New Stove / Fireplace - appreciate some advice on costs

SeanPG

I have looked through posts and impressed with some of the posts regarding people who have installed stove / instert.

I would appreciate some advice on the following 2 options.

(1) Would it be possible to insert a stove / insert fire into my existing fireplace. Picture attached.
(2) Or, would it make more sense to remove the existing and get a new fireplace / stove installed.

This would not be a DIY job. Before I approach some companies (possibly Lamartine) I would like to get a rough idea of cost for both options.

Any other help / advice would be much appreciated.

Thanks..

Sean

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SeanPG wrote: »

I have looked through posts and impressed with some of the posts regarding people who have installed stove / instert.

I would appreciate some advice on the following 2 options.

(1) Would it be possible to insert a stove / insert fire into my existing fireplace. Picture attached.
(2) Or, would it make more sense to remove the existing and get a new fireplace / stove installed.

This would not be a DIY job. Before I approach some companies (possibly Lamartine) I would like to get a rough idea of cost for both options.

Any other help / advice would be much appreciated.

Thanks..

Sean

Hi:) As your fireplace looks like all marble then fitting an inset stove would look the best option and be very straightforward. I think the inset would be best as if a freestanding stove were fitted onto the marble hearth you still need 300mm infront of the stove for building regulations. I dont think you would have enough depth.
An inset stove is very straightforward to install and should cost about 200-300 euro for labour, and a bit more labour price if the chimney has to be lined. If this is the case I would charge 400 in total for labour if I was fitting stoves and allow 2 days to fit stove and liner. Plus the cost of the fire, anywhere from 500-1300 depending on quality, plus liner if needed.
This Is providing there is a gas fire or electric thats there now and there is a proper clay lined chimney? If your house is from about the 1970's onwards the chimney will more than likely be clay lined. If the chimney is clay lined and in good condition the chimney wont need a stainless steel flexible liner.
If the chimney leaks smoke into other rooms it needs to be lined about 50 euro a metre plus top plate and clamp and cowel.

There are several inset stove options depending on your price range and if a boiler version is required.


Woodwarm fireview 4 and 6.5kw
Esse 300, 350, 350GS with boiler.
Arrow ecoburn.
Stovax stockton insert.

Have a look at this site for different stove reviews by owners.
www.whatstove.co.uk

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SeanPG

Thanks for the reply. Its an electric insert currently. There wa a fire grate etc when we bought the house. I took some measurements tonight and looks like the depth is not right - around 280mm - measureed from back of fireplace to the front of the opening) this seems less than a standard depth.

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SeanPG wrote: »

Thanks for the reply. Its an electric insert currently. There wa a fire grate etc when we bought the house. I took some measurements tonight and looks like the depth is not right - around 280mm - measureed from back of fireplace to the front of the opening) this seems less than a standard depth.

Hi:) I dont know whats the standard depth but the woodwarm 4kw needs 240mm in depth:D

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jamesjustjames

I have a natural gas fire in my front room which I do not use. I am thinking of replacing it with a stove.
The fireplace is black marble with a wooden surround- identical in appearance to one which was in my moth er’s house and had an open fire.
Is it likely that a fireplace installed specifically for a gas fire would be able to take the heat of a stove?
I have no chimney- the fire is vented at the back. I would like to vent the stove at the back and run the flue up the outside of the external wall, which is just behind the fireplace. The wall outside is a two storey gable wall.
Would such a flue have to be insulated?
Would anyone be able to give rough estimates of the cost of labour and likely materials {excluding the stove itself}.
I might also be interested in linking it into the central heating system- depending on price. Would a plumber be likely to do both jobs, or is stove installation too specialist?
I will likely be doing a bit of work/ decoration in the room, so I am not too worried about the mess

Staplor

If you do need to get a fireplace I got one off this crowd, found them to be the cheapest around.

http://marbleandgranite.ie/

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jamesjustjames wrote: »

I have a natural gas fire in my front room which I do not use. I am thinking of replacing it with a stove.
The fireplace is black marble with a wooden surround- identical in appearance to one which was in my moth er’s house and had an open fire.
Is it likely that a fireplace installed specifically for a gas fire would be able to take the heat of a stove?
I have no chimney- the fire is vented at the back. I would like to vent the stove at the back and run the flue up the outside of the external wall, which is just behind the fireplace. The wall outside is a two storey gable wall.
Would such a flue have to be insulated?
Would anyone be able to give rough estimates of the cost of labour and likely materials {excluding the stove itself}.
I might also be interested in linking it into the central heating system- depending on price. Would a plumber be likely to do both jobs, or is stove installation too specialist?
I will likely be doing a bit of work/ decoration in the room, so I am not too worried about the mess

Hi:) I would of sent a PM but couldn't paste your query into it so wouldnt of remembered all of your queries:D

I cant really say if the surround would withstand the heat without seeing a picture of it. It sounds very much like you have a balanced flue gas fire.
With regards the chimney it would have to be a twin wall insulated chimney and not single walled. The plumber would do the whole installation. I dont think this is going to be cheap as the twin wall chimney could cost 1000-1500 on its own plus stove or boiler stove plus the labour. I think a conservative price would be around 3,000:eek:
It would take a very, very long time to pay for itself, as gas is quite cheap per kw.

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jamesjustjames

Thanks SF.

I miss not having a proper fire (and dislike the gas fire), so it is more a luxury than a money-saving thing.

Not at E3,000 however!

I have noticed a few houses recently with new, silver flues, which barely clear the height of kitchen extensions. I had assumed that they were for newly fitted stoves. Would these be twin-wall insulated? (I assumed they were not)

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jamesjustjames wrote: »

Thanks SF.

I miss not having a proper fire (and dislike the gas fire), so it is more a luxury than a money-saving thing.

Not at E3,000 however!

I have noticed a few houses recently with new, silver flues, which barely clear the height of kitchen extensions. I had assumed that they were for newly fitted stoves. Would these be twin-wall insulated? (I assumed they were not)

Yep, they would be twin wall insulated. Has to be for outside use and so as to be heatproof where it goes through the roof timbers etc.
A stove in an extension would be cheaper as the flue providing it's so far away from the main house can be single height so less expensive for the flue.
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ss32

I currently have a mains fed gas fire. Just got a quote for new wall mounted gas fire to be installed. have been quoted 1,600- is this crazy money for this type of work ? The gas fire itself only costs 899 but installation (as it has to be raised 10 inches off the ground and a hearth removed is the extra cost.

Steven81

We bought a Fiachra insert stove and a marble mantlepiece for 2k and that included installation. The different stoves have different outputs and ours gives out 7kW which is high, it heats a large area the sunroom and sitting room so if your room is smaller maybe go for a smaller stove. Overall really happy with the stove, great heat and you definitely burn much less than the open fire, definitely the way forward.