Drumcondra-Clonskeagh commute

FlaFla16

Hello, this may be in the wrong thread also but can anyone please help..... I've just got a job in clonskeagh.. right beside the windy arbour luas stop. However, I may be living in Drumcondra and I'm wondering how long it would take me to get to work from Drumcondra in the mornings. I'm from Galway and haven't a clue about Dublin city, would the traffic be crazy the full way from Drumcondra to Clonskeagh? Any help would be greatly appreciated!!

Victor

Wouldn't you consider living near where you are working?

Driving it would be a bit mad at rush hour. You won't be able to use O'Connell Street or College Green. The Beckett Bridge may be an option: http://maps.google.ie/maps?saddr=Lower+Drumcondra+Rd%2FN1&daddr=Clonskeagh+Rd&hl=en&ll=53.342148,-6.236115&spn=0.106382,0.308647&sll=53.312314,-6.227188&sspn=0.026614,0.077162&geocode=Fb5CLgMd7IKg_w%3BFYp8LQMdiM2g_w&vpsrc=6&mra=dme&mrsp=1&sz=14&t=m&z=12

Windy Arbour stop is still a fair walk from even the near part of Clonskeagh: http://maps.google.ie/maps?saddr=St+Columbanus+Rd&daddr=Bird+Ave&hl=en&ll=53.306237,-6.239247&spn=0.013309,0.038581&sll=53.308621,-6.239119&sspn=0.026616,0.077162&geocode=FdJSLQMdgqGg_w%3BFQxhLQMd8tOg_w&vpsrc=6&dirflg=w&mra=dme&mrsp=1&sz=14&t=m&z=15 If the job is at Clonskeagh Bridge / Beech Hill, Milltown stop would probably be better.

Dublin Bus route 11 may make more sense: http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/Your-Journey1/Timetables/All-Timetables/11/

robd

FlaFla16 wrote: »

Hello, this may be in the wrong thread also but can anyone please help..... I've just got a job in clonskeagh.. right beside the windy arbour luas stop. However, I may be living in Drumcondra and I'm wondering how long it would take me to get to work from Drumcondra in the mornings. I'm from Galway and haven't a clue about Dublin city, would the traffic be crazy the full way from Drumcondra to Clonskeagh? Any help would be greatly appreciated!!

Well public transport looks desperate, given you'd have to get bus and Luas or 2 trains and Luas.

Driving, time is dependent on what part of Drumcondra you're coming from. That's the hard part as you're going with the traffic. I'd estimate 45 mins - 1 hour, from Lower Drumcondra (Iona area).

Best way I'd say (from when I did similar route) would actually be N1, Bolton Street, Church Street, Fr Matthew Bridge, Bridge Street, N81, then cut across various roads (traffic dependent) from there.

zil

Drumcondra is extremely well served by multiple bus services, the vast majority of which will get you to college green and from there the luas is a 5 minute walk away.

Speaking from personal experience you can get from drumcondra to the luas in about 15 minutes in the morning and then it's probably 25 minutes on the luas to windy arbour. In the evening the luas journey time is about the same but if your trying to get a bus anytime between 5 and 7 the traffic usually bumps the journey time up. You can power walk from the luas to drumcondra in about 15-20 minutes so if your feeling energetic and don't feel like sitting on a bus in traffic that's a good option.

AngryLips

The 11 is your best bet in the sense that it would be a commute that requires no changes. it's a decent service in the mornings but less so in the evening rush hour. It's the type of route that the Dublin Bus mobile app is made for because it can be such an inconsistent service.

Jehuty42

robd wrote: »

2 trains and Luas.

Thinking about your post made me just now realise the effect the lack of connection between Red and Green Luas lines has. By public transport OP would take a train from Drumcondra to Tara St/Pearse(or as you say, two trains if the Maynooth line train is terminating in Connolly) and then walk to St Stephen's Green to take the Green line. That's not a short walk by any means, and there'd be a lot fo congestion on the city streets involved as it takes you right through a central shopping district no matter how you slice it. It's a pretty bad public transport interchange. The Green line really seems to just start in the middle of nowhere in terms of the city centre, far from the rest of the network. Buses are then left to provide connections between modes, which they are not good at given the lack of traffic priority and the lack of dedicated connection routes- instead you're muscling in on someone's trip to and from the suburbs . The 90 bus is successful, maybe there should be similar circular shuttle routes to and from the various terminii.

Planning is ridiculous too. Places like Damastown,Mulhuddart, Sandyford and the associated areas like OP has to go to, the huge employers in those industrial estates, were built far from the nearest public transport link. The Maynooth line could have had the Dublin 15 sprawl built around it instead of away from it

I really think public transport in Dublin is handicapped and will never reach full potential given the horrific setup of population centres and employment. Unless we can radically realign and expand existing routes and build brand new ones, demolishing property and buying land or tunnelling as neccesarry, we'll be stuck with a public transport system in the capital that only serves a small number of residential areas and only goes to a small number of useful destinations. Instead we quad-track a line through green fields in Kildare that gets as quickly out of Dublin as it can, avoiding all the suburbs and possible population and now serves stations that generate a handful of people a day. The whole thing is a horrible mess.

AlekSmart

Jehuty42 wrote: »

Planning is ridiculous too. Places like Damastown,Mulhuddart, Sandyford and the associated areas like OP has to go to, the huge employers in those industrial estates, were built far from the nearest public transport link. The Maynooth line could have had the Dublin 15 sprawl built around it instead of away from it

I really think public transport in Dublin is handicapped and will never reach full potential given the horrific setup of population centres and employment. Unless we can radically realign and expand existing routes and build brand new ones, demolishing property and buying land or tunnelling as neccesarry, we'll be stuck with a public transport system in the capital that only serves a small number of residential areas and only goes to a small number of useful destinations. Instead we quad-track a line through green fields in Kildare that gets as quickly out of Dublin as it can, avoiding all the suburbs and possible population and now serves stations that generate a handful of people a day. The whole thing is a horrible mess.

Well put Jehuty42,a good post which underlines the futility of what we're about at the moment....Tinkering,Tweaking or otherwise fiddling about.

WE need to get the basics correct first...be European about it...put in the infrastructure FIRST,then add people,and watch them get on with living.

Anybody remember Ballymun c 1967 and the CIE 'C' Class bus allocated to the 36 route.....well we've still not admitted the lunacy of that,and indeed,we continue the tradition to this day.

patrickbrophy18

Agree completely with Victor. The Number 11 Bus makes a lot of sense. The journey length should be pretty short, considering both destinations are in close range of the city center. Having said that, Drumcondra is a very big place. However, if you are living along the N1 end of Drumcondra, the Number 11 Bus would be your best bet.

LXFlyer

Jehuty42 wrote: »

robd wrote: »

2 trains and Luas.

Thinking about your post made me just now realise the effect the lack of connection between Red and Green Luas lines has. By public transport OP would take a train from Drumcondra to Tara St/Pearse(or as you say, two trains if the Maynooth line train is terminating in Connolly) and then walk to St Stephen's Green to take the Green line. That's not a short walk by any means, and there'd be a lot fo congestion on the city streets involved as it takes you right through a central shopping district no matter how you slice it. It's a pretty bad public transport interchange. The Green line really seems to just start in the middle of nowhere in terms of the city centre, far from the rest of the network. Buses are then left to provide connections between modes, which they are not good at given the lack of traffic priority and the lack of dedicated connection routes- instead you're muscling in on someone's trip to and from the suburbs . The 90 bus is successful, maybe there should be similar circular shuttle routes to and from the various terminii.

The OP's trip is not quite as bad as you might think:

Options include:

Route 11 is a direct route from Drumcondra to Clonskeagh and walk to destination.

Alternatively, train to Pearse and 44 or 61 bus from Westland Row to Windy Arbour.

Routes 16 or 16a from Drumcondra to Camden Street and LUAS from Harcourt stop, 2 minutes away.

From Drumcondra route 11 will also drop you to within 5 minutes of the LUAS at either Kildare Street (for St Stephens Green) or Ranelagh Village.

teddansonswig

patrickbrophy18 wrote: »

]The journey length should be pretty short, considering both destinations are in close range of the city center.

short ? SHORT>?@?>£>@£;!
have you ever sat on public transport in dublin?@?£LK$!£$J
iv spent HOURS of my life on the eleven. it takes a million years to get to town. another million to get through it. and 7 billion to get to Clonskeagh!!

god dam idiots who post on here lead very sheltered lives.

best of luck op, 11's your only chance. just hope you like reading/sleeping in ****ty bus seats.

-Chris-

teddansonswig wrote: »

short ? SHORT>?@?>£>@£;!
have you ever sat on public transport in dublin?@?£LK$!£$J
iv spent HOURS of my life on the eleven. it takes a million years to get to town. another million to get through it. and 7 billion to get to Clonskeagh!!

god dam idiots who post on here lead very sheltered lives.

best of luck op, 11's your only chance. just hope you like reading/sleeping in ****ty bus seats.

Ok, ok. Take it down a notch please...

mikemac1

Get a scooter or motorbike OP

You'll zip through the traffic
And you can get setup for not much more then the price of annual bus ticket

monument

FlaFla16 wrote: »

Hello, this may be in the wrong thread also but can anyone please help..... I've just got a job in clonskeagh.. right beside the windy arbour luas stop. However, I may be living in Drumcondra and I'm wondering how long it would take me to get to work from Drumcondra in the mornings. I'm from Galway and haven't a clue about Dublin city, would the traffic be crazy the full way from Drumcondra to Clonskeagh? Any help would be greatly appreciated!!

Try cycling and getting the Luas.

Depending on where in Drumcondra you're living, St Stephen's Green is only about 3km-4.5km which should take under or around 20mins cycling at a fairly leisurely pace.

It would be likely the quickest and unquestionably more dependable than driving or getting the bus.

overshoot

+1 on cycling. have done ucd to just past glasnevin cemetary in 40 mins. leisurly enough cycle on a mountain bike. think i stopped for a chinese too but it wasnt rush hour.
get a decent town bike off somewhere like wiggle (who deliver to your door) and it will pay for itself in a few months. and your travel time is a lot more predictable