First at the bus stop but last to get on

This is somthing that i have started to notice since getting the bus. But i am first to get to the bus stop in the evenings. I stand by the stop and wait. People start shoing up but dont stand at the stop. But they stand in at the wall along the shops on the quays.

The bus comes and everybody pores upto the door and pushes their way onto the bus. Like school kids.

On top of this i find that the spanish the romanian, african and Irish scangers are paying less then me yet still sitting on the bus when i get off.

So the question i want to ask.

1 : was queuing (lack of) always like this? I honestly cant remember.

2 : Should i just do what everybody else is doing and not pay the full fair ?

KD345

Deleted User wrote: »

This is somthing that i have started to notice since getting the bus. But i am first to get to the bus stop in the evenings. I stand by the stop and wait. People start shoing up but dont stand at the stop. But they stand in at the wall along the shops on the quays.

The bus comes and everybody pores upto the door and pushes their way onto the bus. Like school kids.

On top of this i find that the spanish the romanian, african and Irish scangers are paying less then me yet still sitting on the bus when i get off.

So the question i want to ask.

1 : was queuing (lack of) always like this? I honestly cant remember.

2 : Should i just do what everybody else is doing and not pay the full fair ?

I find some bus stops allow for queuing, others don't due to the location of the stop and design of the footpath. Saying that, there is no excuse for skipping a queue. Perhaps be more assertive if it bothers you and tell these people they are skipping. It's worth mentioning that passengers with prepaid and smart cards can board ahead of fare paying passengers by boarding and scanning to the right of the door.

Of course you should pay the correct fare. If you witnessed someone stealing something from a supermarket would you do similar? You risk prosecution and a fine if caught without a valid ticket.

Perhaps buy a prepaid ticket, they're cheaper and you can board faster.

AngryLips

Nobody queues in this country :rolleyes:

I did actually push my way on one time and the drive had a go at me. Its actually easy for me as i am lot bigger then everybody else But all the same there is room to queue but nobody queues.

dardhal

Deleted User wrote: »

On top of this i find that the spanish the romanian, african and Irish scangers are paying less then me yet still sitting on the bus when i get off.

This is because Spanish people are used to paying much less for much better public transport, and it takes some time to getting used to paying the correct, higher amount (just kidding). For what is worth, we don't usually queue at all at bus stops in Spain either, specially at rush hour, when you have to somewhat fight for a good spot and make yourself into the bus. There was a time when people were more "civilized", but that seems to be no longer the case in most countries :-(

I've been for two months in Dublin, and I have yet to use Dublin Bus. I have never liked buses so much, but here (fortunately) I can commute on foot, so it may be some time before I try those strange double-decker Dublin buses.

PS: it is very sad that one goes to a different country and gets compared to local scangers due to some people behaving the wrong way. But I can understand you, I have felt the same in my home country.

mikemac1

You want to try where Bus Éireann in Galway park up

Maybe six to seven coaches lined up and well over two hundred people on a narrow footpath.
More people trying to walk up and down it and the same time

You try to open the old style luggage doors on the coaches and nobody will stand back to let it swing up. Guranteed a row over this every Friday evening with students trying to put in their bags in and others not daring to move

Utter chaos :mad:

Limerick Bus station was a dream compared to the shambles of Galway

Regarding the fare, there was the old trick of paying for Gort and wanting to go to Cork.
Only to be tried when it's mad busy and don't leave the bus at Limerick as the driver might check you
If ya get challenged "Oh I told the person I wanted Cork, they must have misheard me and gave me Gort"

Pic and the narrow footpath behind the coaches

foggy_lad

Ah I remember the days down the end of middle abbey street waiting on a 66 or one of the infrequent 67a's and what could only be described as a little hitler of an inspector coming along and whipping several hundred people into their respective ques for the 25a 26 66a 66 67 and 67a. He would then stick around to make sure no bus left with empty seats on top! Secretly people loved him because he got us all home especially on the miserable wet Saturday evenings at Christmas when everyone was tired of shops and shopping and the greatest fear was not getting on the bus! Often maynooth passengers were put on the 66a and the driver of the 66 told to pick them up in leixlip when he would have room. Thank god for the organisation at the time as everyone was brought home, it is missing from the city centre stops now and it shows.

Cookie_Monster

The inability to queue is a great reflection of how decrepit a society has become :pac:

Marine road in DL is an epic example of it, even our best rugby pack couldn't hold them back once a 7/46a appears

Niles

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

The inability to queue is a great reflection of how decrepit a society has become :pac:

Indeed. A while back I was queuing in Busáras for the Rosslare bus. There was a bunch of teenagers in front of me waiting for their friends, some of whom happily walked by people already waiting in the queue to join their comrades. When the gate opened and the queue started moving rather than (a) proceeding to the bus or (b) stepping aside to wait for their remaining friends, they trudged along slowly trying to "hold a space" for their friends, but without any regard for the people behind them. When said friends did arrive, they pushed their way through the queue, seemingly oblivious to the people standing behind them.

Clearly the concept of a "queue" was beyond their understanding.

In Busáras the worst place for queuing is Gate 16 (outside the building, across from the Luas stop). I recall on the evening of Camogie final (involving Wexford) it was a free for all when it came to boarding the 18:30 Rosslare, there was no relief so a few got left behind. But it was pot luck whether you got onto it or not, regardless of who had been waiting the longest. At least when queuing in the building itself there's some way of regulating the queues.

dardhal

dardhal wrote: »

This is because Spanish people are used to paying much less for much better public transport, and it takes some time to getting used to paying the correct, higher amount (just kidding).

There is truth to this. I was a Giri living in spain I was shocked by how good the transport system was there. I miss it

Telchak

I wouldn't say people skipping ques has ever been a problem for me, as as far as I've seen queues are nonexistent in Dublin. People juat approach the door at all different angles, dividing between cash and card. You let some people merge in front of you and you merge in front of someone. Usually seems to be done fairly curtiously to me, if a little disorganised.

Old people tend to barge through occasionally, forgetting perhaps that they're not the only one's who don't pay cash. Similarly with DSP pass holders.

Biggest problem I find is people paying cash that decide to stand as far to the right as they can, blocking catd holders from passing them. This bothers me far more than the lack of organised queing >_<

Problem with queues is the number of different routes serving each stop, and that there would also likely be situations similar to ATMs where the queue blocks the entire street. Huddling in a crowd around the stop kind of diffuses this.

corktina

queueing was almost unknown before WW2 in Britain... probably the same here and the rest of the world just don't get the gentlemanly "no, after you sir!" thing.

(or in Irish terms "Put your purse away Mrs Doyle")

PseudoFamous

From my experience, If you want to be first on, kerb camp until your bus gets there. Do not sit down. Stand at all times no matter if your wait is 30 seconds or 30 minutes. Everyone must know you're going to be first on, they need to know well in advance. Nearest to the bus door is the one who gets on first. Its the only way to be sure of a seat if you're at one of the last two stops in Arklow.

what a day

Pessant wagons should be band from the roads any way, have ther own lane and still block traffic!!!:mad:

Weylin

what a day wrote: »

Pessant wagons should be band from the roads any way, have ther own fooking lane and still block traffic!!!:mad:

I say,old boy,one would want to brush up on ones spelling.:D

Marcusm

Weylin wrote: »

I say,old boy,one would want to brush up on ones spelling.:D

You missed the third misspelling!?!

cocoshovel

I hate when people see the bus coming like 1 mile down the road and they all get up and start huddling together at the curb, slowly passing each other out and jostling their way down the lenght of the path. Then when the bus arrives it stops 10ft back from them and they all rush down like a pack of thick sheep.

Cookie_Monster

cocoshovel wrote: »

I hate when people see the bus coming like 1 mile down the road and they all get up and start huddling together at the curb, slowly passing each other out and jostling their way down the lenght of the path. Then when the bus arrives it stops 10ft back from them and they all rush down like a pack of thick sheep.

that I can deal with, it's the people who been standing beside me for 20 mins who only go and fish for change when the door opens that get me :mad:

mikedragon32

At the stops along Nassau St. there is no point in forming a queue. 10 or 12 busses serving each stop, narrow footpath... Nobody wants to be the sucker left standing at the actual bus stop when the chances of any bus actually opening it's doors at the stop are so remote.

jimmycrackcorm

It would help if busses consistently pulled up directly at the stop instead of random distances either side.

Victor

what a day wrote: »

Pessant wagons should be band from the roads any way, have ther own fooking lane and still block traffic!!!:mad:

Insults/trolling not welcome.

what a day

Victor wrote: »

Insults/trolling not welcome.

My Apologies, just had a Jeremy Clarkson moment there, just hate Buses and other sorts that slow down traffic.

bk

what a day wrote: »

My Apologies, just had a Jeremy Clarkson moment there, just hate Buses and other sorts that slow down traffic.

Buses speed up traffic.

If all the people on the bus decided to drive instead in their own car, traffic congestion would be much worse.

Be thankful of buses and the good citizens who elect to use them.

droidus

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

It would help if busses consistently pulled up directly at the stop instead of random distances either side.

Here's a trick for getting the bus to stop in front of you - and for getting on first.

Stand at the kerb near the normal stopping location of the bus. When the bus comes, stick your hand out and leave it stuck out until the bus stops, even if there's another 20 people at the stop and its the only bus stopping at that stop.

9 times out of ten the bus will stop right in front of you. Drivers just seem to home in on the outstretched arm.

BenShermin

droidus wrote: »

Stand at the kerb near the normal stopping location of the bus. When the bus comes, stick your hand out and leave it stuck out until the bus stops, even if there's another 20 people at the stop and its the only bus stopping at that stop.

God I hate people who do that. Once the driver has his indicator on to show me that he's stopping I put my arm back in. I'd say drivers get sick of looking at outstretched arms when they are stopping regardless!

o1s1n

AngryLips wrote: »

Nobody queues in this country :rolleyes:

Go to Abbey street and get the 130. I get that bus every day and there's always a queue. Sometimes it's comically long.

Then see how people react when bastards try to skip!

Actually, here's a photo I took of it a while back when it was the longest I've ever seen it (yes I'm that sad)

And that's not all of it. It went behind me about 20 people before looping to what you see there.

droidus

BenShermin wrote: »

God I hate people who do that. Once the driver has his indicator on to show me that he's stopping I put my arm back in.

...and thats why youre always last on the bus!