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Trap bar deads as a substitute for a squat?

  • 13-01-2012 11:50am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭


    I was reading a few different forums and general consensus was that a trap bar deadlift is more akin to a dumbbell squat than it is a deadlift. I know in my own experience, weight doesnt transfer from trap bar to barbell, but would the tbar be a reasonable alternative for a squat? Reason I ask is my back is playing up and worried that squatting is going to make it ten times worse. I tried front squatting, major fail!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    No. Its not. It is bit more "Squat-like" than "deadlift-like" but it is absolutely no substitute for a squat.

    Get you back, or probably more likely your hips, looked at.
    Why was front squatting so bad?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    You train in Morton right?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    And no, trap bar isn't an acceptable substitute.

    Bulgarian split squats could work.

    You're better off resolving whatever issue is causing all the problems tho.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,348 ✭✭✭the drifter


    a +1 for no its not


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭thehamo


    Sound cheers lads.

    @ d'oracle, I haven't got the flexibility in my shoulders or wrists to get my arms in the proper position to hold the bar on my chest. I do have big problems with my hips but I also suffered two herniated discs a few years back. I got physio etc and it was grand up until I started squatting heavy again. To be honest I think my body is in a hoop from years of playing rugby

    I do Hanley yeah. Haven't been up in a while as I'm giving my self a rest with the back.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,256 ✭✭✭Molly


    Surely you have the flexibility to do cross armed front squats?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭thehamo


    Molly wrote: »
    Surely you have the flexibility to do cross armed front squats?

    Never thought of that :o


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    If spinal loading is truly an issue... I'd probably just avoid it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭thehamo


    Hanley wrote: »
    If spinal loading is truly an issue... I'd probably just avoid it.

    im starting to come to the same conclusion to be honest!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 221 ✭✭daveyc21


    Heavy sled drags are a good substitute. A lot of the older leinster rugby guys use them as they are so beaten up at this stage putting a bar on the back is a big no no


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