honda civic question

zmchris

I own an ek3 jap import 1.5
Did this model come in non vtec ?
Cause i dont notice a change over quick car all the same

Gumbo

zmchris wrote: »

I own an ek3 jap import 1.5
Did this model come in non vtec ?
as the engine in it is non vtec ????
thanks.

the EK 1.5 Civic is a SOHC (Single Overhead Cam) vtec system. its a toned down version of the DOHC vtec and in the EK body, has IIRC 110bhp.

the EK also cam in a 1.4 non vtec version.

zmchris

kceire wrote: »

zmchris wrote: »

I own an ek3 jap import 1.5
Did this model come in non vtec ?
as the engine in it is non vtec ????
thanks.

the EK 1.5 Civic is a SOHC (Single Overhead Cam) vtec system. its a toned down version of the DOHC vtec and in the EK body, has IIRC 110bhp.

the EK also cam in a 1.4 non vtec version.

Yeah i no about al the engine types and so on just the ek3 im trying to pinpoint not sure if its vtec for sure theres no change over as such quick lil motor al the same

andyseadog

110bhp minus ten to fifteen years of dogging wouldn't be much to pull around a civic, couldn't see it being "quick" quick really.

i have never driven a vtec car but it does bug me as to how its hyped as though there could be a distinct wall of incresed power at a certain rpm in a wheezy old civic as if it were turbocharged.

was the 1.5 SOHC vtec not designed for economy not power?

colm_mcm

Proper vtec is as you described andy.

andyseadog

colm_mcm wrote: »

Proper vtec is as you described andy.

as i said, the hype has me curious i'd love to have a drive to get a feel for it.

it gets a lot of talking up though and bs talk too though so its hard to speculate.

Gumbo

zmchris wrote: »

Yeah i no about al the engine types and so on just the ek3 im trying to pinpoint not sure if its vtec for sure theres no change over as such quick lil motor al the same

because its a single cam, the vtec cross over isint as noticeable as it is in the DOHC. Still a nippy little car though for what it is.

LIGHTNING wrote: »

Prepare to be disappointed if you do get to drive one, they way some people talk about them you expect it to be like a F1 car. Nice engine but not the worlds greatest powerplant.

In your opinion of course , where as in my opinion, he wouldnt be dissappointed

zmchris

kceire wrote: »

zmchris wrote: »

Yeah i no about al the engine types and so on just the ek3 im trying to pinpoint not sure if its vtec for sure theres no change over as such quick lil motor al the same

because its a single cam, the vtec cross over isint as noticeable as it is in the DOHC. Still a nippy little car though for what it is.

LIGHTNING wrote: »

Prepare to be disappointed if you do get to drive one, they way some people talk about them you expect it to be like a F1 car. Nice engine but not the worlds greatest powerplant.

In your opinion of course , where as in my opinion, he wouldnt be dissappointed

Well it was wreckin me head all day so finaly got of me arse and checked the engine code its d15b 3 stage vtec had an english sohc vtec before it had a vtec controler i cud notice the change over because vtec came all at the one. So thats probly why i dont notice it as much also had a few b16a,s and the power gains wouldnt let you down

Gumbo

zmchris wrote: »

Well it was wreckin me head all day so finaly got of me arse and checked the engine code its d15b 3 stage vtec had an english sohc vtec before it had a vtec controler i cud notice the change over because vtec came all at the one. So thats probly why i dont notice it as much also had a few b16a,s and the power gains wouldnt let you down

agh right, so its the 130bhp version, as thats the engine that goes into the Ferio models (JDM). thats why it feels a bit nippy

its the B16a's little brother

Seweryn

zmchris wrote: »

I own an ek3 jap import 1.5
Did this model come in non vtec ?
Cause i dont notice a change over quick car all the same

If it is a Japanese model, it is VTEC engined. There were at least 4 versions of the 1.5 engine in the EK3. It is an excellent engine and if you are lucky, you may have the 3-stage VTEC model. It combines great power with very good fuel economy and it is capable of burning lean fuel/air mixture. Very well engineered motor indeed.
It would be my engine of choice if I was looking for one of these .

irlirishkev

Does it say vtec on the engine block?
That's usually a good indication..

zmchris

irlirishkev wrote: »

Does it say vtec on the engine block?
That's usually a good indication..

No it doesnt previous owner must have changed the rocker to non vtec rocker

Seweryn

zmchris wrote: »

No it doesnt previous owner must have changed the rocker to non vtec rocker

On the rocker cover there should be written Honda on it. No indication of VTEC on the cover originally. That is how this engine should look like:

zmchris

Seweryn wrote: »

zmchris wrote: »

No it doesnt previous owner must have changed the rocker to non vtec rocker

On the rocker cover there should be written Honda on it. No indication of VTEC on the cover originally. That is how this engine should look like:

Yep thats the one just tought it was odd with no indication to vtec

copeyhagen

thats the sohc engine you have.

hope you didnt buy that car thinking you were getting a vtec?

plug leads at front = sohc

plug leads in middle(under plug cover) = dohc

Seweryn

copeyhagen wrote: »

thats the sohc engine you have.

hope you didnt buy that car thinking you were getting a vtec?

I bought it thinking that I am getting a VTEC engine, because it is a VTEC engine (3-stage SOHC VTEC to be more precise) .

andyseadog

Seweryn wrote: »

(3-stage SOHC VTEC to be more precise) .

Andyseadog wrote:

it gets a lot of talking up though and bs talk too though so its hard to speculate.

TestTransmission

andyseadog wrote: »

i have never driven a vtec car but it does bug me as to how its hyped as though there could be a distinct wall of incresed power at a certain rpm in a wheezy old civic as if it were turbocharged.

I'm sure somebody here could sort you out

Chris_Heilong

Op you should have the SOHC, here is my 1.5l JDM engine for comparison;

Seweryn

andyseadog wrote: »

Some info about that particular version of the engine :

http://asia.vtec.net/article/d15b/

OP, if your speedo and the rev counter looks like on the last photo, you have got the 3-stage VTEC engine, D15Z7 / D15B.

projectgtr

andyseadog wrote: »

110bhp minus ten to fifteen years of dogging wouldn't be much to pull around a civic, couldn't see it being "quick" quick really.

i have never driven a vtec car but it does bug me as to how its hyped as though there could be a distinct wall of incresed power at a certain rpm in a wheezy old civic as if it were turbocharged.

was the 1.5 SOHC vtec not designed for economy not power?

andyseadog wrote: »

as i said, the hype has me curious i'd love to have a drive to get a feel for it.

it gets a lot of talking up though and bs talk too though so its hard to speculate.

They are a fun car to drive and quick for what they are, but anyone that talks it up like a turbo is talking bull, with certain intake and exhaust setups the crossover is very loud, but the more modified race going versions tend to lose the system with "Vtec killer cams" , they are a fun revy engine and once maintained well take dogs abuse all day long, ive done numerous track days and drove all across europe to drive the ring and not one thing has gone wrong, only consumables needed replacing oils filters brakes clutch. Oh and my EK is a 95 and is more or less standard and was rolling roaded in a reputable shop @ 169 , just above factory

LIGHTNING wrote: »

Prepare to be disappointed if you do get to drive one, they way some people talk about them you expect it to be like a F1 car. Nice engine but not the worlds greatest powerplant.

Seriously? Now i dont think they are the best thing since sliced bread but they are very fun to drive, out of interest what NA 1.6 or 1.8 would you rate above them only one i can think of is the SR16VE from the N1 but thats barely a production car.Oh and anyone who thinks of the like an F1 engine needs their heads examined

zmchris wrote: »

Well it was wreckin me head all day so finaly got of me arse and checked the engine code its d15b 3 stage vtec had an english sohc vtec before it had a vtec controler i cud notice the change over because vtec came all at the one. So thats probly why i dont notice it as much also had a few b16a,s and the power gains wouldnt let you down

Its not a bad engine at all, a nice mix of economy and nippyness, crossover with standard exhaust and intake isnt going to be loud at all, your never really going to have the crossover of a DOHC as the vtec system only works on the intake as opposed to the intake and exhaust on the DOHC. Dont bother with a Vtec controller its not going to do you any favours as its not going to change the air or fuel to match the new Vtec point, infact you might lose power.

Guys in the states go mad for those D series engines, plenty of them running 3-400whp on boosted D series

zmchris

copeyhagen wrote: »

thats the sohc engine you have.

hope you didnt buy that car thinking you were getting a vtec?

plug leads at front = sohc

plug leads in middle(under plug cover) = dohc

Bought the car thinking it was a 1.5 sohc non vtec as i said iv had a few dohcs before just tought this one was a bit odd has all the extras electrics aircon clocks are kilometers the car is as sweet as a nut flew true nct bought it of a lady driver delited that i got more than i bargained for

projectgtr

zmchris wrote: »

Bought the car thinking it was a 1.5 sohc non vtec as i said iv had a few dohcs before just tought this one was a bit odd has all the extras electrics aircon clocks are kilometers the car is as sweet as a nut flew true nct bought it of a lady driver delited that i got more than i bargained for

Any pictures of it?

Seweryn

zmchris wrote: »

...the car is as sweet as a nut flew true nct bought it of a lady driver delited that i got more than i bargained for

That is the most important thing. Happy Motoring! .

Post a photo of your engine or have a look at the photos already posted and see what you have got.

zmchris

its defo vtec d15b engine code ill get some pics up soon