Please share what you know about the regulation in terms Stamp1A with me.

rmflsdl

Hi guys,

I'm an international student studying ACCA.
When I started studying ACCA 3 years ago I was told that those that study ACCA from scratch would be considered for an accounting position in a more favourable way than those holding a degree so I started studying ACCA and I have only 2papers to go.
It's taken me three years to arrive at this stage.
I've been offered an accounting job and I have a plan to transfer to Stamp1A(Trainee Accountant) from Stamp2.

Here is the problem.
Under the most recent regulation those without an Irish degree can't get a Stamp1A. What a far-fetched rule!!!
Since I came to Ireland I've been studying very hard and I have a bachelor degree from my country. I'm in a situation where I have to get an Irish degree ,which takes considerable time again to work full time in Ireland.

In my logic, there shouldn't be full time classes for Fundamental levels, for international students, running in Ireland.
As they need an Irish degree to work full time in an accounting position in Ireland and once you get an Irish degree you get exemptions for Fundamental levels. There is no reason for the existance of the classes anymore.

There are many international students studying ACCA without an Irish degree.
Is there anybody who got a Stamp1A without an Irish degree under the recent regulation? Would you be so kind to share your story with me?

It would be great to hear from anybody experiencing this problem.

ResearchWill

If the rules when you commenced stated that you could get stamp 1A without a Irish degree, then under the rules of legitimate expectation you have a good case to argue that you qualify for a stamp 1a and stamp 4 or stamp 1 on completion if such promises had been made.

amen

under the rules of legitimate expectation

I noticed this in a different post. Could I use this to get a state pension at 65 instead of the now 67 ? I started working and paying taxes when I was 17 now 39) and I had a reasonable expectation that I would retire at 65 not 57. I'll have been working 50 years before I receive a state pension!

ResearchWill

amen wrote: »

I noticed this in a different post. Could I use this to get a state pension at 65 instead of the now 67 ? I started working and paying taxes when I was 17 now 39) and I had a reasonable expectation that I would retire at 65 not 57. I'll have been working 50 years before I receive a state pension!

That is a slightly different question, in that in the student case a person may have chosen Ireland to study based on the situation at the time, which now because of the change the person may have wasted a lot of money and time. But this is just a general idea and is not legal advice, I would think the OP should of course seek legal advice.

In relation to state pension it is a far harder question, that could in my opinion not be answered in a forum such as this.

amen

amen wrote: »

I noticed this in a different post. Could I use this to get a state pension at 65 instead of the now 67 ? I started working and paying taxes when I was 17 now 39) and I had a reasonable expectation that I would retire at 65 not 57. I'll have been working 50 years before I receive a state pension!

You didn't start work in reasonable expectation of a pension. You started work in reasonable expectation of payment.

fhaidry

Hi, just came to boards forum once again to seek help.

I am also having the same problem but my Case is a bit different.

I got my trainee accountant job in November 2011 when i was free from college means at that time until announcement of my results i could work full time which i did.

My result was announced on 13th of February and i passed 6 of my fundamental exams of my ACCA. I didn't know about the new rules then came up in Aug 2011 so i got letter from my employer and college and sent them to acca,, but there was no reply of my letters for one week,, and after one week i called ACCA and the lady who deals which these matters asked me do i have an Irish Degree i said now,, then she asked do u have completed your fundamentals ( first nine papers of ACCA) i said no , in the answer of which she replied '' Then you dont qualify for the Stamp 1a Visa''

I was completely surprised by this new rule. What a crap rule is this.

I sent here mail to advice me in detail and she said me to go to GNIB office and ask for Mr...... I did the same and the gentleman told me the same story and also told me the reason why this strict was taken. He told me before some days there came a guy who was on stamp 1a for the last 6 years and he had not even completed his first 2 papers which means students were misusing this facility of working as trainee accountants for full time. Thats why rule was changed so that bogus students dont misuse this facility.


I agree with what i was told about the misusing of the facility. But i think thats a bit wrong rule. The rule should be to stop trainees to misuse facility not to stop them to become trainees.

Instead of putting restrictions on becoming stamp 1a trainees they should have stricken rules for staying on a stamp 1a. I mean what they did that trainees have to complete at least 2 exams and 2 performance objectives in one year should be the only rule for trainees. NOT the other rule should be there which stops us NON EEA nationals to go into an employment.

What i understood by these restrictions is only one thing now they want us to see anymore in this country and want us to leave immediately and this is what i am going to do.

Why should we invest so much time and money when there is no outcome.

Sorry guys but i am completely disappointed by their this new rule and alot of other students are also disappointed by me and they are also thinking either to go back home or to some other country.

This was my second job which i got after 1.5 years of search since the time i came into ireland ( first job i did was as a security guard for 1.5 months before this trainee job).

I am completely disappointed and going back home soon after my june 2012 exams.

Love Irish People who are worth of it even more then just be loved but hate Rule Makers they just make it without thinking what would happen to bright and Good students/workers.

slevins

I've got a friend in the exact same situation, has some exemptions from ACCA but not the required 9. The above comments say that you need the 9 fundamentals to get the stamp 1a or an irish degree. But how are you supposed to get the 9 fundamentals without the visa in the first place? It really makes no sense...

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Pro Hoc Vice

slevins wrote: »

I've got a friend in the exact same situation, has some exemptions from ACCA but not the required 9. The above comments say that you need the 9 fundamentals to get the stamp 1a or an irish degree. But how are you supposed to get the 9 fundamentals without the visa in the first place? It really makes no sense...

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

I assume the person gets a stamp 2 and studies for the required qualifications.