New photo album about Galway people, but so expensive 45 e!

pepe00

Have you seen that book?
is nice, and has some great photos of around 100 " famous" Galway people, but is it only me thinking 45 euro for photo album is way too much?

biko

I haven't seen it, but suppose if you wait a while it'll drop in price.

pepe00

on the cover of that book you will find the american guy who cooks "russian" dougnats on saturday market :P

Mrs OBumble

Demand and supply, I guess.

Price it too cheap, and every scruff will have one.

inisboffin

JustMary wrote: »

Price it too cheap, and every scruff will have one.

LOL!

Every scruff probably got a free one because they are *in* it! :P

Joking. Those coffee table type books are spendy to print. Looks great though.

Robbo

It is an excellent book though.

siltirocker

For a glossy photography book that size e45 is actually pretty average.

NuckyT

That book is null and void unless Knacker Dwarf is in it!

dinneenp

It is expensive imho but the guy who made it (Reg Gordon) has pit a lot of time and effort into it afaiknow. It's not a 'throw a few photos together' job.

pepe00

i like some photographs, the places where people are pictures are well choosen.

but there is almost nothing except photos. each person is described in just a few words. dont think that is a lot of job:P

Robbo

pepe00 wrote: »

i like some photographs, the places where people are pictures are well choosen.

but there is almost nothing except photos. each person is described in just a few words. dont think that is a lot of job:P

Well isn't a picture worth a thousand words, so if we're to take wordcount as the true measurement of worth, you've got fantastic value for money.

dinneenp

Here's his blog, he talks a bit about the making of the book and fundraising
http://reggordonphoto.wordpress.com/

dilallio

Robbo wrote: »

Well isn't a picture worth a thousand words, so if we're to take wordcount as the true measurement of worth, you've got fantastic value for money.

+1

A lot of other people also agree - I was asking about the book in 2 book shops in town. One has sold 600 copies before the weekend, while the other sold 180.

einshteen

Quite miffed at the price, especially since I threw the fella 20 quid on FundIt.

Fuinseog

pepe00 wrote: »

Have you seen that book?
is nice, and has some great photos of around 100 " famous" Galway people, but is it only me thinking 45 euro for photo album is way too much?

sounds expensive, but its a photo album and a book of photos, especially colour is expensive. it depends on the publisher. its unlikely that it was brought out by a publishing giant with a run of a few million copies, but more likely to be self published with only few hundred copies. if this is the case it will go from sold out to rare book.

pepe00

Fuinseog wrote: »

sounds expensive, but its a photo album and a book of photos, especially colour is expensive. it depends on the publisher. its unlikely that it was brought out by a publishing giant with a run of a few million copies, but more likely to be self published with only few hundred copies. if this is the case it will go from sold out to rare book.

i am sure that is the main reason of the price, but not as little as few hundreds copies come on

Fuinseog

pepe00 wrote: »

i am sure that is the main reason of the price, but not as little as few hundreds copies come on

I have not yet seen the book and another poster claims that hundreds of copies have already been sold.
you can fork out nearly two grand to a vanity publisher and only receive forty copies of your book.

beardybrewer

Fuinseog wrote: »

sounds expensive, but its a photo album and a book of photos, especially colour is expensive. it depends on the publisher.

That's probably the problem, he probably went thru an Irish publisher who ripped him off and the rip-off ireland price just got passed on to us, as usual. He should have got it printed in China.

jmauel

pepe00 wrote: »

on the cover of that book you will find the american guy who cooks "russian" dougnats on saturday market :P

Why do you think they are russian donuts??

pepe00

jmauel wrote: »

Why do you think they are russian donuts??

I said "russian" not russian:P

and i said that becouse he has russian letters on his stall, and he looks russian by the way:) maybe he has russian grandgrad parents?

inisboffin

pepe00 wrote: »

jmauel wrote: »

Why do you think they are russian donuts??

I said "russian" not russian:P

and i said that becouse he has russian letters on his stall, and he looks russian by the way:) maybe he has russian grandgrad parents?

'Boychik' is NY/Jewish term of endearment for favourite 'son' or 'young lad'. Plenty with Russian heritage in that community, plenty with none. Why not buy a doughnut and ask him

jmauel

pepe00 wrote: »

I said "russian" not russian:P

and i said that becouse he has russian letters on his stall, and he looks russian by the way:) maybe he has russian grandgrad parents?

Well Boychik is a Yiddish term, and Dan is jewish

McTigs

pepe00 wrote: »

on the cover of that book you will find the american guy who cooks "russian" dougnats on saturday market :P

and most of the portraits are of people who aren't from galway let alone irish.... but that's not the point. it's a portrait of galway not irishness.

i think it's a fantastic snapshot (pun intended) of the town that doesn't involve pictures of long walk or the cathederal

we got one for ourselves and we got copy for my wifes folks who are from oregon and visiting for christmas.

Fuinseog

McTigs wrote: »

and most of the portraits are of people who aren't from galway let alone irish.... but that's not the point. it's a portrait of galway not irishness.

i think it's a fantastic snapshot (pun intended) of the town that doesn't involve pictures of long walk or the cathederal

we got one for ourselves and we got copy for my wifes folks who are from oregon and visiting for christmas.

galway has always been a place of great come and go. a lot of the folks in the book probably will be elsewhere in five years.

inisboffin

Fuinseog wrote: »

McTigs wrote: »

and most of the portraits are of people who aren't from galway let alone irish.... but that's not the point. it's a portrait of galway not irishness.

i think it's a fantastic snapshot (pun intended) of the town that doesn't involve pictures of long walk or the cathederal

we got one for ourselves and we got copy for my wifes folks who are from oregon and visiting for christmas.

galway has always been a place of great come and go. a lot of the folks in the book probably will be elsewhere in five years.

An awful lot of them (natives and non Galwegians) have already been here way longer than 5 years!

Mollie Breathna

newkie wrote: »

That's probably the problem, he probably went thru an Irish publisher who ripped him off and the rip-off ireland price just got passed on to us, as usual. He should have got it printed in China.

You've really got to love some boardsies - "probably", "as usual", "He should have" - completely idle and snarky speculation ("as usual").

If someone bothered to even look at the book in any of the shops - never mind actually asking the photographer/publisher himself - you'd know that money was raised through "FundIt" to cover costs for both the book's production and concurrent exhibition. The book was self-published and was printed in Galway by Castle Print in Liosbaun.
A limited-run ( i.e. a few thousand at most), hardback, full colour book is going to be expensive to publish and print thus the price.

galwaybabe

I bought this book for a relative who has recently moved from Galway to the UK. I had a great few days going around Galway tracking down the people in the photos and getting them to sign their photos. I met so many people I would never have met and had some great chats. I think that this book is a very fair representation of the Galway of now, with all it's incomers, locals and transients that make up the character of this city at this moment in time.
With regards to the price, as far as I know it was a very limited print - hence price per unit would be quite high. Also the photographer was adamant that he wanted to use local companies so this would have added to the costs also.

My relative loved the book by the way!

TheCosmicFrog

Won a copy of this in a raffle recently. Couldn't believe the price of it when I saw it in Eason's though. It's a nice book and something nice to put on the coffee table, but not something I would have bought.

fishy fishy

there was an exhibition of the photos on Dominick Street and they were selling the book - if you had thought to buy it there it would have been a fiver cheaper. Nice book - not strictly galwegians, but a nice "moment" of characters from or who reside in Galway. The book is called Tribes.

Interceptor

Pfft, blow-ins...

'cptr

muppetkiller

TheCosmicFrog wrote: »

Won a copy of this in a raffle recently. Couldn't believe the price of it when I saw it in Eason's though. It's a nice book and something nice to put on the coffee table, but not something I would have bought.

You at the credit union AGM too lol

eveya

pepe00 wrote: »

Have you seen that book?
is nice, and has some great photos of around 100 " famous" Galway people, but is it only me thinking 45 euro for photo album is way too much?

No way I'd pay 45 euro for a book like that, lovely idea but 25 - 30 euro is ample If the proceeds are going to charity then fair enough, otherwise it's a rip off.:eek:

eveya

Fuinseog wrote: »

galway has always been a place of great come and go. a lot of the folks in the book probably will be elsewhere in five years.

Good point, I can't imagine many Galwegians buying it to be honest.

Proxy

I was going to buy it, but not at that price. He's priced himself out there, as aforementioned he should have gotten it printed abroad for cheaper.

dinneenp

Proxy wrote: »

I was going to buy it, but not at that price. He's priced himself out there, as aforementioned he should have gotten it printed abroad for cheaper.

Obvioulsy he hasn't if it's sold 'a lot' already. He has priced some people out but I guess he's researched the price. Maybe it's a strategic price- make it high and the book seems more special?

When I publish my Galway photo book I should get it printed abroad and sell it for €20? And there'll obvioulsy be a moan about taking business aborad....

ciotog

dinneenp wrote: »

Obvioulsy he hasn't if it's sold 'a lot' already. He has priced some people out but I guess he's researched the price. Maybe it's a strategic price- make it high and the book seems more special?

When I publish my Galway photo book I should get it printed abroad and sell it for €20? And there'll obvioulsy be a moan about taking business aborad....

You can call the book: "The Price of Everything, The Value of Nothing".
Also, only include properly verified Galwegians and it'll clearly be a roaring success.

kc66

From the photographer's blog:

The next part is to raise funding so I can get the book out before Christmas without going too far into debt. Its going to cost me a lot of money. €15000 to be exact.

SOOOOO.

If you have enjoyed coming here reading about Galway, if you know someone in the project, if you want to show that community support is still alive please pledge some money. You will get something back in return, from a postcard to a print to a book.

You have to log in but it takes a second,

Yesterday over 600 people visited this blog

If each of them gave € 10 I would have raised enough..

http://www.fundit.ie/project/tribe-a-portrait-of-galway

I have sweated bullets over this, I spent my entire 40th working on this. I have neglected my family and my business for this.

For the record nothing like this has been tried before.

Cope Galway have offered to help sell it when it comes out. Dubray and Charlie Byrnes will be stocking it. Padraic Disconaut will be DJing at the launch. It will be great when it happens

A section of ther profits will go towards building a famine memorial to comemorate those who had to leave in worse times than these.

If you cant help plese retweet and share so hopefully we can find someone who can

Thanks to the supporters so far

Proxy

I have neglected my family and my business for this.

Well bully for you, buddy. I do hope you get that monkey off your back someday.

siltirocker

The negativity in here is disgusting.

inisboffin

I think it is a good book with some great photographs. The subjects are interesting and their genetic connection to the 12 tribes is neither here or there for me.

"I have sweated bullets over this, I spent my entire 40th working on this. I have neglected my family and my business for this.

For the record nothing like this has been tried before."

This to me is a bit disappointing though. I think this reads quite negatively as a statement. It was the artist's choice to do this project, not the public that funding is being requested of. Many artists in many artforms make sacrifices for their projects, that is not necessarily a reason to fund it. It is a good book, but IMO this could have been worded much better (not as a blog post per se, but as a request for funding).

TheCosmicFrog

muppetkiller wrote: »

You at the credit union AGM too lol

I just wanted a hamper :P