Classic porsche

daithi09

I know he doesn't mention a service history/receipts, but the car looks great! I don't know much about 911s but I would've thought this looks fairly bulky and modern for this sort of year? (I always thought the older ones were a lot smaller/skinnier). Prob won't be buying it anyway tho:(:(

http://classiccarsales.ie/buy/view/Porsche_911/1812

Bigus

daithi09 wrote: »

I know he doesn't mention a service history/receipts, but the car looks great! I don't know much about 911s but I would've thought this looks fairly bulky and modern for this sort of year? (I always thought the older ones were a lot smaller/skinnier). Prob won't be buying it anyway tho:(:(

http://classiccarsales.ie/buy/view/Porsche_911/1812

Its got lots of later model parts on it or is a later model with an old book, kinda goes with he territory on these yokes,

personally they are better to look at on the internet than own, even with the cheap tax:(

carchaeologist

It looks much newer than a 68 alright?

unkel

I don't know much about 911s, but the early ones (in the 60s) all had 2l engines. And not the much later 2.7l engine this car has according to mywheels / cartell:

Porsche 911
Carrera See Images
Registration: ZV42533
Engine: 2.7L
Fuel Type: Petrol
Colour: Purple

Hopefully some people who know a little more about these cars will come on here to comment. Should be interesting

mathepac

1968 car with leather electrically adjustable seats, 3-point seat belts and the "whale-tail" spoiler, plus the other stuff? I think not. To me that's an early 1980's car as featured in "Wall St" etc.

That's my best shot anyway; fan but no big expert.

The wheels are wrong as well for a 60's car.

lastsaturday

i'd be cautious with cars like these, as it's obviously been restored and modded up to look like a 964. looks pretty nice tho, and looks to be done rather well.
correct me if i'm wrong, but the porsche wheel base was extended in '69, so this makes the chassis real old, and the swb porsches were crap in the wet. so, if it's been extended out as a modification, i'd be concerned of the structural integrity.

in a nutshell, it's probably a 68 chassis, mid 80's engine and 964 bodykit. what was wrong with the '68, when it was original? they're worth much more than even a decent 964 nowadays...

if the guys had the car for 20 years and had done all the work himself, maybe it's ok, if he is suitably skilled. But if he bought it and is shifting it on, buyer beware.. there may be a valid reason.

carchaeologist

Can this be done legally?
Or is it too much of a gap in age?

911s

Many people have built a business updating 911 to look like newer models and more recently backdating to look like early models In Ireland this process is carried out using a piece of old brown cardboard with official stamps on it.
The car featured seems to have 80's 964 body kit, seller mentions 2.7l engine which is '74-76, says car is '68 model and has servo fitted to brakes ('78- ).
Buyer beware, but it may be a perfect car look good and drive well.

carchaeologist

911s wrote: »

In Ireland this process is carried out using a piece of old brown cardboard with official stamps on it...

Fair enough. But why be so silly as to try as sell it like that?

f4fay

carchaeologist wrote: »

Fair enough. But why be so silly as to try as sell it like that?

Did anybody phone the man selling the car about the history...or do you guys just make up your own aspersions regarding people and their Cars :mad:

f4fay

LIGHTNING wrote: »

What are you talking about? Its clearly not a 68 911.

Do YOU say it was'nt modified or is that a Presumption ?.....All i'm saying is that everytime someone puts a car up on Donedeal that is not the norm all the Experts on here have a go....there may be a lot of reasons that 911 looks as it is with that reg number....I've had a 911 cabrio of a particular year that was to young to be a cabrio but it was legit and had been converted at great expense in germany out of a targa and i also know of two other 911's that are late 70's early eighties that are on 87 D Plates and a Mk 1 golf gti original irish 1980 car also on an 87 D plate and i could probably fill you in on plenty more that are not the norm But totaly Legal in every way.... I have also seen over the years a lot of cars been made to look younger !!!!

f4fay

Have a Look Here.....www.autofarm.co.uk;)

carchaeologist

It's indicative of the amount of dodgy cars around that there is such suspicion when something like this turns up.

f4fay

LIGHTNING wrote: »

Well using your example of a Mk1 golf what it looks like in that advert is somebody has put classic plates on a mkIV GTI!

Its got the wrong,engine,wheels,seats,steering wheel,seats, lights, most the exterior for its year.

Yes The above list of parts are not from an early car but very easy changed but i woud'nt Agree with your golf theory....as you say yourself your more up to date on 924's !!!

galwaytt

LIGHTNING wrote: »

Its got the wrong,engine,wheels,seats,steering wheel,seats, lights, most the exterior for its year.

Wrong? Non standard, non original, maybe, but 'wrong' ?

You're forgetting that that era of Porsche has been through several phases of life, already: new, used, more used, done up, repaired,modified, rusted, touched up, resprayed, rebuilt, updated, uprated, backdated, restored.......the list goes on and on. And in each phase its value went one way, then another.......so it's value now is....?.....anyone's guess.

And there is an enormous market for 911 parts to make yours look, go, stop like whichever version of 911 you like. In the 80's early ones were made go look bespoilered. Now we're taking 89 - 94 cars and making them look like 1970's ones......google Paul Stephens Porsche 964 backdated and you'll see 1994 cars made to look like 1973 ones......for €70k......

Nope, the only, fair, way to know about this car....is to look at it. Anything else is hogwash.

5 minutes will tell you what you're really looking at.

Even your model, the 924 has been through the cycle......

MercMad

Alot of 911's get converted this way, apart from the wheelbase a '68 911 has its fuel filler in a different place to any of the later cars, however since this car wears a wider turbo body I suppose this and the tank could have been changed.

Basil Fawlty

I really cant believe that you can get away with accusing someone of ringing cars on this forum with absolutley no evidence. Its not the first time Ive seen this happen.

How is it that you cant post a bad word about a car dealer on Boards but its ok to pick out a random punter that has an unusual or modifed car and accuse them of doing something dodgy?? Most of the people on here havent a clue how to carry out these conversions yet they still seem to be able to throw around accusations.

On a side note there are many 911 conversions that have been done. I used to work for someone that had a 70s 911 converted to look like a 1986 turbo bodied 911. It was a common thing to do during the life of the 911 / 964 especially in the late 80s early 90s.

f4fay

ciarancapri wrote: »

I really cant believe that you can get away with accusing someone of ringing cars on this forum with absolutley no evidence. Its not the first time Ive seen this happen.

How is it that you cant post a bad word about a car dealer on Boards but its ok to pick out a random punter that has an unusual or modifed car and accuse them of doing something dodgy?? Most of the people on here havent a clue how to carry out these conversions yet they still seem to be able to throw around accusations.

On a side note there are many 911 conversions that have been done. I used to work for someone that had a 70s 911 converted to look like a 1986 turbo bodied 911. It was a common thing to do during the life of the 911 / 964 especially in the late 80s early 90s.

I Know This Car !!!