Bmw 116

Ray Mond

Hi I'm going to look at bmw116 thinking of buying it any1 any pros or cons about this it's a 1.6 petrol thanks

Anan1

It'll be pretty slow, and it's not really macho enough for the typically insecure Irish BMW buyer. Other than that they're a nice enough car.

swhyte027

Well finished off car.but the engine is under powered.the diff will be required to be changed and the is a dead cert.and it's a costly fix.also the engine gives trouble sensor wise but for anyone that knows them to work on should be ok.also rear shocks and pivot bearings and then the front control arm bushes give hassle but as I said make sure u have a mechanic the knows his bm,s inside and out.if u require any other info just ask me.

Owen

swhyte027 wrote: »

Well finished off car.but the engine is under powered.

The engine's a 115 Bhp powerplant in a not too heavy car. It's reasonably powerful for it's size.

swhyte027 wrote: »

the diff will be required to be changed

Why in God's name would the diff need to be changed? Even if you mean diff oil, no it doesn't need to be done until serious mileage is racked up. Even the first of the 1 Series still wouldn't need to be done.

swhyte027 wrote: »

the engine gives trouble sensor wise

No, no it doesn't. Some have coil pack issues, but that can happen with any modern BMW. There are occassionally ABS issues with the control unit for that, but you can now get a kit to refurbish the existing ABS control module which is inexpensive if you're unfortunate enough to have that problem.

My sister's had one since 2006, and it's pretty much been fault free since day 1. They're an alright motor, but not the largest inside, and the boot is a tiny bit cramped it being RWD.

veetwin

Cons;
It has no power
It won't be very fuel efficient
It has reliability issues
It has no interior space and zero leg room in the back
It's looks are highly questionable
It's more expensive than the competition but usually not as well equipped.
Its the bottom of the bottom of the range.

Pros

swhyte027

Owen wrote: »

swhyte027 wrote: »

Well finished off car.but the engine is under powered.

The engine's a 115 Bhp powerplant in a not too heavy car. It's reasonably powerful for it's size.

swhyte027 wrote: »

the diff will be required to be changed

Why in God's name would the diff need to be changed? Even if you mean diff oil, no it doesn't need to be done until serious mileage is racked up. Even the first of the 1 Series still wouldn't need to be done.

swhyte027 wrote: »

the engine gives trouble sensor wise

No, no it doesn't. Some have coil pack issues, but that can happen with any modern BMW. There are occassionally ABS issues with the control unit for that, but you can now get a kit to refurbish the existing ABS control module which is inexpensive if you're unfortunate enough to have that problem.

My sister's had one since 2006, and it's pretty much been fault free since day 1. They're an alright motor, but not the largest inside, and the boot is a tiny bit cramped it being RWD.

Listen I work on bm,s trust me the 116 and e90 316 have the same diff which are giving a lot of trouble I no this as I work on them day in day out just read about it online.so don't talk about things that u don't no about ur sister might be lucky but it's Notting got to do with the diff oil being changed there just giving trouble and that's it .google it and u shall c.

swhyte027

Owen wrote: »

swhyte027 wrote: »

Well finished off car.but the engine is under powered.

The engine's a 115 Bhp powerplant in a not too heavy car. It's reasonably powerful for it's size.

swhyte027 wrote: »

the diff will be required to be changed

Why in God's name would the diff need to be changed? Even if you mean diff oil, no it doesn't need to be done until serious mileage is racked up. Even the first of the 1 Series still wouldn't need to be done.

swhyte027 wrote: »

the engine gives trouble sensor wise

No, no it doesn't. Some have coil pack issues, but that can happen with any modern BMW. There are occassionally ABS issues with the control unit for that, but you can now get a kit to refurbish the existing ABS control module which is inexpensive if you're unfortunate enough to have that problem.

My sister's had one since 2006, and it's pretty much been fault free since day 1. They're an alright motor, but not the largest inside, and the boot is a tiny bit cramped it being RWD.

And also own u must not be in the know I didn't mention coil packs I said sensors which do give trouble the crank sensor and both cam sensors are also very very common faults just google the n42 engine.as I've said I see these cars day in day out ur sister has one where as I've delt with tons of them.

Owen

Funnily enough, I've worked with tons too. My sisters, and a hell of lot of my customers. Very few had cam position sensor issues. And not a single one had a diff, or diff oil replaced.

But I must not be in the know ...

swhyte027

No u must not be so.as when your changing the cam sensors BMW advise that u change both the cam sensors and crank in one go.as it is a problem on that engine.i never dmsaid anything about changing diff oil would very rarely do that.ive just said the new bm,s are suffering diff trouble the start of the e90 and the 1 series use the same diff.and as I've said we have changed quite Afew.but hey don't take my word for it.thats just my advise from what I have seen.maybe we are just a extremely busy garage.

Owen

I'm sure you are.

swhyte027

Ha ha.i don't have to explain my self Il have u no I've Notting to prove.im just trying to help the op and from my experience I'm just giving advice.

colm_mcm

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swhyte027 wrote: »

And also own u must not be in the know I didn't mention coil packs I said sensors which do give trouble the crank sensor and both cam sensors are also very very common faults just google the n42 engine.as I've said I see these cars day in day out ur sister has one where as I've delt with tons of them.

Considering the 116i has an N45 engine, I'm not sure what googling N42 engine will do...

As for diffs, have never heard of one needing replacing on these models

R.O.R

veetwin wrote: »

Cons;
It has no power
It won't be very fuel efficient
It has reliability issues
It has no interior space and zero leg room in the back
It's looks are highly questionable
It's more expensive than the competition but usually not as well equipped.
Its the bottom of the bottom of the range.

Pros

You've not driven a 1 series then?

Have a white 120d 3dr coming back next week. Remember going to fuel that in the wet when it was new - that was quite a bit of fun......

colm_mcm

Thread is about the 116 though.
Bit like asking about an Impreza 1.5 and saying the WRX is fast

Saab Ed

R.O.R wrote: »

Have a white 120d 3dr coming back next week. Remember going to fuel that in the wet when it was new - that was quite a bit of fun......

So is a MX5 .....for about an hour. After that you're just left with a car that goes sideways very well but does fcuk all else.

In fairness though there is a big difference between a 120d and 116. The 116 actually gets in to my list of Top 43 Crap Cars on the planet. Just rubbish. Built only for people who cant afford a real BM and are willing to sell their soul just to have that badge on the front. I actually think the styling is an inside joke in Munich.

Ya Hans, can you beeleevv how stupid deesa Leute are ?

Oooh ya Johann, ve can make ze moost ugly car in ze ganza world and they are zo desperate for a BMV that shey vill buy this Scheiße

colm_mcm

Anan1

Saab Ed wrote: »

Built only for people who cant afford a real BM and are willing to sell their soul just to have that badge on the front. I actually think the styling is an inside joke in Munich.

Ya Hans, can you beeleevv how stupid deesa Leute are ?

Oooh ya Johann, ve can make ze moost ugly car in ze ganza world and they are zo desperate for a BMV that shey vill buy this Scheiße

I honestly think that this old chestnut tells more about the person saying it than it does about 116i buyers.:)

Ray Mond

thanks for all the replys , by the bad replys im not even gonna bother going to look at the car , thanks FOR THE ADVICE

Delancey

I quite like the looks of the 1 series coupe.

R.O.R

colm_mcm wrote: »

Thread is about the 116 though.
Bit like asking about an Impreza 1.5 and saying the WRX is fast

I know a 116i and a 120d will be quite a bit apart on the power front, but it's still going to be decent to drive. 115bhp engine was too weedy for the 316i, but in the smaller 1 series it should be OK, and you can still throw it around the place with a bigger smile on your face than a Golf or even Focus.

colm_mcm

I found the 116 not bad to drive, you're right. Same with the compact.
As a package, I don't find the 1 appealing, and I think he coupe is a hideous looking thing, and if it wasn't for the 1M or 123d aspirational models nobody would buy the regular coupes.

veetwin

R.O.R wrote: »

You've not driven a 1 series then?

Have a white 120d 3dr coming back next week. Remember going to fuel that in the wet when it was new - that was quite a bit of fun......

Ah come on..a 120d and a 116i are different animals in fairness. As it happens I have driven the 116. It's ok but forgettable. The 120d on the other hand would be lovely. The OP was enquiring about a 116i which is the context my reply was given.