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Is this a lie from first registration?

  • 26-12-2011 8:32pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭


    How does some like this happen? It's not even the correct model for car!?:eek::confused:

    Registered as:

    Honda Civic
    VTEC OHC 1.7
    Registration: 01WW6716
    Engine: 1.7L
    Fuel Type: Petrol
    Colour: Blue

    But is:
    2001 INTEGRA TYPE R 2.0L 220BHP

    1.7 ON LOGBOOK-Cheaper tax&Insurance
    Completely original Type R.

    http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2717926
    View2-8714605.jpeg


Comments

  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,991 ✭✭✭mathepac


    Did you try the VIN through a Honda dealer or Japanese web-site? (I assume it's an import) It may be a VIN cloned off a 1.7 Civic. The car cannot be put on the road or insured.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭Damokc


    mathepac wrote: »
    Did you try the VIN through a Honda dealer or Japanese web-site? (I assume it's an import)

    How would you find out the VIN? is that not stamped somewhere on the car? this is just an ad I came across looking for 1.7 civics


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭ARGINITE


    You should be able to find it on the bulk head in the engine compartment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,223 ✭✭✭Nissan doctor


    Possibly a stolen car using a reg and logbook from a civic?

    I know a 94 2.5 skyline that I sold a few years ago turned up last year on donedeal as a 2.0 with 96 plates on it!:rolleyes:


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,370 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Or when the car was originally VRT'd, it was VRT'd as the 1.7 civic due to lower VRT rates and then lower motor tax.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,106 ✭✭✭✭TestTransmission


    kceire wrote: »
    Or when the car was originally VRT'd, it was VRT'd as the 1.7 civic due to lower VRT rates and then lower motor tax.

    I'm betting this, car has never been taxed or insured properly.

    Would it pass the NCT?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,314 ✭✭✭Technoprisoner


    a lot of jap importers use to fiddle the vrt and tell them it was a 1.7 instead of 2.0 so they could pay less vrt


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭Damokc


    Ya, would this pass the NCT? Or does the NCT just test whats in front of them and "ask no questions" kinda thing?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,223 ✭✭✭Nissan doctor


    Damokc wrote: »
    Ya, would this pass the NCT? Or does the NCT just test whats in front of them and "ask no questions" kinda thing?


    Makes no odds, any insurance taken out on this as a 1.7 civic will not be worth the paper its written on.

    Its not even the same car ffs never mind the same engine!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭Damokc


    Makes no odds, any insurance taken out on this as a 1.7 civic will not be worth the paper its written on.

    Its not even the same car ffs never mind the same engine!

    That's what I thinking but thought it as a given. If said car drove into me would their insurance cover damage done to me but not the "Intevic" damage?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,223 ✭✭✭Nissan doctor


    Damokc wrote: »
    That's what I thinking but thought it as a given. If said car drove into me would their insurance cover damage done to me but not the "Intevic" damage?


    Nope, it would be the same as being hit by an uninsured driver.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭Damokc


    Surely Revenue have one young lad they could sit at a PC and go trough DoneDeal etc. everyday. There's dozens of cars like this uploaded every day, if not EVERY HOUR!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,157 ✭✭✭Compton


    they could... they could also do a lot of other easy things but they don't. Fat pigs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭Damokc


    shblob wrote: »
    they could... they could also do a lot of other easy things but they don't. Fat pigs.

    Id do it for them for 20e a day and I'd definitely get at least 10 a day.:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,237 ✭✭✭darragh o meara


    There's a lot of cars around with incorrect details on the tax books. Starlet turbos, glanzas, imprezas & evo's to name but a few have all fell victim to this scam. A dealer from Dublin went to jail over it too iirc.

    When I recently looked at a few evo's I found 7 out of the 10 I saw with wrong models on taxbook, some were down as 1.6 glx others were down as 2.0 gsr. It's the same with the imprezas most are down as non turbo models and lads think they can insure them as such. Ok the tax on a 2.0 be it non turbo or turbo is the same but that's it, insurance is null and void if you don't tell them what it really is, so no point in really paying out for it. As for starlets and glanza turbos, I don't think I've ever heard of one actually registered as a turbo.

    I personally wouldn't touch any car that didn't have the proper details on the book as your only asking for trouble.by buying one.

    As for revenue checking up on this, I don't think there is a whole like they can do about it, bar chasing up the person who initially
    Vrtd the car.

    Anything advertised as such is dodgy and all information passed to the cops.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 132 ✭✭GL scrappy


    Where on the taxbook/registration cert should it say whether a car is turbo/non turbo?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 998 ✭✭✭Chriscl1


    It doesn't but the insurer should know by the chassis code if they request it.


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