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Injured Calf

  • 30-12-2011 12:11pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭


    A friend of ours has a 3 week old calf who has hurt his back leg in th elast 2 days. It doesn't appear broken, but to touch it in the upper hip causes discomfort. They got the vet yesterday who told them that he probably has dislocated a joint in the upper part and that there is no treatment. He recommends putting him down. They cannot bear to put down a healthy animal if there is a chance that he could come good.

    Now the calf is healthy in every way. He's sucking well. Can stay standing on his own when lifted and appears well. Years ago, we would have gotten a bone setter to treat an animal like this. However, these last few years, he has retired and is unwell.

    Anyone recommend any treatment for this animal as opposed to putting him down or can anyone recommend anyone in East Galway who might be able to do anything with him?

    Reilig


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭Figerty


    Sounds like a strange dignosis from a Vet. Any vet I know wouldn't recommend putting down an animal unless they were certain. Personally I would give the calf time if it's eating and drinking.

    Try a different vet. A second opinion can't do any harm. With the price of cattle at the moment I wouldn't be giving up on a good calf that can still suck. Animals at this age,like children, heal very fast.

    It might be only ligaments or tendon, and it may never heal , but surely its worth waiting, and perhaps a painkiller.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 197 ✭✭case 5150


    bone setter in mysal in carlow dan o neill is his name nd he v good


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭vanderbadger


    reilig wrote: »
    A friend of ours has a 3 week old calf who has hurt his back leg in th elast 2 days. It doesn't appear broken, but to touch it in the upper hip causes discomfort. They got the vet yesterday who told them that he probably has dislocated a joint in the upper part and that there is no treatment. He recommends putting him down. They cannot bear to put down a healthy animal if there is a chance that he could come good.

    Now the calf is healthy in every way. He's sucking well. Can stay standing on his own when lifted and appears well. Years ago, we would have gotten a bone setter to treat an animal like this. However, these last few years, he has retired and is unwell.

    Anyone recommend any treatment for this animal as opposed to putting him down or can anyone recommend anyone in East Galway who might be able to do anything with him?

    Reilig

    you hate to put them down but the trouble is if you keep them on and they dont come right, had one last year, cows hurts him on night in the shed, broke his hip, vet said he might come so i left him be, he is still hobbling on 3 legs, have to keep him on straw now, not sure what to do with him, i often think he and me would have been better off if I put him down when it happened first


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 109 ✭✭JOAT


    Give him time and there is a major possibility of him coming partially or maybe even fully right. Had a lovely BBx heifer a few years back that the cow stood on in the shed. She did serious damage to ligaments and tendons high up on her hip. Vet couldnt do anything for her. She was perfect in every other way. Gave her a bit of TLC for a few weeks and she kept thriving. She never came right and couldnt put any weight on the leg but thrived as well as any of the others and she was a right hardy little one. She hobbled around for 12 months and ended up a lovely heifer for the butcher. Even though she was like a dog that got hit by a car on 3 legs it didnt hold her back one bit. Whatever you do dont put the calf down unless its in pain and needs constant pain killers. A small bit of TLC and you'd be amazed how they come around


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 9,041 Mod ✭✭✭✭greysides


    I presume a joint infection was ruled out.

    I'd set a time period, say three weeks, and STICK to it. Look after it well until then and then decide.

    Some animals will compensate well, others won't. If they totally can't use the backleg then the other comes under strain and the tendons give.

    IMO, all opinions above are valid, only time will tell which road is travelled.

    The aim of argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress. Joseph Joubert

    The ultimate purpose of debate is not to produce consensus. It's to promote critical thinking.

    Adam Grant



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    I just talked to them. They got someone to look at him. No joint out of place. He recons that there could be a hairline fracture or a chipped bone. Recommended getting some penecillen off the vet for him and giving him a week - so that's their plan for now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,716 ✭✭✭1chippy


    We had a massive maiden heifer a good few years back that broke her leg.At the time she would ha ve won any prize any way vet came out and said definately put her down. we wouldnt have any of it, so we got another vet who agreed he would set it. we had that cow for years and some very fancy calves. when the tb test would be on we always pointed it out to the vet.
    Had another one lost the bottom half of his leg (not sure how) but after it happened dad was talking to someone in a local restaurant. by pure chance a doctor who made prostetic limbs overheard him and askeed would it be ok to try a prostetic leg on the calf. i know some of you are probably laughing right now but he got the front page of the farming indo. sad to say limb worked ok but as the calf grew his shoulder started to give but we factoried him at about a year and a half. No massive weight but he was still able to walk into the factory.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,701 ✭✭✭moy83


    I think there is a bonesetter in gort that my aunt used a couple of times with good results . Ill get the number off her later and pm it to you if you want to give him a go


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Bizzum


    We've had a few over the years that got bad knocks/breaks and the like. One at the min that got a hurt as a calf a few days old.
    Once they wouldn't be in much pain, chance her. Tighten her up in a small well bedded pen. Time will tell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 828 ✭✭✭TUBBY


    bonesetter in moate that does cattle. he very good. PM me if you want no.

    Would be less than an hour from carrick


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    It's a friend of ours in galway. I think they got the guy from gort today. I know the guy in moate -he does humans as well as animals??
    TUBBY wrote: »
    bonesetter in moate that does cattle. he very good. PM me if you want no.

    Would be less than an hour from carrick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 828 ✭✭✭TUBBY


    Thats the one, Costello lad. He very good. Hope the calf shows signs of improvement now after that. Let us know.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15 mayowillie


    Hold on and see what she'll do. I had a black heifer with abroken foot down at the bottom, just above the crube, about 4 weeks ago and vet said she'd never be right and to put her down. but I fed her on, put her in a pen on her own on straw and after about 4 weeks I took the cast off and she walked, she's sound now. Couldn't sell her through the mart though as foot didn't set straight, but you want 20/20 vision to spot it. If she was sold through the mart she could be fired up again, so it's the hook for her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭Figerty


    Had a heifer a 20 years ago that jumped of a wall and broke her front leg. We got her home and the vet put a cast on it. It set fairly straight with usual bump at the break.

    The old man declared her at the mart and she sold no bother with a lot of lads looking at the leg.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 tazamia


    We have a calf about 10 weeks old got his back leg stuck in a slatt about a month ago. Got him out and gave him a couple of penstrip injections seemed alright leg was not broken. but now he is back hobbling around and it looks like his leg has gone septic and seems to have lost feeling below his knee. any ideas?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    vet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 718 ✭✭✭F.D


    reilig wrote: »
    A friend of ours has a 3 week old calf who has hurt his back leg in th elast 2 days. It doesn't appear broken, but to touch it in the upper hip causes discomfort. They got the vet yesterday who told them that he probably has dislocated a joint in the upper part and that there is no treatment. He recommends putting him down. They cannot bear to put down a healthy animal if there is a chance that he could come good.

    Now the calf is healthy in every way. He's sucking well. Can stay standing on his own when lifted and appears well. Years ago, we would have gotten a bone setter to treat an animal like this. However, these last few years, he has retired and is unwell.

    Anyone recommend any treatment for this animal as opposed to putting him down or can anyone recommend anyone in East Galway who might be able to do anything with him?

    Reilig
    We have a simialar animal, pulled all the ligiment/tendions in his back knee, got the vet out he said the same get rid of him, a person recommended the bone setter aswell but he said he could do nothng for that sort of injury, long story short we felt sorry for him kept him, he was in no pain but could not keep up with the cattle in the field, did not thrive at all, now in the shed on straw giving him meal and silage and his good leg is actually turning in under him as he starts putting on weight now, he will be skipped if he goes to the factory so we were thinking of getting him butchered for ourselves, but he's still not good enough, moral of the story i'm sorry i did not get rid of him at the start not because of the cost of the meal or trying to work around him because it bugs me seeing him trying to hop around, and hoping he wont do himself another injury in the process


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    F.D wrote: »
    We have a simialar animal, pulled all the ligiment/tendions in his back knee, got the vet out he said the same get rid of him, a person recommended the bone setter aswell but he said he could do nothng for that sort of injury, long story short we felt sorry for him kept him, he was in no pain but could not keep up with the cattle in the field, did not thrive at all, now in the shed on straw giving him meal and silage and his good leg is actually turning in under him as he starts putting on weight now, he will be skipped if he goes to the factory so we were thinking of getting him butchered for ourselves, but he's still not good enough, moral of the story i'm sorry i did not get rid of him at the start not because of the cost of the meal or trying to work around him because it bugs me seeing him trying to hop around, and hoping he wont do himself another injury in the process

    Bone setter put back the joint. i saw the calf on saturday, he is back on the slats and has made a complete recovery!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭vanderbadger


    F.D wrote: »
    We have a simialar animal, pulled all the ligiment/tendions in his back knee, got the vet out he said the same get rid of him, a person recommended the bone setter aswell but he said he could do nothng for that sort of injury, long story short we felt sorry for him kept him, he was in no pain but could not keep up with the cattle in the field, did not thrive at all, now in the shed on straw giving him meal and silage and his good leg is actually turning in under him as he starts putting on weight now, he will be skipped if he goes to the factory so we were thinking of getting him butchered for ourselves, but he's still not good enough, moral of the story i'm sorry i did not get rid of him at the start not because of the cost of the meal or trying to work around him because it bugs me seeing him trying to hop around, and hoping he wont do himself another injury in the process

    same story, have a chap thats just a year now, vet advised me the other week while testing that this lads good leg wouldnt hold him much longer, butcher is taking him wed evening, dont know how he will work out but no point leaving him as he is. he was stretched out one morning a few weeks back when i went up to shed, I thought he was dead, he was down on his bad side and couldnt get up, poor old devil once he was flipped over he was ok..just afraid now what shape he will be after after a trip in cattle box


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 energymassage


    moy83 wrote: »
    I think there is a bonesetter in gort that my aunt used a couple of times with good results . Ill get the number off her later and pm it to you if you want to give him a go

    did you ever get the number for that man in gort, my wife suffers with joint out of place in back and have not found a decent bone setter. massage works for a time to relieve the pain then comes back. please let me know if you have number would be great

    thank you

    simon


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 95 ✭✭Silver 1234


    Go to the Bonesetter Daniel O Neill in Myshall Carlow. He works wonders with animals and people. Seen the results of both.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 energymassage


    thank you will look him up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 lmijron


    Does anyone know the number of Pat Costello in Moate? He is a bone setter


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭marknjb


    Go to the Bonesetter Daniel O Neill in Myshall Carlow. He works wonders with animals and people. Seen the results of both.
    would you have the number for this man . have a smashing cxy calf hurt him self in the crush while testing .he is hopping around on it now for about a month and a half it seems to be around the foot he hurt


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 423 ✭✭shot2go


    (059)9157636


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭marknjb


    shot2go wrote: »
    (059)9157636
    thanks shot2go


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 energymassage


    lmijron wrote: »
    Does anyone know the number of Pat Costello in Moate? He is a bone setter
    sorry i dont, but i know some in galway if you still need. post me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭king_m


    I read through this thread looking for the number of the bone setter in gort, but it appears any body who had it has closed their accounts. Any body else out there have his mobile number ger donoughe is his name, I have a calf that could do with his help, if not its to the knackary yard for her.........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭Mac Taylor


    king_m wrote: »
    I read through this thread looking for the number of the bone setter in gort, but it appears any body who had it has closed their accounts. Any body else out there have his mobile number ger donoughe is his name, I have a calf that could do with his help, if not its to the knackary yard for her.........

    Don't have a number for him, but he is also one of the local butchers in Gort, so you should be able to get a number for him through directory enquires


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 968 ✭✭✭Count Mondego


    Mac Taylor wrote: »
    Don't have a number for him, but he is also one of the local butchers in Gort, so you should be able to get a number for him through directory enquires

    Donoghue I'd say.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 9,041 Mod ✭✭✭✭greysides


    Mac Taylor wrote: »
    Don't have a number for him, but he is also one of the local butchers in Gort, so you should be able to get a number for him through directory enquires

    Good access to spare parts then. :)

    The aim of argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress. Joseph Joubert

    The ultimate purpose of debate is not to produce consensus. It's to promote critical thinking.

    Adam Grant



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 199 ✭✭The Gride


    lmijron wrote: »
    Does anyone know the number of Pat Costello in Moate? He is a bone setter


    086 3453868 and 0906 481540

    This guy is a genius. He fixed my injuries which all the so called specialist could not do and for very little money. I now have my life back. Anyone with back or muscle issues should check Pat Costello in Moate County Westmeath out. You won't be disappointed.


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