Returning to Training

closeline

Returning to training. Anyone else have the same feeling as me. I am not looking forward to going back. Not one bit. If anyone has a bit of advice could ye please PM and I will give the full story.

RickRoll

Same here, we are back on Wednesday, the thoughts of it, we won't see a football for a month either.

closeline

RickRoll wrote: »

Same here, we are back on Wednesday, the thoughts of it, we won't see a football for a month either.

What kinda physical work do ye do..Would you be quite fit.

Just An Opinion

I know the feeling, mixed feelings really. Looking forward to the new season but really hate the pre season gruel. Shuttles, burpies, incline sprints etc, pure torture but come feb it will be worth it for the 1st throw in. Best of luck, I know i will need it anyway!

nice_guy80

Just An Opinion wrote: »

I know the feeling, mixed feelings really. Looking forward to the new season but really hate the pre season gruel. Shuttles, burpies, incline sprints etc, pure torture but come feb it will be worth it for the 1st throw in. Best of luck, I know i will need it anyway!

if you had done some training yourself over the winter it would make it whole lot easier
any trainer making players do burpees in this day and age should be shot

Just An Opinion

nice_guy80 wrote: »

if you had done some training yourself over the winter it would make it whole lot easier
any trainer making players do burpees in this day and age should be shot

Well im paying for ill discipline over christmas, i wont be alone either.

Mike O' Brien

back last night, by jesus I was stiff this morning. And not in a good way.

Stevecw

Back tomorrow, dreading the thought of it! Gonna be a lot of running followed by a lot of throwing up happening!! And Thursday will feel like an old man, barely able to move!

woodchopper

nice_guy80 wrote: »

if you had done some training yourself over the winter it would make it whole lot easier
any trainer making players do burpees in this day and age should be shot

What wrong with burpees?

Anyway it makes no sense to hammer into training after 2 months of non activity. It only increases the likelyhood of injuries as the body has not developed the requiste resistance levels that are brought about by a gradually increasing and challenging training programme. I know many coaches mean well but really no other sport throws their athletes into heavy training after a long layoff.

Getting sick does not mean you are doing a great and challenging workout but rather ones body is not ready or able to withstand the training intensity. How many elite cyclists to you see puking their guts up after a long fast cycle. Answer equals very few. Build a strong aerobic base and the body will be able to handle the intense speed endurance workouts necessary to cover the groung in a GAA match later on in the season.

Regards
Woodchopper

RickRoll

closeline wrote: »

What kinda physical work do ye do..Would you be quite fit.

We will be doing indoor circuit (weights, push ups, pull ups, burpees, skipping rope, etc) training for a few weeks then we will get into sprints and long runs. Then maybe we will actually play some football.

nice_guy80

woodchopper wrote: »

What wrong with burpees?

Anyway it makes no sense to hammer into training after 2 months of non activity. It only increases the likelyhood of injuries as the body has not developed the requiste resistance levels that are brought about by a gradually increasing and challenging training programme. I know many coaches mean well but really no other sport throws their athletes into heavy training after a long layoff.

Getting sick does not mean you are doing a great and challenging workout but rather ones body is not ready or able to withstand the training intensity. How many elite cyclists to you see puking their guts up after a long fast cycle. Answer equals very few. Build a strong aerobic base and the body will be able to handle the intense speed endurance workouts necessary to cover the groung in a GAA match later on in the season.

Regards
Woodchopper

burpees should be known as 'spinal surgerees'...
very bad on the back, along with mountain climbers. Why do them??

woodchopper

nice_guy80 wrote: »

burpees should be known as 'spinal surgerees'...
very bad on the back, along with mountain climbers. Why do them??

Thats fair enough.

I presume you have a wealth of experience or evidence to back up these claims. Im afraid hearsay and speculation have no room in sports performance.

Regards Woodchopper

closeline

Anyone else be doing long distance running and really struggling at it. I always struggle at fitness. Out of 25 id be the 5th/6th worst. Trying to get into my mind that as long as I am doing it as hard as I can it doesnt matter how far back I am. However, that is easier said than done. Really nervous about next week.

Frank Spencer

closeline wrote: »

Anyone else be doing long distance running and really struggling at it. I always struggle at fitness. Out of 25 id be the 5th/6th worst. Trying to get into my mind that as long as I am doing it as hard as I can it doesnt matter how far back I am. However, that is easier said than done. Really nervous about next week.

How long a distance are you talking about?

closeline

Frank Spencer wrote: »

closeline wrote: »

Anyone else be doing long distance running and really struggling at it. I always struggle at fitness. Out of 25 id be the 5th/6th worst. Trying to get into my mind that as long as I am doing it as hard as I can it doesnt matter how far back I am. However, that is easier said than done. Really nervous about next week.

How long a distance are you talking about?

Maybe not the long distance running you might be thinking about..I'm on about maybe sprinting 2 or 3 laps or a lot of sprinting up and down the field etc.

Frank Spencer

closeline wrote: »

Maybe not the long distance running you might be thinking about..I'm on about maybe sprinting 2 or 3 laps or a lot of sprinting up and down the field etc.

Ah I see. Long distance just conjures up thoughts of lads slogging around the pitch doing endless laps, which I would have thought has been pretty much discounted as an effective training method in this day in age.

Trainers now try to replicate the action of players on the field i.e Sprint, 75% running and jogging. I've found it to be very effective in my experience. Something like the Fartlek method.

closeline

Frank Spencer wrote: »

Ah I see. Long distance just conjures up thoughts of lads slogging around the pitch doing endless laps, which I would have thought has been pretty much discounted as an effective training method in this day in age.

Trainers now try to replicate the action of players on the field i.e Sprint, 75% running and jogging. I've found it to be very effective in my experience. Something like the Fartlek method.

Actually I think we might be doing some of this actually. I really dont agree with it. I feel players should do that themselves to build up stamina but running laps at a medium pace is nothing similar to what you do in a match.

woodchopper

Frank Spencer wrote: »

Ah I see. Long distance just conjures up thoughts of lads slogging around the pitch doing endless laps, which I would have thought has been pretty much discounted as an effective training method in this day in age.

Trainers now try to replicate the action of players on the field i.e Sprint, 75% running and jogging. I've found it to be very effective in my experience. Something like the Fartlek method.

God forbid that GAA players develop there aerobic system before they start anaerobic work. I guess your not a very successful coach by the sounds of it. The reason a team gets tired in the last segement of the game is because they dont have the aerobic engine to keep sprinting. There is an anology in athletic performance, it goes by, you cant build a roof on a house if you have got no foundation. I cringe when I hear people post that aerobic running is dead and buried. You know aerobic running is not slogging around a pitch, that is called walking.