Joyeux Noel..

antiskeptic

..to all who would take Christ out of Xmas. In the hope that there will peace on earth for you all too at this time..

UDP

You mean replace christ with an x?

Fanny Cradock

Not quite. I think antiskeptic was being a little more subtle than you might realise.

Anyway, Happy Christmas to you all.

Sarky

Hey, I always wanted some condescending pity for Xmas! Yay!

There are too many awful carols in the background. Time for some Motorhead.

Newaglish

antiskeptic wrote: »

..to all who would take Christ out of Xmas. In the hope that there will peace on earth for you all too at this time..

Is it part of your religious virtues to be smug and insincere? I'm having a great non-religious family gathering thanks very much. Also I didn't think Christians had a monopoly on "peace on earth"

sephir0th

antiskeptic wrote: »

..to all who would take Christ out of Xmas. In the hope that there will peace on earth for you all too at this time..

Fanny Cradock

Newaglish wrote: »

Is it part of your religious virtues to be smug and insincere? I'm having a great non-religious family gathering thanks very much. Also I didn't think Christians had a monopoly on "peace on earth"

Who said anything about monopoly? Speaking of Monopoly my nephew got it for Christmas. I must say it's not the same as when I was a nipper. No cash, now you have credit cards.

Anyway, I read the post as expressing genuine well wishes to those who don't place the same significance on the celebration as perhaps a Christian might. I'm quite sure that you are having a marvellous non-religious holiday and more power to you for enjoying yourself, which was the point of the thread as far as I can see.

ShooterSF

Fanny Cradock wrote: »

Who said anything about monopoly? Speaking of Monopoly my nephew got it for Christmas. I must say it's not the same as when I was a nipper. No cash, now you have credit cards.

Monopoly was always a horribly flawed game. Too long, too luck driven and too often it's clear who is going to win for ages. Though I won't begrudge those that just want a game where everyone already knows the rules (I think we're born with them ingrained)...
This year I'm breaking out Cosmic Encounter, Lords of Vegas and Cash and Guns (a great party game) and then maybe some apples 2 apples. Will probably get a game of each in by the time we'd finish monopoly.
Sorry I know this has nothin to do with religion but given the time of year I figured it would be better to share some new (and maybe useful) information from a gaming enthusiast. Merry Everyone!

Fanny Cradock

Fanny Cradock wrote: »

Who said anything about monopoly? Speaking of Monopoly my nephew got it for Christmas. I must say it's not the same as when I was a nipper. No cash, now you have credit cards.

Anyway, I read the post as expressing genuine well wishes to those who don't place the same significance on the celebration as perhaps a Christian might. I'm quite sure that you are having a marvellous non-religious holiday and more power to you for enjoying yourself, which was the point of the thread as far as I can see.

it reads as condescending pity to me

in any case, merry xmas to all

J C

bluewolf wrote: »

in any case, merry xmas to all

... and a Happy Christmas to you and a happy New Year.

Sonics2k

Such a troll opening post. :pac:

robindch

antiskeptic wrote: »

..to all who would take Christ out of Xmas.

Just bringing back the real meaning of Saturnalia!

A merry midwinter festival to you and all!

sephir0th

Fanny Cradock wrote: »

No cash, now you have credit cards.

wait, monopoly without cash?





i love monopoly but nobody will ever play because it goes on too long
i might persuade some people into scrabble

Nollog

Jesus was born today so he could die for your right to not believe in him.

J C

robindch wrote: »

Just bringing back the real meaning of Saturnalia!

A merry midwinter festival to you and all!

Christmas was the eclipsing of the winter solstice festivities by the celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ.

... so you can celebrate short cold wintery days ... if that floats your boat ...
... or you could celebrate the awesome fact that God so loved each one of us that He humbled Himself to become Man to Save us.

... the choice is up to you.

PS Jesus loves you ... and 'Saturnalia' doesn't care about you!!!!:)

J C

/\/ollog wrote: »

Jesus was born today so he could die for your right to not believe in him.

He did that too!!!:)

HUNK

Batman > Jesus.

Nollog

bluewolf wrote: »

wait, monopoly without cash?

i love monopoly but nobody will ever play because it goes on too long
i might persuade some people into scrabble

Yeah, it's terrible with the electronic crap.
It completely ruined it for me anyway.

robindch

/\/ollog wrote: »

Jesus was born today so he could die for your right to not believe in him.

Couldn't have expressed the central nuttiness of christianity better than that myself

HUNK

HUNK wrote: »

Batman > Jesus.

...but no, like srsly

Sonics2k

/\/ollog wrote: »

Yeah, it's terrible with the electronic crap.
It completely ruined it for me anyway.

Ugh it's terrible.

Picked it up years ago, thinking it would be the same.

Monopoly is just not worth it without the paper money!

Sarky

Even the most zealous fundie fears the Batman.

yawha

/\/ollog wrote: »

Jesus was born today so he could die for your right to not believe in him.

And be tortured for eternity in hell as a result of exercising that right!

Galwayguy35

robindch wrote: »

Couldn't have expressed the central nuttiness of christianity better than that myself

No worse than a life spend believing in nothing....

CiaranMT

yawha wrote: »

And be tortured for eternity in hell as a result of exercising that right!

Maybe some of us like to be slapped around a bit...

Logical Fallacy

antiskeptic wrote: »

..to all who would take Christ out of Xmas. In the hope that there will peace on earth for you all too at this time..

Things there are none of :

Christ in Xmas.

Things there are :

An i in Wii.

Fanny Cradock

bluewolf wrote: »

wait, monopoly without cash?

It gets worse. Chance and Community Chest (I think they have different names) now only exist in digital form. A little electronic unit now sits in the centre of the board waiting for input. Not only does it replace all the cards and money, it also plays music for your entertainment. For example, every time you pass go the little speaker struggles to maintain integrity as it blasts out about 5 seconds of Celebrate! by Kool and the Gang or something like that. It begins to grate very quickly.

I dunno, I was always more of an Escape From Colditz type of guy. Actually, it was spectacularly lame.

Sarky

I am amazed that people don't realise the arguments, frustration and yes, occasinally outright bloodshed that Monopoly causes at Christmas.

Next year try Arkham horror, nothing like a bit of squamous eldritch doom for Chrimbo.

Dades

Well, whatever about the actual meaning of the OP (I wish I agreed with Fanny), have a great day and night everyone.

Christians, they're always trying to take the life out of Wookie Life Day...

Sarky

The secret of peace on earth is everyone drinking what I'm drinking. I couldn't be violent right now if I tried. Holy shee-it. Or is it shi'ite? Or Holy See-ite?

strobe

antiskeptic wrote: »

..to all who would take Christ out of Xmas. In the hope that there will be peace on earth for you all too at this time..

Ahh Skep, right back at you man. Happy Jesus' birthday. You know I have started categorising things. It's a huge amount of fun, to categorise things. Near as I can figure you can put Christians that post here in 6 categories.

These are the categories.

1. The Cunts. : These guys rock up and have no interest whatsoever in spreading the word of Jezuz or saving our souls. They just want to pick a fight, they know who they are and if pressed probably care more about the fact that people disagree with them than they care about those people 'forging a personal relationship with Jesus'. Their faith is shaky.

2. The Mentals. These lads and lasies really fucking believe there is a wizardesk monster that loves you and is just waiting for you to slip up so he can burn you with matches.

3. The Friendlies. These individuals believe with all their heart and soul that unless you are rocking out for Jesus then you must not be happy. (I kind of feel bad for these guys. They always seem like they had extremely unhappy teenagehoods. I hope that is not the case.)

4. The Ideologues. Even if these poor unfortunate people were to discover absolutely that Christianity was not true they would continue to argue that it was true. Their motivation? At one time I would have said it was the whole 'noble lie' thing. Now? I think it's more along the lines of "I chose to be on the red team. **** the blue team!".

5 and 6 also have dealies but I have actually somehow managed to bore myself mid-post, so I'll stop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPR5mnSsWVs

Galvasean

Drunk Strobe is drunk....

Gordon

HUNK wrote: »

Batman > Jesus.

Santa > Jesus

Sarky

Well that's all fine and dandy Gordon, but is Santa > Batman?

I think not, despite what Google says.

Fanny Cradock

strobe wrote: »

5 and 6 also have dealies but I have actually somehow managed to bore myself mid-post, so I'll stop.

Probably for the best.

smokingman

antiskeptic wrote: »

..to all who would take Christ out of Xmas. In the hope that there will peace on earth for you all too at this time..

Well, to return the sentiment...

Jesus was born yesterday? Ha, ha, do you think we were?
Poor pitiful little christians with your quaint little belief in magic and false promises...I wouln't normally wish ill on someone during my holiday time but for you lot I'll make an exception.....I hope your faith never wavers.

Fanny Cradock

smokingman wrote: »

Well, to return the sentiment...

Jesus was born yesterday? Ha, ha, do you think we were?
Poor pitiful little christians with your quaint little belief in magic and false promises...I wouln't normally wish ill on someone during my holiday time but for you lot I'll make an exception.....I hope your faith never wavers.

We celebrate the birth of Jesus on the 25th. That is different than stating he was born on the 25th of December.

I can't imagine what sentiment is behind the rest of your post but it seems cruel. Peace on earth and good will to all men it is not.

smokingman

Fanny Cradock wrote: »

Peace on earth and good will to all men it is not.

If the op was sincere in that wish then maybe I would have held back on my pity.....but I seriously don't think there was an ounce of it so my pity has been amplified by contempt.

Hope the rest of you enjoy your Harry Potter like superstitions though

recedite

I like to keep using use the word "Christmas" for the midwinter Santa festival.
Eventually when it has lost all of its religious meaning, the few cranks left who try claim it as a religious holy day (holiday) will say ruefully "that used to be our word"

Galwayguy35

recedite wrote: »

I like to keep using use the word "Christmas" for the midwinter Santa festival.
Eventually when it has lost all of its religious meaning, the few cranks left who try claim it as a religious holy day (holiday) will say ruefully "that used to be our word"

I imagine we will be all long gone before that happens so don't get your hopes up.

recedite

Doesn't matter. Some dead guy probably said the same about Thor's day, but he was right in the end.

Fanny Cradock

smokingman wrote: »

If the op was sincere in that wish then maybe I would have held back on my pity.....but I seriously don't think there was an ounce of it so my pity has been amplified by contempt.

Hope the rest of you enjoy your Harry Potter like superstitions though

Well, thanks for your pity. But I suggest you keep it for those who need it more.

On a side note, I would have thought that pity is related to love in the same way that contempt is related to hate.

Sarky

Aren't Christians always asking God to have pity on them?

Fanny Cradock

Sarky wrote: »

Aren't Christians always asking God to have pity on them?

The hivemind network is down for essential maintenance at the moment so I don't know what they are asking. But it is certainly possible that Christians are asking for pity right now.

smokingman

Fanny Cradock wrote: »

On a side note, I would have thought that pity is related to love in the same way that contempt is related to hate.

I have nothing but love for my fellow homo sapiens, this is why my pity exists....you could be so much more and not waste your lives chasing ghosts.
The contempt, you could say, is a result of the fine line between love and hate.

Fanny Cradock

smokingman wrote: »

I have nothing but love for my fellow homo sapiens, this is why my pity exists....you could be so much more and not waste your lives chasing ghosts.
The contempt, you could say, is a result of the fine line between love and hate.

Tough love, eh?

Well, quite aside from the fact that I don't chase ghosts, I beg to differ that I am wasting my life. You would have to know me first to make such an assertion. "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio smokingman, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."

But thanks for your concern.

robindch

^^^ A bit of chill there, folks, on all sides, please.

Having read antiskeptic's OP with an open heart, I find that he was referring to this film:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joyeux_No%C3%ABl

Peace, dudes + dudesses