Awkward situation

LegacyUser

Going unreg for this.

I can't stand my flatmate. Lots of reasons and some are probably selfish as I lived on my own till I needed to rent out a room for financial reasons.

I've had a few lodgers and got on great with them. They had their own lives, did their own things, but this one is totally and utterly joyless.

He is not Irish and always takes up any opportunity to moan about Ireland and Irish people. I ended up telling him to cop on in that I didn't want to hear it. I am not Irish either so I think maybe he thought he had an ally in me.

He works and has a car and yet every day he has off is spent in the apartment. He is staying in his room a lot but when he is in the sitting room it is like groundhog day. Everything is so negative - all poor me and yet I am not working, struggling financially and don't need to listen to how crap everything is.

There is an upstairs bathroom that I use. He has a massive ensuite downstairs and yet he uses my bathroom when I am not here - I know as he leaves the toilet seat up. I'm female and all my girlie stuff is in that bathroom.

I had a gentleman friend over recently and thought he may make himself scarce for an hour or two but he stayed in all night and the next day so hanky panky was a no go as his room is right next to mine and I didn't feel comfortable.

I can't afford to ask him to move out as it could be months till I get someone in.

He has been 'out' 3 times in 3 months. He seems resentful of my life and yet has made no effort to make friends at all.

I know I just have to learn to accept the situation, but it's hard not having any time to myself ever. Even when he is in his room he is still here and pops in and out of the sitting room.

He also has never once hoovered or tidied the communal areas. It took him a month to take a bin out.

I don't think I have ever felt so miserable living with someone. I want to tell him to stay out of the upstairs bathroom but I know he is the type to get the hump and then act all put out for days. I'd be the baddie.

Anyone ever had to live with someone like this? A few of my friends think he sounds depressed. I don't know if he is. He's early 40s.

Anyone got any idea how I can make this work, or is it as dire as I think it is?

Thanks for reading.

baby and crumble

OP, no offense, but you're the one letting this man live in your house. YOU make the rules. I've lived with owner occupiers before, and you have to go by them. It's their house after all.

My opinion is, you give this guy fair warning- that he's not fulfilling his duties as a loger, and if it doesn't change, you're giving him notice. He sounds like a user and a chancer. Put your foot down- it is your home.

LegacyUser

Thanks baby & crumble.

I feel stuck between a rock and a hard place. I need the rent to pay the mortgage.

I know it is my place and at his age I feel I shouldn't need to ask him to clean up. He is sly. He never uses the upstairs bathroom when I am here. Only when I am not.

I was away at the weekend and made a point of shutting the bathroom door (can't lock it as it only locks from the inside) - I've never done that before. I came home to find the door open. It is just laziness on his part as he can't be bothered going downstairs to his own bathroom. He must know I don't want him in there or he'd use it when I am there IYSWIM.

The situation is tense as I am a really chatty person and yet I can't bring myself to say more than a few words to him and then he seems pissed off.

He comes home at the same time every day. Same coversation (depressive). He moans about everything. It is really bringing me down.

I know I need to say something and will, but it is going to make things so much worse. I suppose that is the way it has to be. I've not been a landlord long and this is the first time I've had to ever do something like this.

I know when you share a place you give up your privacy somewhat. But he is just always here. Days off are spent here, weekends spent here.

I just wish he'd go get a life for himself but I know I can't ask or expect that. It's just so depressing. Any chance I get to stay with friends, I take, and I know that isn't right.

Ellie2008

xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: »

Thanks baby & crumble.

I feel stuck between a rock and a hard place. I need the rent to pay the mortgage.

I know it is my place and at his age I feel I shouldn't need to ask him to clean up. He is sly. He never uses the upstairs bathroom when I am here. Only when I am not.

I was away at the weekend and made a point of shutting the bathroom door (can't lock it as it only locks from the inside) - I've never done that before. I came home to find the door open. It is just laziness on his part as he can't be bothered going downstairs to his own bathroom. He must know I don't want him in there or he'd use it when I am there IYSWIM.

The situation is tense as I am a really chatty person and yet I can't bring myself to say more than a few words to him and then he seems pissed off.

He comes home at the same time every day. Same coversation (depressive). He moans about everything. It is really bringing me down.

I know I need to say something and will, but it is going to make things so much worse. I suppose that is the way it has to be. I've not been a landlord long and this is the first time I've had to ever do something like this.

I know when you share a place you give up your privacy somewhat. But he is just always here. Days off are spent here, weekends spent here.

I just wish he'd go get a life for himself but I know I can't ask or expect that. It's just so depressing. Any chance I get to stay with friends, I take, and I know that isn't right.

Hi OP,

I'm going to disagree a little here and say while you are right about the bathroom and there would be no harm in just saying it to him....if he is paying Market rent he is entitled to be there 24/7 if he chooses to be. I have lived with an owner occupier who very much had one rule for me and another for himself and I always felt it was unfair of course if he is the landlord he can make the rules to a point. Of course your tenant sounds unbearable and if you renot in a financial position to ask him to leave maybe just take a step back and don't encourage him to chat that way he nay take a hint & hang out in his room.

LegacyUser

I totally understand what you are saying and I know he has every right to be there 24/7. It's just I have never lived with anyone that is always at the home. Days off are spent there, all weekends. I know I am in no position to complain as he is within his right.

When he moved in he didn't pay me a deposit - I asked for a month's rent. It was not forthcoming but has been playing on my mind so I asked him this morning. He looked and put out to be honest and grumbled something or other. I said that I need it for security.

It's just that at his age I'd have thought he'd know how these things work. I have no idea what the state of his room is like as obviously I don't go in there and wouldn't, but I am entitled to the deposit.

I have decided to make an attempt to not let it get me down. I can't change the situation and he does at least pay his rent on time.

He will push rubbish into the bin so that he doesn't have to empty it. I delibertely put it all in a big black bin bag and left it next to the bin when I was away last Friday and when he came back he had actually taken it out. Shock horror!

I think I need to speak up more and will. Thanks for your advice. It has helped.

omega666

Thanksfortheadvice wrote: »

I totally understand what you are saying and I know he has every right to be there 24/7. It's just I have never lived with anyone that is always at the home. Days off are spent there, all weekends. I know I am in no position to complain as he is within his right.

When he moved in he didn't pay me a deposit - I asked for a month's rent. It was not forthcoming but has been playing on my mind so I asked him this morning. He looked and put out to be honest and grumbled something or other. I said that I need it for security.

It's just that at his age I'd have thought he'd know how these things work. I have no idea what the state of his room is like as obviously I don't go in there and wouldn't, but I am entitled to the deposit.

I have decided to make an attempt to not let it get me down. I can't change the situation and he does at least pay his rent on time.

He will push rubbish into the bin so that he doesn't have to empty it. I delibertely put it all in a big black bin bag and left it next to the bin when I was away last Friday and when he came back he had actually taken it out. Shock horror!

I think I need to speak up more and will. Thanks for your advice. It has helped.

I’ve rented with a lot of people over the years and the one thing I learned is its very hard to change people’s behavior.
My suggestion is that if you’re not happy with the situation then look for a new tenant as your resentment will just fester.

It’s your home and if you’re not happy take some action. It may be a pain the ass looking for someone and you might lose a month
rent but in the long run if you find someone you get on with then it would be worth it.

LegacyUser

Thanks Omega

I have rented a lot over the years and I suppose I am finding it a bit strange to move into 'landlady' role.

I guarantee I am not difficult to live with and would put up with a lot. I really just have nothing in common with him. He said he was moving to the area because it was more lively than where he was living and I thought oh, OK, at least he likes to be out and about.

This has not happened at all. He has no hobbies or life outside of work and the apartment and I think that is where the strain is showing.

I really cannot afford to lose a month's rent at all. I know that sounds like a cop out, but it isn't. I would drop into arrears if I don't have that money and I really don't want that to happen. If I could afford to, I would tell him it isn't working out.

I know this isn't forever and I should be grateful I have a tenant. I don't mean to come off like a right uppity bi@tch because I am not. I just want to feel happy in my home again.

Is it too much to ask that occassionally he hoovers the sitting area or mops the floor?

magicwok

I feel sorry for the guy that didnt get hanky panky more than anything

LovelyLottie

OP - it's your apartment/house and you need to bite the bullet and do something about the situation. Fair enough if the person is just a bit annoying but otherwise ok, but it sounds like you're not happy at all with this tenant.

Re-advertise your room and tell him that you're so sorry but your sister / friend / anyone you can think of is looking to move in and you're giving him one month's notice. Like it or lump it.

I am an owner and have a tenant. She has the room with the ensuite. She never uses my bathroom (which is the main one) as she has her own private one, and like you i'd be p1ssed off if she did. We are not buddies but she is respectful of my space as i am of hers. After the initial agreement (can't remember if it was a year or six months but i think it was six months) ran out, i said to her that if she wanted to move out at any point just give me a month's notice and in my mind it's the same. If my sister wanted to move back in I'd give her a month's notice.

You're putting up with a situation that you don't really have to. If you're scared of him getting aggressive or mouthy with you when you have the conversation, ask a friend to be around in the place when you have the chat.

I know it's an awkward situation, but it's one that you can do something about. Re-advertise and get someone new in.

LovelyLottie

Oh and re the hoovering, cleaning etc., as it's your place you're going to be more house-proud than him anyway. My tenant is the same. Cleans her room but rarely does the common areas. I just do it as it's my place and i want to keep it nice, and overall i'm not too bothered about it (she always pays rent and bills immediately).

But in your case, you are bothered about it - so just another reason to get someone else in!

LegacyUser

I so can relate to your situation, but in my case its possibly worse because I live with my sister, but her boyfriend has now moved in, 'cant afford' to contribute rent, is there ALL time when shes not, and i work a lot at home. I liked him at the start and am now beginning to dread coming home and seeing him grown into the same spot on the couch, day in, day out.
If I were you I would as soon as possible start advertising for a new house mate. And state the date they can move in and give the required amount of notice to him for moving out. Its your house, and you cant be living in such an awkward situation. Now you dont have to tell him the truth ,that you're simply getting a new house mate, just tell him your circumstances have changed and can no longer have a lodger, just make up something. And in the mean time get a lock for the bathroom!!!

Starokan

When your living with someone you have to get on with them, if you cant get on with him then you have to give him notice and ask him to leave and find another tenant.

If you want to give him a chance, then sit him down and spell out the house rules, ie he has to clean and uses his own bathroom only. I find it pretty strange that he uses your bathroom to be honest when he has his own. That's really not on.

Re spending all his time in the house, im afraid there is nothing you can do about this and in all honesty you have no grounds for complaint here, he is paying for the right to be at home 24/7 if he wants. I sympathise with what your saying but even though he works , he may not have spare money for socialising or may not have friends to enable him to get out.

Reading your posts i think this tenant is just someone you will never get on with, his personality does not suit yours. That's not your fault or his , its just one of those things.

I think giving him notice is your best option, give him plenty of time to find somewhere and then get a new tenant, hopefully at most you are a couple of weeks without a tenant. It may be best to get an Irish person as a tenant this time in that they may have more friends/family and may go away for weekends to see family etc which allows you some space and time on your own.

LegacyUser

Thanks for your replies

Yes, the bathroom thing bothers me a good bit. I never had that problem with previous tenants - they always used their own. I keep my PJs in there and cosmetics/perfume etc and he has a big ensuite. It is just laziness I think - and coming home and finding the loo set up really grates.

I hear what you are saying about a personality clash. I've had a rough 12 months and don't need to be constantly reminded of how bad he has it. He has a good job, his rent is low so I very much doubt it is a case of him having no money to go anywhere - he just doesn't want to. Again, totally his choice.

When he moved in he mentioned joining a gym and said he usually would go 3-4 times a week. That never happened and yes, I am hearing he has every right to be there all the time. I suppose it wouldn't be an issue if we actually got on. Also, saying he moved to the area because it was more lively than his last place obviously was just a line for me to think he wouldn't be there all the time.

I'm not sure how long I should wait for the deposit. He looked shocked and hummed and harred about it. As he probably spends €40 a week on food (he makes his own sandwiches every day) I don't think it is a case of him not having the money stashed away somewhere.

I will have a chat to him and see what comes of it. He may be so p*ssed off with me that he decides to move out anyway.

I like a clean house, but am not a tyrant about it. I suppose I am thinking more about the fact he doesn't clean as he has to be pushed into removing a bin - a job that takes all of 5 minutes.

I really appreciate your replies. Thanks.

LegacyUser

magicwok wrote: »

I feel sorry for the guy that didnt get hanky panky more than anything

... he'll live.

magicwok

dontworry... wrote: »

... he'll live.

Ah thats good to know, this has happened me a few times in the past and it took me ages to move on from it, I'm over now thank god

Killed By Death

If he hasn't paid a deposit then you don't have to give him notice. So if he's only paid for January, tell him he has to go by the end of January.

Don't be a soft touch. You said upthread you would look like the 'baddie' if you said something to him. Well, so what. You'll never see him again after he moves out, what do you care?

You'll easily find someone by the end of January. It's his own fault it didn't work out. Nothing for you to feel guilty about.

LegacyUser

magicwok wrote: »

Ah thats good to know, this has happened me a few times in the past and it took me ages to move on from it, I'm over now thank god

He was incredibly understanding given the circumstances. We actually had a bit of a joke about it.

Maybe it is just me, but if the situation was reversed, I'd be sure to give my flatmate a bit of space. It was the first time I had someone over in my room since he has lived there (3 months) so it isn't like he would have been overly put out.

Anyway, it is a moot point really as he has every right to stay in his room 24/7.

Thanks for the laugh though.

LegacyUser

Killed By Death wrote: »

If he hasn't paid a deposit then you don't have to give him notice. So if he's only paid for January, tell him he has to go by the end of January.

Don't be a soft touch. You said upthread you would look like the 'baddie' if you said something to him. Well, so what. You'll never see him again after he moves out, what do you care?

You'll easily find someone by the end of January. It's his own fault it didn't work out. Nothing for you to feel guilty about.

Thank you Killed by Death. I am not living in a big city and it took me two months to get this guy in. As stated, I will fall into arrears if he moves out. I am going to talk to him and see if things improve. It's worth a shot.

I once told him he has to lock the front door when he is home and downstairs as anyone could walk in and he wouldn't hear them. He said that was a fair point and has locked the door since.

I think he just needs thing spelled out to him.

magicwok

lolniceone wrote: »

He was incredibly understanding given the circumstances. We actually had a bit of a joke about it.

Maybe it is just me, but if the situation was reversed, I'd be sure to give my flatmate a bit of space. It was the first time I had someone over in my room since he has lived there (3 months) so it isn't like he would have been overly put out.

Anyway, it is a moot point really as he has every right to stay in his room 24/7.

Thanks for the laugh though.

One of these days your flatmate will have run out of boxsets to watch and then he's rightly scewed, thats when he will have to get out of the house to give you some space, I'd say you cant wait for him to join that gym, january is as good a time to join a gym so discuss the benefits of it and tell him what a se*xy animal he will become with a few workouts in the gym

LegacyUser

magicwok wrote: »

One of these days your flatmate will have run out of boxsets to watch and then he's rightly scewed, thats when he will have to get out of the house to give you some space, I'd say you cant wait for him to join that gym, january is as good a time to join a gym so discuss the benefits of it and tell him what a se*xy animal he will become with a few workouts in the gym

He isn't joining the gym. He said he was 3 months ago and got the brochures but obviously changed his mind when he saw the cost. The gym aint happening - guaranteed.

Janet1986

Find another lodger, maybe famale?

Taltos

magicwok - welcome to PI/RI.
If you have not already done so can you please review our Charter.

We request all posters to keep posts constructive.

Thanks
Taltos

magicwok

Taltos wrote: »

magicwok - welcome to PI/RI.
If you have not already done so can you please review our Charter.

We request all posters to keep posts constructive.

Thanks
Taltos

Whatever happened to a bit of lighthearted humour?

forzacalcio

One thing I wonder what is the problem with leaving the toilet seat up?
Why does it have to be left down? Genuine question.

The majority of answers I get are "Why should I have to touch the toilet seat?" I reply "Why do we?"

We dont give out about it being down so let that go for one!

Now for my opinion, use the sister, brother, cousin trick.

Taltos

magicwok - PI/RI is not for entertainment purposes.

Once more I am asking you to please review our Charter.

For example:
Questioning a mod action in a thread in the Personal Issues forum is considered off topic and unhelpful posting and may result in a ban from the forum.

Thanks
Taltos

LegacyUser

I read through your post, sorry to hear about your situation,

Why not use the new year as a good excuse to chat to him about a cleaning rota/ plan in the house?? its also a good time to set out rules about any issues,such as the door thing.

If he needs things spelt out to him, then doing it in this way might really help your situation

LegacyUser

Well, it was another weekend of same-old. He was off work yesterday and asked what I was up to for the day. I replied I was meeting a friend for coffee and asked what he was up to. I knew it would be the answer I got: "not a lot. Work was very busy this week and I'm wrecked".

Cue him being in all day. He has still not given me his deposit. I am thinking of texting him now to bring it home with him. If I wait till he gets home he can fob me off with the fact he doesn't want to go out after being home.

He was off all day yesterday and could have easily given it to me, but didn't. I am sure he has it as he works in a managerial position. Unless of course he has a family stashed away somewhere that I don't know about and I consider that very unlikely.

What would you do? Text a firm message saying bring it home or leave it and say it to him face-to-face again?

As he seems to be very tight and spends very little I am sure he hasn't simply 'forgot'.

magicwok

meeeeeagain wrote: »

Well, it was another weekend of same-old. He was off work yesterday and asked what I was up to for the day. I replied I was meeting a friend for coffee and asked what he was up to. I knew it would be the answer I got: "not a lot. Work was very busy this week and I'm wrecked".

Cue him being in all day. He has still not given me his deposit. I am thinking of texting him now to bring it home with him. If I wait till he gets home he can fob me off with the fact he doesn't want to go out after being home.

He was off all day yesterday and could have easily given it to me, but didn't. I am sure he has it as he works in a managerial position. Unless of course he has a family stashed away somewhere that I don't know about and I consider that very unlikely.

What would you do? Text a firm message saying bring it home or leave it and say it to him face-to-face again?

As he seems to be very tight and spends very little I am sure he hasn't simply 'forgot'.

Nightmare, easiest thing to do there would be to text him and tell him your going to need that deposit in the next week or you could stamp your authority on the situation and say it to his face but that will cause an awkward situation, basically he's a pri*ck for not giving it to you by now, bang out of order altogether. At the end of the day you really need to get rid of this guy because things should never be awkward in the house where you live(well unless one is having marital problems but nor here nor there)

LegacyUser

magicwok wrote: »

Nightmare, easiest thing to do there would be to text him and tell him your going to need that deposit in the next week or you could stamp your authority on the situation and say it to his face but that will cause an awkward situation, basically he's a pri*ck for not giving it to you by now, bang out of order altogether. At the end of the day you really need to get rid of this guy because things should never be awkward in the house where you live(well unless one is having marital problems but nor here nor there)

Well, I text him at 4.30pm to bring the deposit home with him. He replied back 'sorry, I won't have it till the end of the month as I didn't account for it when you asked me in January.'

I didn't reply back. I am really annoyed. He was paying double the rent and more before he moved in with me so he can afford it. He goes nowhere ever and yet he expects me to believe he has no savings at all. This weekend he worked sat and spent all his day off (sun) in the apartment/his room. As well as all sat night as, like I said, he has no friends or life.

There is no way I would have said I didn't want a deposit when he moved in. He is 40 years of age ffs. He knows how it works.

Right now I am in my room as I cannot even face to look at him - he has just come home.

I can't stand this and want him gone but it is not easy to get someone where I live - this isn't Dublin or a big city. As said, without his rent I will fall into arrears.

I seriously cannot even bring myself to look at him. I do not believe he doesn't have the money.

Juicyfruit

annoyed_op wrote: »

Well, I text him at 4.30pm to bring the deposit home with him. He replied back 'sorry, I won't have it till the end of the month as I didn't account for it when you asked me in January.'

He's been there 3 months, he should have accounted for it ages ago.. tbh it's obvious he is fobbing you off and is now making it out that it's your fault for only asking for it in January.

He's a grown man and is obviously taking advantage of the situation, I think it's time you put your foot down OP.

You shouldn't be made to feel like this in your own home.

lazygal

I'd tell him you've a mate who's stuck and needs the room so he'll have to be gone by the end of the month. He hasn't stuck to the standard deposit rule so I wouldn't feel the need to give him more notice. I've not shared a flat before but any mates who have have always had a rota for communal areas and who uses what would be made clear before you moved in.

I would cut my losses, life's too short to spend time tiptoeing around this guy. If he's slow paying the deposit that's a red flag for me, he might well start being slow paying the rent.

LegacyUser

Well,

He came up to me yesterday evening and said he will give the money to me next week. He said that he had a €800 bill for his car that he recently got and has to pay. I don't actually believe him as he is such a moaner he'd have told me about the bill as soon as he got it- yes, he is that bad.

He said it is something to do with the engine, but as he has never had the car in a garage I find the whole story ridiculous (if he was gone out of the place for even 10minutes outside of his schedule I'd have noticed it).

Anyway, he said he'd pay me the deposit "next week". If it doesn't materialise then I will ask him to leave.

I am really trying, but I just find him really strange/not to mention a freakin' pain. There is no way he doesn't have €350 in his bank - I just don't buy it. Anyway, as I said... next week.

I am going to be firmer on everything as well. He can start pulling his weight. I am not the landlady/maid. The party is over. Thanks for all your great advice. I needed to get a bit fired up and I am now.

tinkerbell

OP, first of all you need to install a lock in your bathroom door.

Secondly, you need to tell him the house rules - and that does not include skulking around in your bathroom. Tbh, that is really creepy that he's using your bathroom, and it's also rude - he's got his own bathroom, he doesn't need to use yours as well.

Idle Passerby

Why dont you start advertiseing the room now for his replacement. Tell him that since he hasn't paid a deposit you are looking for a new tenant. It might spur him to pay it but it wont make him a better person to share your house with. Id just look for someone new and when you find someone you like give him a week to move out, although you dont even owe him that since he's already freeloading by not paying what he owes you.

LegacyUser

tinkerbell wrote: »

OP, first of all you need to install a lock in your bathroom door.

Secondly, you need to tell him the house rules - and that does not include skulking around in your bathroom. Tbh, that is really creepy that he's using your bathroom, and it's also rude - he's got his own bathroom, he doesn't need to use yours as well.

As said, I really cannot afford to get rid of him. It took me months to get someone and financially I am screwed if he goes and I have to spend two months waiting for someone.

I don't have the money to get a lock put on the bathroom door at the moment and tbh would prefer to just say stay out than go to the expense.

I have started closing the door all the time, putting the toilet seat down and then putting stuff on the toilet set (make-up and stuff). He would have to take it all off to use the toilet and I really can't see him being bothered to do that when he only has to go down a flight of stairs to use his own toilet.

Yes, it does creep me out that he uses it. My pjs are kept in there - all my stuff, toiletries, tampons etc etc. It's just weird he'd even consider it. Why only use it when I am NOT there? That to me shows he is sly.

I cannot remember if I said 'this is my bathroom' when he moved in. I really can't. I suppose as the two previous male tenants (both considerably younger) never went in it I possibly didn't. I may well be at fault in that regard.

The bin is starting to fill up so I will hold out till Friday when I know he is off and see if he bothers to take it out. If he doesn't I will ask him to do it.

I really appreciate all your replies. I was starting to think maybe I was just being unreasonable because I just don't like him. And maybe I am in some regards?

tinkerbell

OP, stop making excuses. DO something about this problem. Tell the guy that you have noticed that he is using your bathroom when you are not there. Tell him that you'd prefer it if he used his own bathroom since he has an ensuite so he has no reason to be using yours.

I didn't say you have to throw him out of the house, I said lay down the house rules to him. Surely you can buy a cheap lock for the bathroom door. Failing that - tell him he is not to use your bathroom. Stop asking questions on here about why is he doing it (who knows?) and tell him he is not to use it anymore. Problem solved.

LegacyUser

tinkerbell wrote: »

OP, stop making excuses. DO something about this problem. Tell the guy that you have noticed that he is using your bathroom when you are not there. Tell him that you'd prefer it if he used his own bathroom since he has an ensuite so he has no reason to be using yours.

I didn't say you have to throw him out of the house, I said lay down the house rules to him. Surely you can buy a cheap lock for the bathroom door. Failing that - tell him he is not to use your bathroom. Stop asking questions on here about why is he doing it (who knows?) and tell him he is not to use it anymore. Problem solved.

OK, no need to lose the rag with me

I am not usually a walkover. I suppose saying it to him is going to really change the house dynamics. I know enough of him to know he is not the sort of person to brush it off. He will probably seethe over it. It's not like he has anything else to be doing/thinking about.

I know I have to say something. I am not forking out for a locksmith to come and put in a lock. That is madness when I can just say stay out.

As said, I am not sure if I said he wasn't to use the bathroom (and for the record this is not an excuse) - if I didn't say it then I can see why he is using it - although I do think it lazy and weird.

The guy is odd, OK, he isn't the sort of person I have lived with before that I can have a bit of banter with and say 'oi, stop slacking and take out the rubbish ha ha ha'.

Will sort it out and not post again as it is obvious I am only p/ssing people off.

Mods, feel free to lock. Thanks.

Beruthiel

opbackagain wrote: »

Mods, feel free to lock. Thanks.

Done.