Ireland All or Nothing covering design

jno

Hi everyone.
(I'm new user and my english is poor or so, but...)

A little question about AoN.
Is know what ticket is a 24,12,8,12 ?
(24 number , in 12 number ticket, with "8" guaranteed on 12 number pick)

I have do this with 30 ticket for example.

The entire list made by me , all 100% covering guaranteed :pis:

24,12,07,12 8 ticket
24,12,08,12 30 ticket
24,12,09,12 225 ticket
24,12,10,12 2558 ticket
24,12,11,12 44104 ticket

an example for the 24,12,07,12 is:

01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12
01 02 03 04 05 06 13 14 15 16 17 18
01 07 08 09 10 11 13 14 15 16 17 18
01 07 12 13 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24
02 03 04 05 06 07 19 20 21 22 23 24
03 05 06 08 09 10 11 14 15 16 17 18
08 09 10 11 12 13 19 20 21 22 23 24
12 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24

and , of course, it is possible made a 6 ticket
partial covering with more than 99% guarantee.

ft9

I have no idea what you are trying to say, although I would love too

UrbanSea

Jno,we don't mean to be funny or offensive but don't know what you mean by this.

ft9

All I can make out is he is trying to put together a system for the 'All Or Nothing' Irish lottery.

UrbanSea

With a 99% guaranteed return?

Hmmm

ft9

Which is why I would love to know what he is on about

jno

Hi everyone.
(excuse me for my bad english)


I'm fashinating for the mathematical question:
24 number developed in ticket by 12 formed have 2.704.156 combination.

Now , the covering garantee "7" for every of 2.704.156 combination go out.

For do this the better covering 100% (of all 2.704.156 combination)
is formed by 8 ticket.

If you cut one of this , the guaranteed is not all 100% but minus.
For example: if you cut out the first ticket , the guaranteed go down at 98,381824 and you not covering 43758 of 2.704.156 combination.

PS: HAPPY NEW YEAR FOR ALL !!!;)

jno

:rolleyes: no one interessed to?

Please, every know post or forum for this game
write down a link , thank you.

thesandeman

We just dont understand what you are saying jno (no offence). Try and get somebody to translate your point a bit better and we might be able to join in.

jno

I am interested in mathematical question:
24 numbers, 12 numbers for ticket, developed combinations amounted to 2,704,156.

Now, if I try a system that gives a guarantee of achieving "7" for any combination of extracted 2,704,156.

To do this the system getting better, which covers 100% (all 2,704,156 combinations) consists of 8 tickets.

If you delete one of these, the guarantee is no longer 100%, but less.

For example: if you delete the first ticket, the guarantee drop to 98.381824% (43,758 will be excluded of 2,704,156 combinations).

In this last case is realized only "6".

In few word , I'm in search of a best covering design for win.

DB74

OK I think I know what you are trying to say:

The game involves picking 12 numbers from 24 and hoping that either all or none get picked

So what you are saying here

an example for the 24,12,07,12 is:

01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12
01 02 03 04 05 06 13 14 15 16 17 18
01 07 08 09 10 11 13 14 15 16 17 18
01 07 12 13 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24
02 03 04 05 06 07 19 20 21 22 23 24
03 05 06 08 09 10 11 14 15 16 17 18
08 09 10 11 12 13 19 20 21 22 23 24
12 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24


is that the above combo of 8 lines GUARANTEES that you will have at least 7 on EACH LINE and then you just hope that you can get the other 5

and this

24,12,07,12 8 ticket
24,12,08,12 30 ticket
24,12,09,12 225 ticket
24,12,10,12 2558 ticket
24,12,11,12 44104 ticket

means that you need to buy 30 tickets to guarantee 8 numbers on each line, 225 tickets to guarantee 9 numbers on each line etc

Is this correct?

DB74

So taking the last draw

3,7,9,11,12,13,14,18,19,20,21,22

Line 1 above has 5/12 numbers or 7 "Nones"
Line 2 above has 4/12 numbers or 8 "Nones"
Line 3 above has 6/12 numbers - THEORY IS WRONG?
Line 4 above has 8/12 numbers or 8 "Alls" - Returns €4
Line 5 above has 6/12 numbers - THEORY IS WRONG?
Line 6 above has 5/12 numbers or 7 "Nones"
Line 7 above has 8/12 numbers or 8 "Alls" - Returns €4
Line 8 above has 7/12 numbers or 7 "Alls"

So suppose you played all 8 panels above - cost of €16 (€2 per panel)

You would have returned €8 so a loss of €8 on the day

However, because the game doesn't reward 8 "Nothings" in the same way as it rewards 8 "Alls", if the other 12 numbers had been drawn, you would have received zero and been down €16

DB74

How do you explain the 6/12 in Lines 3 & 5 as this only a 75% covering as opposed to the 100% claimed in your opening post?

jno

Beware, there is no game if he could build a small can win more.
Aon the game is the most honest I've seen so far.

Unfortunately I can not play abroad.
With us the odds of winning are 1 / 10 of your own, we live in a state (nation) completely corrupted and unrecoverable, in which I am ashamed to live, I do not have the money to go away I could be.

There was a game called Totogol in 1996, you had to guess at numbers 8 to 30, a total of about 5000000 possibilities.
It had been built with computers because of the time the guarantee of 7 of 8 had a reduced system of 2000000 combinations.

In 3 months I had improved from 2000000 to 65000 combinations.
Using the numbers from the previous contest, predicting that it would be sorted at least 2 or 3, we could extract from 65000 to about 100 combinations to play (let's say it cost the equivalent of 100 euros) and playing it 4 times a month, the extractions were one to weeks, he had won about 2000.

This is the power of the reduced system, in 1998 this game was shut down because those who ran the game earned a lot, but not enough.

The game was closed and the company that ran the game has created the SuperEnalotto, where no computer in the world has the ability to maneuver 522,000,000 combinations.:mad:

DB74

You din't answer my question, nor did you say whether I am on the right track or not

jno

If it was not clear the reduced guarantees at least a "7" playing all the columns.

If you achieve more than "7" or higher scores, is luck.
If there is a better low covering mondial record , which gives balance between spending and winning, Aon closed the game and do not allow the bet.

I just want to get to make the same bet of Totogol.

I use the numbers of the last draw, it has to perform 5 points.
I use this on the file 24,12,11,12 44104 combinations ,that I choose to give me a 100 ticket with "11" point of result.

This last is only a example.