Eddie O'Sullivan

LemonPudding

Eddie begging for a job:

EDDIE O'SULLIVAN is "definitely" interested in working with the Ospreys, who are seeking a head coach to replace Scott Johnson.

The Welsh outfit announced yesterday that Johnson will be leaving the club when his contract expires at the end of the season to take up a position with the Scotland national team.

Former Ireland coach O'Sullivan has been looking for a suitable post since finishing his two-and-a-half-year stint with the US Eagles after the World Cup and last night his manager, John Baker, confirmed that he would be interested in working with the Ospreys if the opportunity arose.

"Eddie O'Sullivan is definitely looking for a suitable job in rugby," said Baker. "Unlike soccer, rugby will never be a global sport and there are a limited amount of potential clubs. Is Eddie available for a position with the Ospreys? Yes he is, 100pc."

An Ospreys spokesperson described Johnson's departure as "a huge disappointment" and said the club will now consider their options in terms of seeking a replacement before making any further comment.

"He will be sadly missed by everybody," said Ospreys chief operations officer, Andrew Hore.

"Informing us of his intentions at this early stage allows us to consider our next course of action and the options available as we plan for the future."

The 49-year-old Australian, a former Wales and US Eagles coach, will become senior assistant to Andy Robinson with Scotland, with the SRU confirming that Johnson will be in place for their June tour to Australia, Fiji and Samoa.

"I have huge respect for Scott as a person and coach having coached against him on numerous occasions," said Robinson.

- Hugh Farrelly

Teferi

I don't see a problem? How dare a decent, if limited coach look for a job?

danthefan

Teferi wrote: »

I don't see a problem? How dare a decent, if limited coach look for a job?

My thoughts exactly. Taking a pro-active position in looking for a job. Whatever next?

padser

danthefan wrote: »

Teferi wrote: »

I don't see a problem? How dare a decent, if limited coach look for a job?

My thoughts exactly. Taking a pro-active position in looking for a job. Whatever next?

To be issuing a blanket "I'm available" smacks of desperation though.

It's not comforting from an Irish perspective when one of our recent former coaches is that hard up....

Losty Dublin

Who said it smacks of desperation? Opening comes up, the media contact any potential candidate out there and print whatever comes to hand; it's called a bad news day in the trade.

danthefan

padser wrote: »

To be issuing a blanket "I'm available" smacks of desperation though.

It's not comforting from an Irish perspective when one of our recent former coaches is that hard up....

You'll have to explain that one to me.

wixfjord

padser wrote: »

To be issuing a blanket "I'm available" smacks of desperation though.

It's not comforting from an Irish perspective when one of our recent former coaches is that hard up....

Eh?!
It's savvy media usage for the purpose of making himself available for the plum Ospreys job.

Jesus I'll never understand the hatred towards Eddie on here and in Irish rugby fan circles, when Kidney gets off scott free with even more archaic, antiquated gameplan, tactics and selection policies, and with arguably a better team.
If only Eddie had a strong provincial connection eh?

Tox56

wixfjord wrote: »

Eh?!
It's savvy media usage for the purpose of making himself available for the plum Ospreys job.

Jesus I'll never understand the hatred towards Eddie on here and in Irish rugby fan circles, when Kidney gets off scott free with even more archaic, antiquated gameplan, tactics and selection policies, and with arguably a better team.
If only Eddie had a strong provincial connection eh?

I would hardly say Kidney gets off scott free. His selection policies are hugely criticised (Earls at 13?) and many of his decisions are simply baffling.

Tox56

Tox56 wrote: »

I would hardly say Kidney gets off scott free. His selection policies are hugely criticised (Earls at 13?) and many of his decisions are simply baffling.

only on here to be honest, mainstream media worship the ground he stands on, because he delivered a grandslam when Jones missed a kick that was incredibly unlike him.

wixfjord

Deleted User wrote: »

only on here to be honest, mainstream media worship the ground he stands on, because he delivered a grandslam when Jones missed a kick that was incredibly unlike him.

And even on here, only by one side.

wixfjord

wixfjord wrote: »

And even on here, only by one side.

Ireland fans vs non-Ireland fans?
logical people vs illogical people?

No need to make everything into a clan war wixfjord. Fanning the flames is a bad as starting the fire.

mathepac

LemonPudding wrote: »

Eddie begging for a job: ...

I wonder does LemonPudding have an agenda here given that this is his/her first post?

wixfjord

Deleted User wrote: »

Ireland fans vs non-Ireland fans?
logical people vs illogical people?

No need to make everything into a clan war wixfjord. Fanning the flames is a bad as starting the fire.

Heh?
Didn't know you were a mod now!
I was actually talking about Kidney supporters vs non Kidney supporters, so you read a bit too much into that.

pickarooney

That's a bit of a tautology, to say that only a man's supporters support him while his non supporters don't support him.

padser

wixfjord wrote: »

padser wrote: »

To be issuing a blanket "I'm available" smacks of desperation though.

It's not comforting from an Irish perspective when one of our recent former coaches is that hard up....

Eh?!
It's savvy media usage for the purpose of making himself available for the plum Ospreys job.

Jesus I'll never understand the hatred towards Eddie on here and in Irish rugby fan circles, when Kidney gets off scott free with even more archaic, antiquated gameplan, tactics and selection policies, and with arguably a better team.
If only Eddie had a strong provincial connection eh?

Sorry - should have been clearer.

Needing to use the media to try and get himself into the frame for the Ospreys job (which it looks like he is doing - as he previously did for the English job) smacks of desperation.

I'm not saying the fact he wants the ospreys job is surprising / desperate.

It would be difficult to read over previous posts and mine and conclude that I let DK off scott free. I've documented over and over again how biased, naive and limited i think he is.

MCannon77

Eddie gets a awful bad rap which imo is undeserved...... I think he would be a fine appointment for the Preys

CatFromHue

Deleted User wrote: »

only on here to be honest, mainstream media worship the ground he stands on, because he delivered a grandslam when Jones missed a kick that was incredibly unlike him.

In fairness it's not just the Grand Slam but his Heineken Cup success with Munster that gives him a lot of leeway.

Things are starting to turn ever so slightly I feel though.

wixfjord

pickarooney wrote: »

That's a bit of a tautology, to say that only a man's supporters support him while his non supporters don't support him.

Sorry, it's not actually.
What Emmet said was that I was bringin up a Munster v Leinster debate, and saying that only Munster fans were in favour of Kidney, and vice versa.

However, my original point was that there are two seperate groups on here, and many Munster fans do not support Kidney, and also vice versa.

Emmet was putting words in my mouth and using them as a stick to beat me, which I took exception to. "No need to turn everything into a clan war wixford" is not something which I like to be accused of.

pickarooney

He must have ninja edited it because there's no mention of Munster or Leinster in the post you quoted.

wixfjord

pickarooney wrote: »

He must have ninja edited it because there's no mention of Munster or Leinster in the post you quoted.

"Clan warfare" is referring to it.

[Jackass]

Eddie is a decent coach, and If I was a Munster fan I'd take him over McGahan. I'd like to see him in the PRO12.

Some decent Irish coaches around though, O'Shea will be next for Ireland with Kidney back to Munster in the next couple of years imo...Elwood is good and Bradley doing suprisingly well at Edinburgh.

Podge_irl

Ospreys could do a lot worse.

almighty1

I think Ospreys should snap him up. In the interim he would make an excellent backs coach for somebody, some of the Irish backline play during his tenure was outstanding.

Gets alot on unjustified criticism here.

danthefan

CatFromHue wrote: »

In fairness it's not just the Grand Slam but his Heineken Cup success with Munster that gives him a lot of leeway.

Things are starting to turn ever so slightly I feel though.

Read Thornley's 2011 review in the IT today. It's nauseating. Some fans are realising Kidney is not doing a particularly good job but you won't find a word against him in the press.

PhatPiggins

Deleted User wrote: »

only on here to be honest, mainstream media worship the ground he stands on, because he delivered a grandslam when Jones missed a kick that was incredibly unlike him.

Only difference between O'Sullivan and Kidney results wise is a Paul O'Connell knock on. Whether or not Kidney can prove to be the great facilitator we're lead to believe we'll find out this season.

I think EOS would be a good fit for the Ospreys. As for him 'begging' for a job :pac:.

PhatPiggins

danthefan wrote: »

Read Thornley's 2011 review in the IT today. It's nauseating. Some fans are realising Kidney is not doing a particularly good job but you won't find a word against him in the press.

Thornleys a boot licker but he doesn't upset anyone and as a result gets interviews and insights that no other journo gets. For that reason I like his stuff regardless if I agree with his personal opinions.

AtItAllDayRef

Any head coach in pro rugby is sacked or announces they are leaving at the end of the season - Barker "Yeah Eddie's interested in the job"

S. Goodspeed

Only difference between Eddie and Declan's Irish managerial careers is one Steve Jones missed kicked. If he had nailed that what would Kidney really have achieved? Eddie was just missing that little bit of luck, otherwise he'd have delivered a couple of grand slams, and an aussie WC defeat (2003) to go along with the triple crowns. He also went closer to beating the All Blacks than Declan did or dare I say ever will. I am not trying to knock Kidney but how the vast majority here consider him to be a "ligend" and EOS a farce is unbelievable.

GerM

AtItAllDayRef wrote: »

Any head coach in pro rugby is sacked or announces they are leaving at the end of the season - Barker "Yeah Eddie's interested in the job"

Edinburgh, Biarritz, Ospreys, Cardiff and counting.....

CatFromHue

danthefan wrote: »

Read Thornley's 2011 review in the IT today. It's nauseating. Some fans are realising Kidney is not doing a particularly good job but you won't find a word against him in the press.

The headline is:

A year of triumphs, great and small

The main picture is:



Something's not right here! (in that the picture is of two sad people and not two triumphant people).

overshoot

S. Goodspeed wrote: »

Only difference between Eddie and Declan's Irish managerial careers is one Steve Jones missed kicked. If he had nailed that what would Kidney really have achieved?

he still would have won the championship. o'sullivan only managed second. personally though i rate both highly. id think things had just gone stale under eos and the new coaches arrival helped get them over the line (well he did more thats a bit simplified). i really want him at ulster, and to get his hands on all those academy players coming through (shame it wont happen)

danthefan

Things definitely went stale under EOS and it was time for him to move on but he did a massive amount for Irish rugby and he's a good technical coach. If he came to Leinster some day I wouldn't be too worried.

Tox56

When will Conor O'Shea come in and finally sort out the Irish team??

phog

wixfjord wrote: »

And even on here, only by one side.

wixfjord wrote: »

Heh?
Didn't know you were a mod now!
I was actually talking about Kidney supporters vs non Kidney supporters, so you read a bit too much into that.

Why would a non Kidney supporter support Kidney

wixfjord

phog wrote: »

Why would a non Kidney supporter support Kidney

Well eh they wouldn't, what's your point?
As I say, unlike the media which is generally all pro Kidney, there's not the same consensus on here, and one side seems to see no wrong.

LemonPudding

Tox56 wrote: »

When will Conor O'Shea come in and finally sort out the Irish team??

Conor O'Shea - Ireland Coach????. Think he'd be a better bet to come in as IRFU Director of Rugby. IRFU Director of Rugby has been in place since 1990s, maybe bring in O'Shea to bring in some new ideas.

astonaidan

phog wrote: »

Why would a non Kidney supporter support Kidney

I think he tried to turn it into a munster/leinster thing, Failed and is now miserably trying to cover himself as an unbiased irish fan

Hippo

danthefan wrote: »

If he came to Leinster some day I wouldn't be too worried.

Oh no thanks. No squad rotation, no substitutions, all of 3 rehearsed moves from the set-piece for the backs. Talk about taking a step back in time, I wouldn't want him near Leinster after seeing what someone like Schmidt can do.

justsomebloke

Truthfully I don't think this thread is going anywhere and it's getting there fast. There is a lot of low level trolling, back seat modding and probably player/pundit abuse so I'm locking this up