Are the Irish welcome to join the SAS?

YoungSoldier

As the title says? My mother is a British citizen?

If so... How do we find out when the dates are to apply?

Thanks.

Delancey

One does not join the SAS directly as a recruit. You must first join the Britsh Army and after a few years of busting your balls ask permission to apply to transfer to the regiment , ie. you apply to apply.
No Special Forces take recruits direct from the public.

YoungSoldier

I thought the SAS were now taking civillians??

davetherave

Territorial Army SAS?
http://www.army.mod.uk/uksf/special_forces_soldier_reserve_/sas/index.htm


AM I ELIGIBLE FOR SERVICE AS AN SAS(R) OPERATOR?

SAS (R) accepts male volunteers aged 34 and below from any part of the Regular or Reserve Armed Forces (RN, RM, Army and RAF). Applicants with no previous military experience may apply, but must be aged 32 or below and may be required to attend the Combat Infantry Course (CIC) prior to attempting Selection.

In line with current MOD policy regarding the employment of women in the Armed Services, service as an operator with SAS(R) is restricted to men.

YoungSoldier

I'd rather the regular SAS but I take it the requirements are the same or similar?

Witcher

Concentrate on simply joining the BA first before you think about joining the SAS.

Poccington

Oh Lord.

You've made multiple threads on this forum asking about everything from a Cadetship in the DF, to saying you're joining the RIR, to asking about moving a family you don't have over to England... And now you want to apply for SAS Selection straight off the bat. I'm going to take a wild guess and say you really have no reasonable idea of what you really want to do.


You haven't even finished school yet, you've lots of time to make a decision with regards to your career. Just enjoy living your life and being young for the time being. Seriously, focus on the 25m target.

Lemming

Just to touch on something davetherave has said regarding the SAS(R), I recall reading an account of what's involved by a member of the SAS [claimed posted on their behalf I should say] on a website that I shall not reproduce a link for;

Suffice to say yes civilians can apply, but don't even consider applying unless you can run ten miles in under an hour as a base level of fitness required in order to build on top of if you want any hope of passing selection. The DS will beast you to hell and back to weed out the walts and people who simply aren't up to the task before you ever so much as smell gun oil.

I wont post the URL because the account also contains information on where to apply for the SAS(R), alongside a very healthy warning concerning time-wasters & contacting that address for anything other than applying for selection. As Poccington has said, plenty of time to figure where you're at first YS.

cruasder777

YoungSoldier wrote: »

As the title says? My mother is a British citizen?

If so... How do we find out when the dates are to apply?

Thanks.

Yep, 21 SAS the artists rifles had a Irish RSM in the 8Os, numerous Irish in the SAS over the yrs, inc Paddy Doyle and a guy KIA in the Falklands.

cruasder777

davetherave wrote: »

Territorial Army SAS?
http://www.army.mod.uk/uksf/special_forces_soldier_reserve_/sas/index.htm


AM I ELIGIBLE FOR SERVICE AS AN SAS(R) OPERATOR?

SAS (R) accepts male volunteers aged 34 and below from any part of the Regular or Reserve Armed Forces (RN, RM, Army and RAF). Applicants with no previous military experience may apply, but must be aged 32 or below and may be required to attend the Combat Infantry Course (CIC) prior to attempting Selection.

In line with current MOD policy regarding the employment of women in the Armed Services, service as an operator with SAS(R) is restricted to men.

Bear Grills went this route, 95% failure rate, you have to be good to get through.

cruasder777

Lemming wrote: »

Just to touch on something davetherave has said regarding the SAS(R), I recall reading an account of what's involved by a member of the SAS [claimed posted on their behalf I should say] on a website that I shall not reproduce a link for;

Suffice to say yes civilians can apply, but don't even consider applying unless you can run ten miles in under an hour as a base level of fitness required in order to build on top of if you want any hope of passing selection. The DS will beast you to hell and back to weed out the walts and people who simply aren't up to the task before you ever so much as smell gun oil.

I wont post the URL because the account also contains information on where to apply for the SAS(R), alongside a very healthy warning concerning time-wasters & contacting that address for anything other than applying for selection. As Poccington has said, plenty of time to figure where you're at first YS.

After the Iranian embassy siege all manner of nutters turned up, Inc Barry George the guy found guilty(later acquitted) of the Gill Dando murder.

c-90

do the sas(r) only recruit people with skillsets outside the norm of a regular soldier like linguists and i.t. specialists, medical people ect? doesnt really make sence if not.

tac foley

c-90 wrote: »

do the sas(r) only recruit people with skillsets outside the norm of a regular soldier like linguists and i.t. specialists, medical people ect? doesnt really make sence if not.

No. YOU have to volunteer. I suggest that you read one of the many books now readily avaialble.

The SAS do not actively recruit anybody at all. There are no SAS recruiters going around units telling you what a great life you can have wearing the blue stable belt and sand-coloured beret...

From time to time the notice will be on Command ROs stating that for those who wish to be considered for entering Special Forces, the following dates for the selection course are promulgated blah blah...applicants will require a high level of fitness.....be recommended by their CO as a suitable candidate...blah blah..

Any skillset that you bring with you will be maximised and modified to suit the mission plan.

Expect to be useful if you speak any of the languages currently in vogue in the present TsOO - ie. you are already INTEL in the Army/Air Force/RM .

Expect to be useful if you already have medical skills above those of the ordinary soldier - ie. you are already a field medic in the Army/Air Force/RM.

Expect to be useful if you already have signalling skills above those of the ordinary soldier - ie. you are already Royal Signals.

Expect to be useful if you already have demolition/EOD skills above those of the ordinary soldier - ie. you are already Army/RAF EOD or Royal Engineer.

...and so on.

The killer for those attending is the sheer amount of stress and pain that you put yourself through to become badged. Nobody makes you do it - you can just walk away at any time in the selection process, and around 25% do.

Remember that even the selection process requires you to be at a higher standard of fitness, motivation and will-to-win than the best of your fellows in the Army, RM or RAF. It's not a matter of being able to lurch around the landscape for a mile or so carrying 80 pounds on your aching back - you might need to carry a 200 pound fellow soldier that you are not going to leave behind - for a hundred miles.

Imagine the very worst it can possibly be, knowing that when it does happen, that could be the best it's ever going to be.

tac

c-90

tac foley wrote: »

No.

The SAS do not actively recruit anybody at all.

YOU have to volunteer.

Read any one of many books now published on the subject of the SAS.

Any skillset that you bring with you will be maximised and modified to suit the mission plan.

Expect to be useful if you speak any of the languages currently in vogue in the present TsOO - ie. you are already INTEL in the Army/Air Force/RM .

Expect to be useful if you already have medical skills above those of the ordinary soldier - ie. you are already a field medic in the Army/Air Force/RM.

Expect to be useful if you already have signalling skills above those of the ordinary soldier - ie. you are already Royal Signals.

Expect to be useful if you already have demolition/EOD skills above those of the ordinary soldier - ie. you are already Army/RAF EOD or Royal Engineer.

...and so on.

The killer for 95% of those attending is the sheer amount of stress and pain that you put yourself through to become badged. Nobody makes you do it - you can just walk away at any time in the selection process, and around 25% do.

Remember that even the selection process requires you to be at a higher standard of fitness, motivation and will-to-win than the best of your fellows in the Army, RM or RAF. It's not a matter of being able to lurch around the landscape for a mile or so carrying 80 pounds on your aching back - you might need to carry a 200 pound fellow soldier that you are not going to leave behind - for a hundred miles.

Imagine the very worst it can possibly be, knowing that when it does happen, that could be the best it's ever going to be.

tac

i worded my post wrong, im trying to understand why the sas (RESERVE) exist, what benifit does "accepting aplicants" from the t.a or civilians offer. is it because they have skillsets outside the regular armed forces?

tac foley

c-90 wrote: »

i worded my post wrong, im trying to understand why the sas (RESERVE) exist, what benifit does "accepting aplicants" from the t.a or civilians offer. is it because they have skillsets outside the regular armed forces?

I refer you to the excellent post #8 above.

If you are 'real' and not a walting mong, then you'll do as it advises. You'd get the very same advice from me.

But before you go, you'd better be the most sh!t-hot fitness freak imaginable - training in non-stop uphill maching while carrying a five-year old child under each arm and wearing diving boots will give you a good start. AND remembering a 16-number grid reference or three whilst somebody plays a hose on you would lend a bit of realism to the 72-hour Black Mountain scenic bash.

Oh yes, don't forget your gun.

tac

PS - who knows, you might be one of the three out of the 110 who tried last year and got through. Loadsa luck, eh?

OS119

c-90 wrote: »

i worded my post wrong, im trying to understand why the sas (RESERVE) exist, what benifit does "accepting aplicants" from the t.a or civilians offer. is it because they have skillsets outside the regular armed forces?

no, they just get trained to the (R) SAS standard and deploy to Afghanistan like any other TA soldier.

cruasder777

c-90 wrote: »

i worded my post wrong, im trying to understand why the sas (RESERVE) exist, what benifit does "accepting aplicants" from the t.a or civilians offer. is it because they have skillsets outside the regular armed forces?

Because intelligent and motivated civilians can reach Special Forces level, getting badged takes about 1 year and training about 3 years. The TA SAS role is not as specialist as 22 SAS, they have no specialist troop units. Their role is mainly an ISTAR one.

There is also 63 SAS TA signals squadron.

You have to compltete special forces test week(hills phase) before parachute training, the 6 week (CIC) combat infantry course which is full time, SOP training, demolition, mobility training, SOF communications, combat medic training etc to be fully trained.

The TA SAS role is similar to the Honourable artillery company TA regiment they do similar selection.



Selection consists of the following phases:

1. APTITUDE
Physical and mental stamina, along with navigational ability are stretched to the limit over series of tests. The aptitude phase culminates with a 64 kilometer march, with a 60lbs bergen, over the Brecon Beacons in Wales. Aptitude consists of:

• 9 x weekends of endurance training.
• 1 x week endurance training in the Brecon Beacons.
• 1 x week assessment (Test Week) in the Beacons.

2. STANDARD OPERATIONAL PROCEDURE (SOP) TRAINING Instruction in UKSF SOP'S and tactics comprises of:

• 9 x weekends patrol SOP's including surveillance and reconnaissance.
• 1 x week live firing including patrol contact drills and Tp offensive action.
• 1 x 9 day battle camp comprising:
  • Live firing assessment.
  • Field training exercise to test the skills learned throughout Selection. This culminates in Conduct after Capture (CAC).

On successful completion of this training, ranks are badged as SAS(R) and are assigned to their respective units for continuation training.

SAS(R) CONTINUATION TRAINING

Candidates who successfully complete Selection will enter a period of probation and must complete the following courses to be fit for mobilisation.

• Basic Parachute Course.
• SF Communications Course.
• Main Training Period.

Once successfully through continuation training, SAS(R) soldiers will undergo periodic UKSF Military Annual training Tests (MATTs) and Main Training Periods. Additional qualifications can be sought throughout the SAS(R) soldier's career:

• Patrol Medics
• Enhanced Surveillance and Reconnaissance
• Languages
• Emergency Close Air Support
• Support Weapons
• Close Protection

cruasder777

"SAS Reservists deployed to the Balkans in the mid-90s. Members from 21 and 23 SAS formed a composite unit known as 'V Squadron' and were engaged in peace support operations.

In 2003, it was reported that 21 and 23 SAS had been operating in Afghanistan where they have carried out long range reconnaissance operations(1). Another role that SAS reservists are thought to carry out is that of so-called 'hearts and minds' operations. On such missions the SAS give medical and other assistance to local forces and populations in a given theatre. In Helmand Province, Afghansitan, SAS(R) were reportdely deployed in a mentoring role, training and operating alongisde the Afghan National Police (ANP).
According to a April 2010 Telegraph report(2), SAS(R) first deployed to Afghansitan in 2003 where they helped to establish a communications network across the country. They also acted as liason between various local political factions, NATO and the new Afghan goverment. The same report mentions that SAS(R) were withdrawn from frontline duties in Afghanistan due to a lack of a clear role. Their mentoring role with the ANP was taken over by regular units. Some SAS Reservists were reported to be carrying out close protection duties for Foreign Office personnel in Kabul, Afghanistan's capital city."




One of the SAS men killed in Afghanistan had been only days away from leaving the Territorial Army so he could dedicate more time to his family.
Lance Corporal Richard Larkin wanted to be at home with his wife watching his three children grow up after sacrificing years away from them while serving, friends said yesterday.
But with days left of his final deployment, the 39-year-old nurse was killed with fellow SAS reservists Corporal Robert Reeve and Paul Stout and Intelligence Officer Corporal Sarah Bryant.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1027861/SAS-soldier-killed-just-days-left-Territorial-Army-wife-young-children.html#ixzz1ihHXVuVM

tac foley

The OP has gone very quiet.

tac

davetherave

tac foley wrote: »

The OP has gone very quiet.

tac

At a wild guess, I'd put my money on the op coming back in two weeks and making a thread on joining the FFL. :pac:

Delancey

davetherave wrote: »

At a wild guess, I'd put my money on the op coming back in two weeks and making a thread on joining the FFL. :pac:

or the Green Berets or being a Top Gun fighter pilot in the US Navy or whatever else is flavour of the day.

goldie fish

Or the Legion of mary...

Lemming

davetherave wrote: »

At a wild guess, I'd put my money on the op coming back in two weeks and making a thread on joining the FFL. :pac:

The FFL? Pfffft, the JPF* is where it's at these days.


* Bunch of splitters! :pac: