Golf Clubs for Society

Babyliss

Golf Clubs for Society
Hi, i'm looking for a good course for a society and have a few in mind, but because i haven't played these in a long time or never at all, anyone know if these courses are still in good shape, looking to play in August/September and including dinner with a price range of €60 at MAX.. here's a choice of a few and in an hours radious of Maynooth.... New Forrest, Mullingar, Powerscourt, Tullamore, Tullfarris, Rathsallagh... Anyone have any ideas, are these in good condition, looking at Tullfarris which looks good on website......

Hi,

I'm the secretary of my local golf society. Tulfarris is a good course for a society. Not to difficult but very enjoyable. Our society will be playing tulfarris again this year. At 30 euro a man you can't go wrong. This doesn't include food, just golf. I never found the course in bad condition and would recommend it to anyone. Some nice holes on the course. Rathsallagh is also a lovely course, probably better than tulfarris IMO but a little bit more expensive.

yakkson

Esker Hill - one of the best in ireland in my view - i would be member if i lived closer

Babyliss

Lefty2Guns wrote: »

Hi,

I'm the secretary of my local golf society. Tulfarris is a good course for a society. Not to difficult but very enjoyable. Our society will be playing tulfarris again this year. At 30 euro a man you can't go wrong. This doesn't include food, just golf. I never found the course in bad condition and would recommend it to anyone. Some nice holes on the course. Rathsallagh is also a lovely course, probably better than tulfarris IMO but a little bit more expensive.

ye i got a price including food and was told Tullfarris is a good course with a great layout but just to check its condition and if it had been let go. Cheers

link_2007

yakkson wrote: »

Esker Hill - one of the best in ireland in my view - i would be member if i lived closer

I would second this recommendation.

golfnut1

Yeah esker is class

Back9bandit

Hi, I too organise the golf outings for our work society and for €60 you can have almost any course you want. I use a guy called Tom Kenneddy from mygolfsociety.ie. Great prices and deals and Tom will organise everything for you. Have a look at the website and if you decide to give him a call, mention my username. Cheers

Check out Palmerstown House, a class course and they will do great deals

RND

+1 for esker - I would recommend that you get buggies

Dr_Colossus

I'm a member of Tulfarris and can advise the course is well kept and in good condition. Bit wet this time of year with placing everywhere and rake and place in the bunkers but fairly normal for parkland winter golf. Come Aug/Sept should be in near top condition so wouldn't have any issue in recommending.

Rathsallagh is another fine golf course, perhaps not as scenic as Tulfarris and would consider it a good bit easier but has a lovely cosy clubhouse with good food. Off the white tees it's about 260 yards shorter than Tulfarris so perhaps that's why I find Tulfarris a tougher test of golf.

Seriously though if you're only looking at one course I'd second the below recommendation for Palmerstown House. We played this last Sept in our work society and it was fantastic, amazing course and the place was in great condition the Sat we played. Probably the best parkland course I've played to date. Not sure what the condition will be like next summer/autumn as there seems to be some uncertainty regarding it's upkeep but we'll certainly be looking to go back.

Back9bandit wrote: »

Check out Palmerstown House, a class course and they will do great deals

Other options to consider are The Heritage, another top class course nearly on par with Palmerstown House, or perhaps Headfort New although the Sat we played it in Oct it wasn't in the best of condition.

GreeBo

Dr_Colossus wrote: »

rake and place in the bunkers but fairly normal for parkland winter golf.

Sorry but I wouldn't consider that normal, there should be no problems in bunkers (or greens) at this (or any) time of year if they have the correct drainage in place.

OP in Aug/Sept every course should be perfect.

Redzah

GreeBo wrote: »

Sorry but I wouldn't consider that normal, there should be no problems in bunkers (or greens) at this (or any) time of year if they have the correct drainage in place.

OP in Aug/Sept every course should be perfect.

While not the norm (i actually have never heard of this policy), I believe a rake and place policy should be adopted by many clubs as the bunkers i've seen in the winter are damp compact sand and are not maintained well during the winter months and the above policy would make this fairer for the golfer.

GreeBo

Redzah wrote: »

While not the norm (i actually have never heard of this policy), I believe a rake and place policy should be adopted by many clubs as the bunkers i've seen in the winter are damp compact sand and are not maintained well during the winter months and the above policy would make this fairer for the golfer.

I've never heard of it either, but I think you need to be able to play out of any type of sand.
Sure, it shouldnt be rock hard (signifying that it never gets a deep rake/turned over by the grounds team) but on a wet day the sand is going to be firm and compacted until it dries out. IMHO you need to be able to play out of it...its the same for everyone anyway on the day.
A bunker is a hazard, not an opportunity to have a perfect lie...

Deep Thought

Hi

Am a member in Kilcock Golf Club

We do great deals for societies and have recenlty invested 2Million Euro updating the Course

You can Contact our Resident Professional Darren McLoughlin with any questions

Redzah

GreeBo wrote: »

I've never heard of it either, but I think you need to be able to play out of any type of sand.
Sure, it shouldnt be rock hard (signifying that it never gets a deep rake/turned over by the grounds team) but on a wet day the sand is going to be firm and compacted until it dries out. IMHO you need to be able to play out of it...its the same for everyone anyway on the day.
A bunker is a hazard, not an opportunity to have a perfect lie...

I take your point on board but too many times the sand will not have been raked properly over the winter and results in layer upon layer of compacted sand, this was never the design of the bunker hazard. Also I don't believe that it is the same for everyone on the day as a good bunker player's abilities are limited on this type of compact sand and therefore a competitive advantage is lost over poorer bunker players in these cases.

Dr_Colossus

GreeBo wrote: »

Sorry but I wouldn't consider that normal, there should be no problems in bunkers (or greens) at this (or any) time of year if they have the correct drainage in place.
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I was trying to convey that the course being wet involving placing on both fairways and in the rough was more the norm for this time of year on parkland courses. Agree with your point above especially concerning bunkers but how often is that the case given the amount of incessant rain we receive in this country coupled with the reduced levels of maintenance. Granted some courses have better drainage and a higher quality of sand/maintenance so the bunkers aren't as much of an issue but I've found alot of courses to have concrete like bunkers which are no fun.

Redzah wrote: »

I take your point on board but too many times the sand will not have been raked properly over the winter and results in layer upon layer of compacted sand, this was never the design of the bunker hazard. Also I don't believe that it is the same for everyone on the day as a good bunker player's abilities are limited on this type of compact sand and therefore a competitive advantage is lost over poorer bunker players in these cases.

Agree with the above, I've seen players even putting from bunkers (not Tulfarris) which you should never be able to do but if the bunkers are like concrete and don't have much of a lip it's not a bad option. I've come across maybe 3 or 4 courses now that adopt a rake and place system during the winter months regarding bunkers and have no complaints, it's the best of a poor situation until the bunkers are properly raked and maintained.

GreeBo

Redzah wrote: »

I take your point on board but too many times the sand will not have been raked properly over the winter and results in layer upon layer of compacted sand, this was never the design of the bunker hazard.

Yeah, but this is an issue with the course...and to be honest I see it more in the "good" (but now Nama!) courses much more than I see it in any of my local courses.

Redzah wrote: »

Also I don't believe that it is the same for everyone on the day as a good bunker player's abilities are limited on this type of compact sand and therefore a competitive advantage is lost over poorer bunker players in these cases.

Sorry but a "good" player should be able to play out of any bunker and have more control than a "bad" player. Sure you cant play all the shots, but neither can you in a plugged lie for example.
Put it this way, I would put my money on a low handicapper to get it closer than a high handicapper everytime out of a concrete bunker.

ebuggle

Hi
I am A member of Lucan golf club .You can play golf and get well fed and even have a couple of pints for €60.
Society days are usually Fridays but we have open singles every Tuesday from March to October . Contact our Secretary Manager st (01) 6282106 for all current deals.
It s is one of the most impressively presented courses around.Check out our website at http://www.lucangolf.ie

Redzah

GreeBo wrote: »

Yeah, but this is an issue with the course...and to be honest I see it more in the "good" (but now Nama!) courses much more than I see it in any of my local courses.

Sorry but a "good" player should be able to play out of any bunker and have more control than a "bad" player. Sure you cant play all the shots, but neither can you in a plugged lie for example.
Put it this way, I would put my money on a low handicapper to get it closer than a high handicapper everytime out of a concrete bunker.

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Hence the use of the word 'limited' GreeBo. Concrete bunkers with compact sand were never the way the hazard was designed and although the climate affects bunkers, they were never designed to turn to clay like some places do, this is a common problem experienced in the majority of courses from what i have seen both local and nama etc. Problem lies with machines used to rake the bunkers, players not raking them and fresh sand not used to fill the bunkers when required. This results in inconsistencies in the sand and sometimes the club will bounce and other times dig into the sand depending on how compact the sand is and how open the bunker is on that particular area of the course. This does not occur on well maintained courses and appears to be a result of lazy greenkeeping staff

Not sure why u have emphasised the "good" and "bad" players. Good obviously refers to a bunker player with a higher sand saver rate (often a lower hancapper) and bad refers to a bunker player with a low sand save rate (often a higher handicapper). You should not go looking for insults that are not there, it was just used as an example and was no way intended to be insulting to anybody.

GreeBo

Redzah wrote: »

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Hence the use of the word 'limited' GreeBo. Concrete bunkers with compact sand were never the way the hazard was designed and although the climate affects bunkers, they were never designed to turn to clay like some places do, this is a common problem experienced in the majority of courses from what i have seen both local and nama etc. Problem lies with machines used to rake the bunkers, players not raking them and fresh sand not used to fill the bunkers when required. This results in inconsistencies in the sand and sometimes the club will bounce and other times dig into the sand depending on how compact the sand is and how open the bunker is on that particular area of the course. This does not occur on well maintained courses and appears to be a result of lazy greenkeeping staff

Not sure why u have emphasised the "good" and "bad" players. Good obviously refers to a bunker player with a higher sand saver rate (often a lower hancapper) and bad refers to a bunker player with a low sand save rate (often a higher handicapper). You should not go looking for insults that are not there, it was just used as an example and was no way intended to be insulting to anybody.

The terms are highlighted to show that there is no definition of what each means, just a general term.

But I still stand by the point that a good bunker player is always a better bunker player than a poor bunker player, irrespective of the condition of the bunker. Same way as a good player can still hit a nice shot off hard mud, whereas a poorer player may not be able to.
The harder the bunker shot becomes the more of a competitive advantage the good player has...you said it was reduced...this is what I disagree with.
I'm not insulted at all...dont see why I would be?
(Im an excellent bunker player )

Redzah

GreeBo wrote: »

The terms are highlighted to show that there is no definition of what each means, just a general term.

But I still stand by the point that a good bunker player is always a better bunker player than a poor bunker player, irrespective of the condition of the bunker. Same way as a good player can still hit a nice shot off hard mud, whereas a poorer player may not be able to.
The harder the bunker shot becomes the more of a competitive advantage the good player has...you said it was reduced...this is what I disagree with.
I'm not insulted at all...dont see why I would be?
(Im an excellent bunker player )

The harder and more compact the sand, the more an element of luck comes in as there are inconsistencies in this surface which are difficult/impossible to judge, this reduces competitive advantage as it adds an element of luck and thus takes out an element of skill. Don't think we need to keep this going any longer as we are going off the point and we can agree to disagree on this. Also the moderators might be onto us........oh wait

pcasso

I will add a vote for two already mentioned, Palmerstown House and The Heritage, both cracking courses as well as suggesting Moyvalley, which should be enjoyed by the full range of golfers who normally make up societys