Saorview bad reception

BionicRasher

Getting 'Bad Signal' warning on my TV over the past couple of days. I can get the channels but there is slight breakup every now and then and its pretty annoying.
Anyone else seeing this? I wonder is it the weather/high winds over the past 2 days. (BTW I have an indoor aerial and get great reception from Crosshaven mast) so its not my aerial as it hasn't moved at all

Atlantic Dawn

Try doing a rescan.

BionicRasher

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Try doing a rescan.

Already tried - same interference as before

pudzy

ok, this happens when a metor is not used to stup aerial.. with digital involved now the aerial needs to be setup with metor... if its offline anybit it wont work right...

STB

pudzy wrote: »

ok, this happens when a metor is not used to stup aerial.. with digital involved now the aerial needs to be setup with metor... if its offline anybit it wont work right...

NO.

tui0hcg wrote: »

Getting 'Bad Signal' warning on my TV over the past couple of days. I can get the channels but there is slight breakup every now and then and its pretty annoying.
Anyone else seeing this? I wonder is it the weather/high winds over the past 2 days. (BTW I have an indoor aerial and get great reception from Crosshaven mast) so its not my aerial as it hasn't moved at all

It is your aerial!

Problem. Indoor Aerial. Resposition the aerial beside the window (preferably on the window cill). Most TVs have a On screen signal meter display. Move the aerial around tyhe cill area till you get optimum reception.

If this doesnt help then the solution is to get an outdoor aerial.

BionicRasher

pudzy wrote: »

ok, this happens when a metor is not used to stup aerial.. with digital involved now the aerial needs to be setup with metor... if its offline anybit it wont work right...

It was working fine all along - aerial hasn't moved a millimetre in the past 3 months.

watty

tui0hcg wrote: »

It was working fine all along - aerial hasn't moved a millimetre in the past 3 months.

Irrelevant. With digital reception you can be just on the edge of having a good enough signal. Then the slightest environmental change is a problem (Weather, man made interference, solar interference etc).

Get a proper outdoor aerial. More than 90% of locations need an outdoor aerial for reliable reception.

BionicRasher

watty wrote: »

Irrelevant. With digital reception you can be just on the edge of having a good enough signal. Then the slightest environmental change is a problem (Weather, man made interference, solar interference etc).

OK so it can be effected by weather - question answered thanks
signal meter on TV is moving between 7 and 9 out of 10 at the moment so it seems to be weather interference.

watty wrote: »

Get a proper outdoor aerial. More than 90% of locations need an outdoor aerial for reliable reception.

So maybe I am in the 10% as my indoor aerial seems to get perfect reception 99.9% of the time

Peter Rhea

tui0hcg wrote: »

... signal meter on TV is moving between 7 and 9 out of 10 at the moment so it seems to be weather interference.

Trees moving in the wind? Are there any between the aerial & transmitter site? Even fairly small ones will affect an indoor aerial if it's sited low down in the building.

BionicRasher

Peter Rhea wrote: »

Trees moving in the wind? Are there any between the aerial & transmitter site? Even fairly small ones will affect an indoor aerial if it's sited low down in the building.

1 tree about 50m away and not in direct line of site between me and mast but maybe its just the winds over last few days

Peter Rhea

Solar winds? Might "blow" radio waves off course ...

watty

tui0hcg wrote: »

OK so it can be effected by weather - question answered thanks
signal meter on TV is moving between 7 and 9 out of 10 at the moment so it seems to be weather interference.
So maybe I am in the 10% as my indoor aerial seems to get perfect reception 99.9% of the time

Unless you have a separate digital meter, unlike analogue, you don't know how good the reception is when the picture seems perfect.

A clean picture isn't perfect reception. The Signal level also isn't the most relevant measure but Signal Quality (BER).

If you were in the 10% a 6" (15cm) bit of wire in the aerial socket would work.

BionicRasher

watty wrote: »

Unless you have a separate digital meter, unlike analogue, you don't know how good the reception is when the picture seems perfect.

A clean picture isn't perfect reception. The Signal level also isn't the most relevant measure but Signal Quality (BER).

If you were in the 10% a 6" (15cm) bit of wire in the aerial socket would work.

As I say - signal meter is between 7 and 9 at the moment - jumping up and down at present. Normally its static on 8 out of 10. Signal Quality is at about 30% presently and normally is well up around 70%.
That's why I wondered is the weather a factor in signal quality / strength.
Aerial I have is well over 10 years old and is a made in China cheapo so is not much better than a bit of wire!

vicwatson

My reception pixelates when it lashes rain !?

watty

not enough signal for rain margin.

A decent aerial can last for 40 years. Outdoors! An indoor aerial should last for ever. If it's a cheap indoor aerial, as dramatic a change as that suggests a snapped wire or faulty connector.

kmb

Hi,
I set mine up using a outdoor aerial but setup in the attic using crosshaven also and though the picture is perfect ,there was a breakup now and again on the audio.I did a rescan.
Using a Ariva 120 the top bar is at 80% and the bottom bar is at 90% with both steady,no flucuations.
Incidentialy what is the yellow bar for as it also shows a percentage on the bottom of the channel pane.

Johnboy1951

kmb wrote: »

Hi,
I set mine up using a outdoor aerial but setup in the attic using crosshaven also and though the picture is perfect ,there was a breakup now and again on the audio.I did a rescan.
Using a Ariva 120 the top bar is at 80% and the bottom bar is at 90% with both steady,no flucuations.
Incidentialy what is the yellow bar for as it also shows a percentage on the bottom of the channel pane.

The time of the present programme .....

lucernarian

watty wrote: »

Irrelevant. With digital reception you can be just on the edge of having a good enough signal. Then the slightest environmental change is a problem (Weather, man made interference, solar interference etc).

Get a proper outdoor aerial. More than 90% of locations need an outdoor aerial for reliable reception.

Now now watty, we both know that there are continual reports of indoor aerials working fine. If even half of Dublin alone (never mind how most of the urban centres have a Saorview site within a couple of miles of them) could pick up Saorview in at least one room of a house, that figure of over 90% would be well off. "Working fine" is subjective of course and some people will describe a dropout every day or so to be reliable while others would not tolerate seeing any dropout more than once a month.

There'll always be circumstances where people may not be able to properly erect an outdoor aerial so posters will only be able to go so far. Even getting a proper aerial and erecting it in the loft instead will make a big improvement on a one for all overamplified and overpriced indoor aerial!

BionicRasher

watty wrote: »

Get a proper outdoor aerial. More than 90% of locations need an outdoor aerial for reliable reception.

My 10 yr old plus indoor rabbits ears aerial is now showing Signal Quality 10 out 0f 10 and strength is 7 out of 10 and its maybe a coincidence that the weather is now a lot better i.e no heavy wind or rain at the moment but looks like I am good to go again.

To_be_confirmed wrote: »

Now now watty, we both know that there are continual reports of indoor aerials working fine. If even half of Dublin alone (never mind how most of the urban centres have a Saorview site within a couple of miles of them) could pick up Saorview in at least one room of a house, that figure of over 90% would be well off. "Working fine" is subjective of course and some people will describe a dropout every day or so to be reliable while others would not tolerate seeing any dropout more than once a month.

There'll always be circumstances where people may not be able to properly erect an outdoor aerial so posters will only be able to go so far. Even getting a proper aerial and erecting it in the loft instead will make a big improvement on a one for all overamplified and overpriced indoor aerial!

I seem to get great reception from indoor aerial. We have a aerial on the roof but there are bad connections somewhere in cables and I am not sure if it worked for previous house owners.
It is a project to get a proper aerial in the attic or fix the one on the roof but funds dictate that its not a high priority at the moment so as long as the indoor one is working I wont be changing for a while yet.