely the assassination of Iranian scientists by Israel is news?

He's not the first scientist to be killed actually. The killing was most likely carried out by Iranian anti-government rebels although they may be financed by an outside power like Israel or the US. If Israel is involved then its a more subtle way of derailing the Iranian nuclear effort than using airstrikes.

Interestingly the Iranians are blaming the CIA rather than Mossad http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/iran-we-have-evidence-u-s-killed-nuclear-scientist-in-tehran-1.407286

tricky D

BlaasForRafa wrote: »

The killing was most likely carried out by Iranian anti-government rebels although they may be financed by an outside power like Israel or the US.

This is a common MO for the US and Israel. Compromise or turn someone and get them to do the deed while providing them with the shaped charge explosive, avoiding direct action.

brimal

It could very well be the Iranian regime who did it, given their abhorrent human rights against their own people.

We don't know who did it. If there was any proof found, Iran would sure as hell plaster it all over PressTV and the likes for the whole world to see. But they haven't.

losthorizon

This is actually the fourth assination of an Iranian scientist n recent times. BTW his driver was killed as well. Another scientist was shot dead last week.

Germany has just sold nuclear submarines to Israel according to Janes defence weekly. Doesnt that go against anti-proliferation treaties.

When is terrorism not Terrorism? When its carried out by the west and its allies.

Ellis Dee

It's rather surprising that Iran is making those threats so loudly and I conclude that it must be for domestic consumption. What they should be concentrating on, and probably are, is tightening up their security at home and preparing to give the Americans and their zionazi allies as well as their satyrs in places like Saudi Arabia a taste of their own medicine at every opportunity. Terrorist acts like killing scientists, whether they are done by Mossad thugs or locals that they or the CIA or the corrupt Saudis have compromised, will not seriously slow down Iran's nuclear and missile programmes. Instead, they will only stiffen the resolve of the nation and force many to choose between opposing the Tehran regime and demanding liberalisation and reforms or siding with the Americans and their henchmen. From the Iranians that I know, they will choose the patriotic option first.:)

brimal

Ellis Dee wrote: »

Instead, they will only stiffen the resolve of the nation and force many to choose between opposing the Tehran regime and demanding liberalisation and reforms or siding with the Americans and their henchmen. From the Iranians that I know, they will choose the patriotic option first.:)

I really hope they choose the patriotic option too. They tried it in 2009 and didn't get far.

Also, this week Iran's interior ministry has banned 33 PMs from contesting elections in March http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jan/10/iran-bans-mps-re-election

BlaasForRafa

losthorizon wrote: »

This is actually the fourth assination of an Iranian scientist n recent times. BTW his driver was killed as well. Another scientist was shot dead last week.

Germany has just sold nuclear submarines to Israel according to Janes defence weekly. Doesnt that go against anti-proliferation treaties.

When is terrorism not Terrorism? When its carried out by the west and its allies.

Germany hasn't sold nuclear submarines to Israel, it has sold Diesel-electric submarines which have the capability to fire nuclear cruise missiles from torpedo tubes. Israel has had 3 of this type in service for more than 10 years, the deal was to provide another 2 of the same type.

laoch na mona

a bit of saber rattling nothing more

JustinDee

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

Not the threatening but surely the assassination of Iranian scientists by Israel is news?

Sigh, you know NOTHING about the victims except what you are told by Iranian regime-run media outlets. All information on them in non-Iranian aligned media only has that to go on also. Except for one who was revealed via leaked footage and govt papers as an opponent of the Iranian regime.

Everything else is subjective SPECULATION, regardless of blogs, statements or even anonymous monikers on the internet wiki-wagging and retroactively
cherry -picking any old link that suits them

Icepick

zero_hope wrote: »

This assasination was an act of war in itself

Was this an attack on the Iranian nation (=act of war) or an assassination of a dodgy character working for a despot?

Cardinal Richelieu

losthorizon wrote: »

This is actually the fourth assination of an Iranian scientist n recent times. BTW his driver was killed as well. Another scientist was shot dead last week.

Germany has just sold nuclear submarines to Israel according to Janes defence weekly. Doesnt that go against anti-proliferation treaties.

When is terrorism not Terrorism? When its carried out by the west and its allies.

France and Germany might be borrowing this tactic to deal with the Financial Ratings agencies pretty shortly.:pac:

losthorizon

losthorizon wrote: »

This is actually the fourth assination of an Iranian scientist n recent times. BTW his driver was killed as well. Another scientist was shot dead last week.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/tension-at-new-high-as-iran-vows-to-punish-west-6289848.html

A week ago, the International Atomic Energy Authority (IAEA) confirmed that Iran was now enriching uranium to 20 per cent, a level more appropriate to weapons than energy supply. And, in November, the IAEA issued a document drawing on 1,000 pages of intelligence which said for the first time that some of the alleged experiments can have no other purpose than developing nuclear weapons.

considering how many people just one nuclear bomb could kill i think the bigger deal here is Iran and the nuclear non proliferation treaty

A Dub in Glasgo

& Israel and the nuclear non proliferation treaty?

In fact, all nuclear weapons should be de-commissioned

ed2hands

brimal wrote: »

It could very well be the Iranian regime who did it, given their abhorrent human rights against their own people.

If i replace the word Iran with Isreal in your sentence, i'm an anti-semite according to some.
If i replace the word Iran with the US in your sentence (as in if the US administration killed one of it's own scientists) , i'm a 'conspiracy theorist' according to some.
But it's perfectly acceptable of course to suspect the Iranians kill their own top scientists.

RichieC

JustinDee wrote: »

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

Not the threatening but surely the assassination of Iranian scientists by Israel is news?

Sigh, you know NOTHING about the victims except what you are told by Iranian regime-run media outlets. All information on them in non-Iranian aligned media only has that to go on also. Except for one who was revealed via leaked footage and govt papers as an opponent of the Iranian regime.

Everything else is subjective SPECULATION, regardless of blogs, statements or even anonymous monikers on the internet wiki-wagging and retroactively
cherry -picking any old link that suits them

Dear Santa, this year I would like everyone to be this skeptical of news originating from the west. I know it's a big ask...

BlaasForRafa

RichieC wrote: »

Dear Santa, this year I would like everyone to be this skeptical of news originating from the west. I know it's a big ask...

Dear Santa, this year I'd like the influx of conspiracy theory posters to the Politics forum to go away.

Jonny7

ed2hands wrote: »

But it's perfectly acceptable of course to suspect the Iranians kill their own top scientists.

Woah there, the Iranian regime have no problem killing their own people. There's no reason to rule them out as suspects.

A Dub in Glasgo

Dear Santa, this year I'd like Nuclear weapons to go away

losthorizon

BlaasForRafa wrote: »

Germany hasn't sold nuclear submarines to Israel, it has sold Diesel-electric submarines which have the capability to fire nuclear cruise missiles from torpedo tubes. Israel has had 3 of this type in service for more than 10 years, the deal was to provide another 2 of the same type.

Er but Israel does have nuclear weapons. They were developed with the help of the French according to a report I saw on Euronews recently.

Did it ever cross the Germans mind why Israel wanted submarines that could specifically fire nuclear missiles.

A Dub in Glasgo

Of course not, it is international arms dealing. Look at the way the UK & US almost beg Saudi Arabia for orders

RichieC

BlaasForRafa wrote: »

RichieC wrote: »

Dear Santa, this year I would like everyone to be this skeptical of news originating from the west. I know it's a big ask...

Dear Santa, this year I'd like the influx of conspiracy theory posters to the Politics forum to go away.

I dont post in CT. as ive said before, there are plenty of options available for a man who wants to only hear opinions he agrees with.

Freerepublic.com sounds like your cup of tea.

ed2hands

Jonny7 wrote: »

Woah there, the Iranian regime have no problem killing their own people. There's no reason to rule them out as suspects.

Never said there was. Was not saying rule it out.

Brown Bomber

RobitTV wrote: »

a senior military official said,

Looks like our unnamed source didn't exist. Unless this "punishing" he/she was talking about was a strongly worded letter to the Swiss Embassy
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/14/us-iran-idUSTRE80D0NI20120114

Brown Bomber

brimal wrote: »

It could very well be the Iranian regime who did it, given their abhorrent human rights against their own people.

We don't know who did it. If there was any proof found, Iran would sure as hell plaster it all over PressTV and the likes for the whole world to see. But they haven't.

That's got to be the most stupid thing I've heard in a while. Iran kills one of their own civil servants in a false-flag, extradicial-judicial execution and why...? To allow themselves to "punish" their enemies which in turn gives the enemy causus belli to literally obliterate the country and likely see those who ordered the attack to go the way of Mussolini, Saddam and Gadaffi.

brimal

BlaasForRafa, looks like your wish isn't going to come true.

Brown Bomber, it isn't the most stupid thing you have heard in a while. In fact it's no where near as out-there as half the stuff you discuss in the CT forum.

If it was the other way around, and an Israeli scientist was killed, I don't think you would be as quick to dismiss an Israeli inside job.

I said it's a possibility, that's all. No proof either side.

BlaasForRafa

losthorizon wrote: »

Er but Israel does have nuclear weapons. They were developed with the help of the French according to a report I saw on Euronews recently.

Did it ever cross the Germans mind why Israel wanted submarines that could specifically fire nuclear missiles.

The tubes are built for torpedoes, there isn't anything about them when they are sold that denotes them as being specifically for nuclear missiles. The israelis adapt them so that cruise missiles can be fired from them.

BlaasForRafa

RichieC wrote: »

I dont post in CT. as ive said before, there are plenty of options available for a man who wants to only hear opinions he agrees with.

Freerepublic.com sounds like your cup of tea.

Its funny that although my post wasn't addressed at you, that you felt it described your type of posts.

And I've never been on that site before you post the link and no it isn't my cup of tea, I prefer legitimate news sources like the BBC, Reuters, Al Jazeera, Haaretz etc over partisan stuff, but whatever you want to think is fine.

RichieC

BlaasForRafa wrote: »

RichieC wrote: »

I dont post in CT. as ive said before, there are plenty of options available for a man who wants to only hear opinions he agrees with.

Freerepublic.com sounds like your cup of tea.

Its funny that although my post wasn't addressed at you, that you felt it described your type of posts.

And I've never been on that site before you post the link and no it isn't my cup of tea, I prefer legitimate news sources like the BBC, Reuters, Al Jazeera, Haaretz etc over partisan stuff, but whatever you want to think is fine.

You quoted me so its not really that funny. Ive been round the block with posters such as yourself many times and know all to well your tactic of throwing conspiracy theory allegations out. It's tactic number 2 after anti american/semite barbs.

Overheal

ed2hands wrote: »

If i replace the word Iran with Isreal in your sentence, i'm an anti-semite according to some.

Arabic is a Semitic language too you know.

JustinDee

Overheal wrote: »

Arabic is a Semitic language too you know.

Iranians are not Arabs nor do they speak Arabic.

JustinDee

RichieC wrote: »

Dear Santa, this year I would like everyone to be this skeptical of news originating from the west

I asked before for proof that the likes of Jeremy Bowen, Lyse Ducet, Jon Snow, Rageh Omaar were propagandists.
Got none, of course, because they're not.

With such silly and sweeping generalisms on "media from the West" while coming from "the West", don't expect to be taken seriously.

Dr Galen

OP's that are little more that a C&P aren't generally acceptable

We could also do with a bit more signal and a bit less noise from those who decide to post

Cheers

DrG